Nvidia first â€” and perhaps only â€” user of DDR II until 2004

~~David~~ · Nov 17, 2002, 11:28 PM

SAN JOSE, Calif. â€” Nvidia Corp. will become the first mainstream user of DDR II memory when it announces its NV30 PC graphics processor at Comdex Monday (Nov. 18). However, Intel Corp. is not expected to support the memory type for broader use in PC main memory until 2004.

"There's kind of a gap. That's why we are coming out with 400-MHz DDR-I," said Tom Quinn, vice president of marketing for Samsung Semiconductor Inc., which has DDR II parts available today.

Samsung believes the fast DDR-I parts will fill a hole between 333-MHz DDR-I that is moving into mainstream desktop PCs today and the expected shift to DDR-II.

Read the full story HERE

Didnt ATI show a DDR-II R9700 on Techtv not to long ago?

franguinho · Nov 17, 2002, 11:45 PM

as far as i remember ATI's wasnt DDRII per se and their own variation for graphic cards...

Candyman · Nov 18, 2002, 12:03 AM

From what I know about the whole ATI and DDR II saga is that it was DDR-II memory configured as DDR-I speeds. Therefore it wasn't optimized as DDR-II.

digitalwanderer · Nov 18, 2002, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Candyman
From what I know about the whole ATI and DDR II saga is that it was DDR-II memory configured as DDR-I speeds. Therefore it wasn't optimized as DDR-II.

Wouldn't that sort of be like a computer manufacturer building a PC and bragging about how they're running PC150 in it, but only running the FSB on the system at 100Mhz 'cause that's all the CPU could handle? Or am I way off base in my comparison?

reno · Nov 18, 2002, 12:48 AM

They ran DDRII on a chipset optimized for the bus of DDRI, DDRII is not compatible in memory management and write/read cycles, so the DDRII basically was glorified DDRI that was really expensive...and a marketing ploy.

digitalwanderer · Nov 18, 2002, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by reno
They ran DDRII on a chipset optimized for the bus of DDRI, DDRII is not compatible in memory management and write/read cycles, so the DDRII basically was glorified DDRI that was really expensive...and a marketing ploy.

A simple "yes" would have sufficed.

reno · Nov 18, 2002, 03:35 AM

No...

er...crap, now I've confused myself! Thanks a lot dig! hehe

digitalwanderer · Nov 18, 2002, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reno
No...

er...crap, now I've confused myself! Thanks a lot dig! hehe

Not a problem at all, any time. That's why they keep me around here, remember?

Kelsenellenelvian · Nov 18, 2002, 04:12 AM

All I can say is NVIDIA RULZ!!!!

ScaryX · Nov 18, 2002, 01:01 PM

NVIDIA SUCKZ!!! I Hate GFORCE...TNT ...as much as I hate AMD!!!

digitalwanderer · Nov 18, 2002, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelsenellenelvian
All I can say is NVIDIA RULZ!!!!

Quote:

Originally posted by ScaryX
NVIDIA SUCKZ!!! I Hate GFORCE...TNT ...as much as I hate AMD!!!

Now that we've heard from our "special" hardware reviewer "experts", I think we can safely put this matter behind us.

nForcer · Nov 18, 2002, 03:33 PM

lol. more like from our 'residant n00b' ScaryX, you just got owned!

reno · Nov 18, 2002, 04:01 PM

pwn@g3 8izz@ch!

ScaryX · Nov 18, 2002, 04:09 PM

I have my ATI Radeon 7500 and Im happy with it...all my friends are NVIDIA ass lickers...NVIDIA makes cheep crap only with low prices but GForse cards have temperature problem...

digitalwanderer · Nov 18, 2002, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by ScaryX
I have my ATI Radeon 7500 and Im happy with it...all my friends are NVIDIA ass lickers...NVIDIA makes cheep crap only with low prices but GForse cards have temperature problem...

I used to feel the same way you did back when I had my rage128 and also my radeon 7200, but when I picked up a GOOD GF2 MX400 it was all over.

There are a lot of different manufacturers of nVidia cards, and a lot of them do just shove crap out the door...but if you get yourself a good one you will understand the difference.

I'm not trying to convert you or tell you you're wrong, I really feel that's a choice only the individual can make, but try and keep an open mind and don't be blindly loyal by brand either way....judge it on a card by card basis. You'll benefit from it greatly.

ScaryX · Nov 18, 2002, 04:26 PM

ok!!! i keep open mind for that...it\s better if nvidia will make their cards in their factories...ok I don\t trust them...

nForcer · Nov 19, 2002, 04:07 PM

No, actually its not. Then they would be just like ATI - having to spread all thier efforts across thier company to develop, make, and produce the chip and card. By only developing the chip, they can put the extra funds towards R&D and leave the manufacturing to other companies. Its a win win situation for nVidia as long as there will be companies who'll want to user their chips

Nov 17, 2002, 11:28 PM	#1
~~David~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 959 Rep Power: 0	Nvidia first â€” and perhaps only â€” user of DDR II until 2004 SAN JOSE, Calif. â€” Nvidia Corp. will become the first mainstream user of DDR II memory when it announces its NV30 PC graphics processor at Comdex Monday (Nov. 18). However, Intel Corp. is not expected to support the memory type for broader use in PC main memory until 2004. "There's kind of a gap. That's why we are coming out with 400-MHz DDR-I," said Tom Quinn, vice president of marketing for Samsung Semiconductor Inc., which has DDR II parts available today. Samsung believes the fast DDR-I parts will fill a hole between 333-MHz DDR-I that is moving into mainstream desktop PCs today and the expected shift to DDR-II. Read the full story HERE Didnt ATI show a DDR-II R9700 on Techtv not to long ago?

Nov 17, 2002, 11:45 PM	#2
franguinho Brazilian Fool Join Date: May 2002 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 0	as far as i remember ATI's wasnt DDRII per se and their own variation for graphic cards... __________________ The Aliens mostly come out at night... mostly...

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:48 AM	#5
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	gdfh They ran DDRII on a chipset optimized for the bus of DDRI, DDRII is not compatible in memory management and write/read cycles, so the DDRII basically was glorified DDRI that was really expensive...and a marketing ploy.

Nov 18, 2002, 03:35 AM	#7
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	rrtew No... er...crap, now I've confused myself! Thanks a lot dig! hehe

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Kelsenellenelvian Master of my own Destiny Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: EverDawn Kingdom,TruEarth Posts: 1,394 Rep Power: 0	All I can say is NVIDIA RULZ!!!! __________________ [color=#0000ff] Download Windows Post-Install Wizard v4.3.8 and WPI Lite v1.2 Here [/color][color=red][color=blue][/color][/color]

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ScaryX DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Estonia Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	NVIDIA SUCKZ!!! I Hate GFORCE...TNT ...as much as I hate AMD!!!

Nov 18, 2002, 03:33 PM	#12
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	lol. more like from our 'residant n00b' ScaryX, you just got owned!

Nov 18, 2002, 04:01 PM	#13
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	ghfd pwn@g3 8izz@ch!

Nov 18, 2002, 04:09 PM	#14
ScaryX DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Estonia Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I have my ATI Radeon 7500 and Im happy with it...all my friends are NVIDIA ass lickers...NVIDIA makes cheep crap only with low prices but GForse cards have temperature problem...

Nov 18, 2002, 04:26 PM	#16
ScaryX DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Estonia Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	ok!!! i keep open mind for that...it\s better if nvidia will make their cards in their factories...ok I don\t trust them...

Nov 19, 2002, 04:07 PM	#17
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	No, actually its not. Then they would be just like ATI - having to spread all thier efforts across thier company to develop, make, and produce the chip and card. By only developing the chip, they can put the extra funds towards R&D and leave the manufacturing to other companies. Its a win win situation for nVidia as long as there will be companies who'll want to user their chips