Logitech MX1000 Review

**MIG-31** · Jan 11, 2005, 06:56 AM

We take a close look at the Logitech MX1000 laser mouse. Is this the end of the optical mice era? Does the MX1000 perform as good as it looks? Why not meander in to find out? Are you tired of all the questions?

We will go over its features, technology, gaming performance, tests on different surfaces and bundled software. After all, haven't we had enough of those red glow of today's optical mice? Optical mice are so late 90's.
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Review: firingsquad

TJ- · Jan 11, 2005, 07:01 AM

awesome mouse...i tried it at the store in HL2.... $150 aust.... not for that much...

blown503 · Jan 11, 2005, 07:19 AM

I have one but sometimes it like locks up or looses its signal or something. It comes back after pushing the reset button on the bottom a few times.

FluffyChicken · Jan 11, 2005, 10:03 AM

End of the Optical Mouse era....

Well err a LASER mouse is an Optical mouse, it's just a different method of creating the light.

gadabout · Jan 11, 2005, 10:32 AM

My GF just got a MX1000 a few days ago for her computer. The mouse rocks. Fits nice in the hand, really fast and just good to look at lol. I have the the old MX700, which is showing it's age. Where my palm rest, that area is worn out, and the click buttons are like that too. But hell it still works great.

popdog · Jan 11, 2005, 11:43 AM

Replaced my MX700 with an MX1000, a worthy upgrade i would say. Noticably smoother and the buttons are in much more sensible positions

Logla · Jan 11, 2005, 12:31 PM

I got one last month. Quality Mouse.
One little thing that has been winding me up was that every now and then the cursor would jump about an inch straight up the screen. I put this down to my aging game pad and plumped for an icemat to go with it. This is where the MX1000 really comes into its own. Absolutley superb.
Only the problem with the cursor is still there but doesn't happen as often. I think its down the the base unit being too close to my pc but I cant get it any further away because the length of the usb cable isnt that great. Really annoying when your lining up the perfect headshot.

TJ- · Jan 11, 2005, 12:45 PM

you cant expect perfection. but for a mouse that cost as much as the mx1000 does, you do expect perfection!

bananaman · Jan 11, 2005, 12:56 PM

I love my MX1000

Have it on a funcpad and is so smooth

upgraded from my mx700 and is worth the upgrade!

still cant hit shit, but now i cant blame the mouse

NANA

Chubby_C · Jan 11, 2005, 04:51 PM

Got one for Christmas, incredible mouse, using it with my new Icemat 2nd, that is an unbeatable combination.
Was able to use it steady for over a week before the power indicator dropped 1 bar.

Also the additional buttons become addictive, keep trying to hit them when using another mouse on another computer.

NeoTribal · Jan 11, 2005, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logla

I got one last month. Quality Mouse.
One little thing that has been winding me up was that every now and then the cursor would jump about an inch straight up the screen. I put this down to my aging game pad and plumped for an icemat to go with it. This is where the MX1000 really comes into its own. Absolutley superb.
Only the problem with the cursor is still there but doesn't happen as often. I think its down the the base unit being too close to my pc but I cant get it any further away because the length of the usb cable isnt that great. Really annoying when your lining up the perfect headshot.

You can purchase a usb extention cord for very cheap... it should fix that issue!

mkk · Jan 11, 2005, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logla

Only the problem with the cursor is still there but doesn't happen as often. I think its down the the base unit being too close to my pc but I cant get it any further away because the length of the usb cable isnt that great. Really annoying when your lining up the perfect headshot.

Placement doesn't seem too important in my case, as I have had my base unit right by both a speaker and a monitor without noticing a difference. Cursor jumping issues with optical mice is usually related to the optics/surface too, so check carefully for some speck of dust on the 'camera'. A dampened cuetip might be good to clean that area I guess.

For a pad I now use a black thin plastic 3$ pad sold under the name "Opti Love"

and it's working great. Could be a little bigger but then the MX-1000 is so precise and responsive that I need less surface than with previous mice.

Distroyed · Jan 11, 2005, 10:36 PM

Pick up lag is a real problem that will make every serious first person shooter fan regret having purchased this mouse.

bananaman · Jan 12, 2005, 08:41 AM

i have this mouse and dont get any lag at all!

mkk · Jan 12, 2005, 11:50 AM

Unless there is a variance between individual mice, I would guess that perhaps what quite a few gamers indicate as 'pickup lag' is to some extent an effect of the mouse ball not being there. With a balled mouse one can make large swipes and have the ball continue to rotate a bit while lifted, an effect that is naturally non existant on opticals. Even with an optical that has a longer range of the beam than the MX1000 it takes a while getting used to the optics engine after having used a ball mouse before.

This is the first optical for my own system, having been addicted to three-button mice and deterred by lesser batteries of previous opticals. So it did take some time to get really comfortable in shooter games and I know from experience that hardcore online gamers might not have the time or patience. In the past I've even seen clans taking a scheduled time off competitive play with the message "we're trying out new mice".

bananaman · Jan 12, 2005, 11:53 AM

maybe this is the reason. I have used opticals for years now so am probably so used to them as to not notice the "lag" that others are finding.

good thinking mkk

wertret · Jan 12, 2005, 11:59 AM

I also upgraded from mx700 and now i'm very happy with the mx1000, just the best mouse in the world atm

Distroyed · Jan 12, 2005, 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=mkk]Unless there is a variance between individual mice, I would guess that perhaps what quite a few gamers indicate as 'pickup lag' is to some extent an effect of the mouse ball not being there. With a balled mouse one can make large swipes and have the ball continue to rotate a bit while lifted, an effect that is naturally non existant on opticals. Even with an optical that has a longer range of the beam than the MX1000 it takes a while getting used to the optics engine after having used a ball mouse before.
/QUOTE]

Fraid not. I've had an MX700 for 2 years before my MX1000. The former does not have the aforementioned lag whatsoever.

Logla · Jan 12, 2005, 10:59 PM

can I just mention in case there has been some confusion, that I have no lag of any sort. What I was describing was the mouse suddenly jumping about 100pixels straight upwards. I've never experienced this with optical mice before and I've been using them since M$ brought the first optical mouse to the market.

Zardon · Jan 12, 2005, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Distroyed

Pick up lag is a real problem that will make every serious first person shooter fan regret having purchased this mouse.

i think we have been over this before, but remind me, why do you lift the mouse up when gaming? or by "pick up" do you mean inital movement..... I know if im gaming it stays on my icemat the whole time. Im not sure about "serious" gamers but i play quite a few myself and after trying about 40 mice in the last year the Mx1000 is the best ive used.

bananaman · Jan 12, 2005, 11:05 PM

i dont understand the reports of lagging or jumping either. I have niether of these and i can say this is the best mouse i have ever used!

NANA

No_Style · Jan 12, 2005, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

i think we have been over this before, but remind me, why do you lift the mouse up when gaming?

It's a method of spinning faster for some people dating back to mouseball gaming where you flick your wrist with the mouse in your hand really fast to the right and it makes you do a quick 180 degree turn and then you can put the mouse down in the middle pad/surface again. This is becoming less common, but still quite effective.

Some people don't have their sensitivity very high. To do a full 180 degree turn it requires the person to move from point A to point B on the desk left, pick up mouse and bring it back to point A and then move it to point B again.

You can really tell who does these and who doesn't in games when you notice a person taking about 2 seconds to do a simple 180 degree turn.

Logla · Jan 12, 2005, 11:43 PM

so thats how they do it - sneaky b@st@rds

Necrosis · Jan 12, 2005, 11:49 PM

I picked one of these up Friday. W/ dipstick's help I was able to sort out the button issue. Over all very happy with my purchase, and mine is graphite black? I'm using the Icemat II /w it as well.

Graphic = Graphite Doh

Sargentwhitey · Jan 13, 2005, 02:10 AM

I've got one and I'm in love <3... that and my nice Blue Icemat2 go very very well

Distroyed · Jan 13, 2005, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

i think we have been over this before, but remind me, why do you lift the mouse up when gaming?

No Style is on the ball. For fast paced games (not your cheesy war strategy fps's) there's no way you can keep the mouse on the pad with all the movement you have to do to win in such a game. A mousepad and my arm are only so long, and to do 180's and then center in for the kill, I have to get the mouse back in my comfort or perfect aim zone, and to do that without turning around again, I pick up the mouse. And I get killed as a result of this mouse's lag when the action is intense and I dont have 500ms to spare.

Logitech is very much aware of this problem; you guys who dont detect it dont play your games at fast speeds is all.

SilenX · Jan 14, 2005, 04:52 PM

Truely is i don'tlike mx1000. I use my 510 all the time and feel pretty cool about it. Cordles is cool, but i don't need it. As for gliding, i don't think it's glides better than mine with Steelpad4D. And battery charging... I don't like it.

Logla · Jan 16, 2005, 09:14 AM

Nothing wrong with battery charging in this thing. It seems to last a week before it needs charging. All you do is cradle it when you go to bed and thats it.

Looks like my mouse needs to be returned to Logitech. There are know problems with certain revisions of the mouse and base unit - which I have - and this is the problem with the cursor jumping. As for the other problems mentioned here, it doesn't look as if they are going to do anything about it so the hardcore FPS gamers may be dissapointed.

Jan 11, 2005, 06:56 AM	#1
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Jan 11, 2005, 07:01 AM	#2
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	awesome mouse...i tried it at the store in HL2.... $150 aust.... not for that much... __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 11, 2005, 07:19 AM	#3
blown503 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S. Indiana Posts: 573 Rep Power: 0	I have one but sometimes it like locks up or looses its signal or something. It comes back after pushing the reset button on the bottom a few times. __________________

Jan 11, 2005, 10:03 AM	#4
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Jan 11, 2005, 10:32 AM	#5
gadabout Im Zaphod Beeblebrox Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My GF just got a MX1000 a few days ago for her computer. The mouse rocks. Fits nice in the hand, really fast and just good to look at lol. I have the the old MX700, which is showing it's age. Where my palm rest, that area is worn out, and the click buttons are like that too. But hell it still works great. __________________ AMD64 X2 3800+ 2GB DDR400 Dual Channel 250GB SATA Seagate \| 500GB SATA WD (WAS an external HD unit, until closure failed) DVD+/-RW Dual Layer w/ Lightscribe \| Plextor DVD+/-RW Dual Layer ATI MSI RX3870 OC Edition PCI-E 2.0 Windows 7 64bit Last edited by gadabout; Jan 11, 2005 at 10:33 AM. Reason: umm...yeah...I can type......

Jan 11, 2005, 11:43 AM	#6
popdog DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Replaced my MX700 with an MX1000, a worthy upgrade i would say. Noticably smoother and the buttons are in much more sensible positions

Jan 11, 2005, 12:31 PM	#7
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I got one last month. Quality Mouse. One little thing that has been winding me up was that every now and then the cursor would jump about an inch straight up the screen. I put this down to my aging game pad and plumped for an icemat to go with it. This is where the MX1000 really comes into its own. Absolutley superb. Only the problem with the cursor is still there but doesn't happen as often. I think its down the the base unit being too close to my pc but I cant get it any further away because the length of the usb cable isnt that great. Really annoying when your lining up the perfect headshot.

Jan 11, 2005, 12:45 PM	#8
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	you cant expect perfection. but for a mouse that cost as much as the mx1000 does, you do expect perfection! __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 11, 2005, 12:56 PM	#9
bananaman banana muncher Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,254 Rep Power: 64	I love my MX1000 Have it on a funcpad and is so smooth upgraded from my mx700 and is worth the upgrade! still cant hit shit, but now i cant blame the mouse NANA __________________

Jan 11, 2005, 04:51 PM	#10
Chubby_C Working away at ATI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Got one for Christmas, incredible mouse, using it with my new Icemat 2nd, that is an unbeatable combination. Was able to use it steady for over a week before the power indicator dropped 1 bar. Also the additional buttons become addictive, keep trying to hit them when using another mouse on another computer.

Jan 11, 2005, 10:36 PM	#13
Distroyed DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 0	Pick up lag is a real problem that will make every serious first person shooter fan regret having purchased this mouse.

Jan 12, 2005, 08:41 AM	#14
bananaman banana muncher Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,254 Rep Power: 64	i have this mouse and dont get any lag at all! __________________

Jan 12, 2005, 11:50 AM	#15
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Unless there is a variance between individual mice, I would guess that perhaps what quite a few gamers indicate as 'pickup lag' is to some extent an effect of the mouse ball not being there. With a balled mouse one can make large swipes and have the ball continue to rotate a bit while lifted, an effect that is naturally non existant on opticals. Even with an optical that has a longer range of the beam than the MX1000 it takes a while getting used to the optics engine after having used a ball mouse before. This is the first optical for my own system, having been addicted to three-button mice and deterred by lesser batteries of previous opticals. So it did take some time to get really comfortable in shooter games and I know from experience that hardcore online gamers might not have the time or patience. In the past I've even seen clans taking a scheduled time off competitive play with the message "we're trying out new mice".

Jan 12, 2005, 11:53 AM	#16
bananaman banana muncher Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,254 Rep Power: 64	maybe this is the reason. I have used opticals for years now so am probably so used to them as to not notice the "lag" that others are finding. good thinking mkk __________________

Jan 12, 2005, 11:59 AM	#17
wertret Still watching... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orihuela (Spain) Posts: 1,560 Rep Power: 0	I also upgraded from mx700 and now i'm very happy with the mx1000, just the best mouse in the world atm __________________ "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night."

Jan 12, 2005, 09:29 PM	#18
Distroyed DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE=mkk]Unless there is a variance between individual mice, I would guess that perhaps what quite a few gamers indicate as 'pickup lag' is to some extent an effect of the mouse ball not being there. With a balled mouse one can make large swipes and have the ball continue to rotate a bit while lifted, an effect that is naturally non existant on opticals. Even with an optical that has a longer range of the beam than the MX1000 it takes a while getting used to the optics engine after having used a ball mouse before. /QUOTE] Fraid not. I've had an MX700 for 2 years before my MX1000. The former does not have the aforementioned lag whatsoever.

Jan 12, 2005, 10:59 PM	#19
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	can I just mention in case there has been some confusion, that I have no lag of any sort. What I was describing was the mouse suddenly jumping about 100pixels straight upwards. I've never experienced this with optical mice before and I've been using them since M$ brought the first optical mouse to the market.

Jan 12, 2005, 11:05 PM	#21
bananaman banana muncher Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,254 Rep Power: 64	i dont understand the reports of lagging or jumping either. I have niether of these and i can say this is the best mouse i have ever used! NANA __________________

Jan 12, 2005, 11:43 PM	#23
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	so thats how they do it - sneaky b@st@rds

Jan 12, 2005, 11:49 PM	#24
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I picked one of these up Friday. W/ dipstick's help I was able to sort out the button issue. Over all very happy with my purchase, and mine is graphite black? I'm using the Icemat II /w it as well. Graphic = Graphite Doh Last edited by Necrosis; Jan 13, 2005 at 02:34 AM.

Jan 13, 2005, 02:10 AM	#25
Sargentwhitey Has a JOB.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 0	I've got one and I'm in love <3... that and my nice Blue Icemat2 go very very well __________________ Mobile:Intel Celeron M 1.5GHz, 40GB WD, 1GB PC24000, Intel Mediocre Graphics 2, SB Audigy 2 Notebook

Jan 14, 2005, 04:52 PM	#27
SilenX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Truely is i don'tlike mx1000. I use my 510 all the time and feel pretty cool about it. Cordles is cool, but i don't need it. As for gliding, i don't think it's glides better than mine with Steelpad4D. And battery charging... I don't like it.

Jan 16, 2005, 09:14 AM	#28
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	Nothing wrong with battery charging in this thing. It seems to last a week before it needs charging. All you do is cradle it when you go to bed and thats it. Looks like my mouse needs to be returned to Logitech. There are know problems with certain revisions of the mouse and base unit - which I have - and this is the problem with the cursor jumping. As for the other problems mentioned here, it doesn't look as if they are going to do anything about it so the hardcore FPS gamers may be dissapointed.