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Old May 10, 2005, 10:32 PM   #1
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Default Post Far Cry AMD64 Edition - A First Look at 64-bit Gaming

For years, AMD has been talking about the positive impact that 64-bit will have on games. Honestly, we never bought it; games are still a couple of years away from breaking the 2GB process limitation under present day 32-bit Windows. Despite our lack of belief, AMD still did their best to convey the message that gamers would be given a better experience in a 64-bit environment.

AMD has been demoing 64-bit versions of the Unreal engine as well as Far Cry for quite some time now, but neither were ever made public. Originally, we heard talk of 20% increases in performance due to decreased register pressure when running in 64-bit mode. We desperately wanted to see a game recompiled with 64-bit support, but alas, we needed a 64-bit OS. Last month's release of Windows XP x64 Edition fulfilled the latter requirement, but we still lacked any games to test the hype.

The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay actually shipped with a 64-bit binary out of the box. Unfortunately, we saw absolutely no performance improvement from using the 64-bit binary vs. the 32-bit binary in our extensive evaluation of the x64 edition OS. If performance under Riddick was any indication, 64-bit wasn't going to be much of a performance sell for gamers.

Today, however, AMD and Ubisoft are announcing public availability of the first 64-bit patch and content update to Far Cry. As we just implied, the 64-bit add-ons to Far Cry come in two separate packages. First, there's the actual 64-bit patch that installs and enables a native 64-bit binary to run under x64 edition. The second package is the AMD64 Exclusive Content Update that improves the actual content in the game.
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Old May 10, 2005, 11:21 PM   #2
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Old May 11, 2005, 12:00 AM   #3
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can't wait to try it out
far cry 32-bit was fantastic...
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Old May 11, 2005, 12:42 AM   #4
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Downloading it here. The comparison made at Anandtech isn't fair. They show a game, with a lot more details than the first version running better than it and they say "we don't like it..."

Come on...
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Old May 11, 2005, 02:14 AM   #5
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Downloading it here. The comparison made at Anandtech isn't fair. They show a game, with a lot more details than the first version running better than it and they say "we don't like it..."

Come on...
i was thinking the same thing. it's like running a benchmark at 1024x768, then running it at 1280x960 and seeing a small increase in performance, then saying it's not enough to make it worthwile.

hell, if nothing but higher detail would have been added, i'd be impressed, but to increase the FPS as well is very good.
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Old May 11, 2005, 02:29 AM   #6
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what are the requirments for this, do you need win 64?
and i cant seem to find the darn DL


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Supported OS: Windows® XP, Windows® XP Professional x64 Edition
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 processor 2800+
RAM: 1GB
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800 or NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 class graphics card
Sound Card: AC-97 sound, Dolby Digital capable sound solution required for Dolby Digital audio.
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0 included with 64-bit OS
CD-ROM: 4X DVD or 16X CD-ROM
Hard Drive Space: 4 GB
Multiplay: Broadband with 64Kbps upstream play (512 Kbps upstream to host 8 players)
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Old May 11, 2005, 02:45 AM   #7
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They didn't say they didn't like it... just that they didn't see any benefits from the fact that it ran 64 bit binary paths.
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Old May 11, 2005, 02:56 AM   #8
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are there really any games that take advantage of your 64bit rig.Im wanting to go that route but both my pc guru's say wait.What kind of 1gb ram are you useing DDR-2 DDR-3 Dual Channel.Lot's of questions,everythinhg get's outdated so fast these day's.
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Old May 11, 2005, 03:28 AM   #9
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Old May 11, 2005, 04:44 AM   #10
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I think the increased visuals are amazing- I wish they gave some bigger screenshots!

Could someone with all the needed equipment put up some full res screens in this thread?




The part that bugs me, is that they said none of the improvements NEED a 64bit CPU- so why not release the patch for 32bit OS and CPU so we can all at least see it first hand?

The increased draw distance and texture detail are really nice looking from what I see- I can't wait to get my 64bit rig up and running and play through this game again with that eye candy turned on. It will be the first thing I do.
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it says under specs:

Supported OS: Windows® XP, Windows® XP Professional x64 Edition

does that mean you can use the normal windows XP, or you need to have the 64bit ????????
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The part that bugs me, is that they said none of the improvements NEED a 64bit CPU- so why not release the patch for 32bit OS and CPU so we can all at least see it first hand?

The increased draw distance and texture detail are really nice looking from what I see- I can't wait to get my 64bit rig up and running and play through this game again with that eye candy turned on. It will be the first thing I do.
pure marketing strategy - they just want to boost A64 sales chips still being pretty expensive. For my part AMD is out of luck - I am not going to buy a 64bit CPU just to see additional/improved Far Cry levels...far away from it

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I know, lets ask the question for a third time.

DOES THIS WORK ON WINDOWS XP SP2?
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Old May 11, 2005, 08:20 AM   #14
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I know, lets ask the question for a third time.

DOES THIS WORK ON WINDOWS XP SP2?
Here is the answer:

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...tid=125&page=1




The installation checks for A64 technology..
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Old May 11, 2005, 08:53 AM   #15
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pure marketing strategy - they just want to boost A64 sales chips still being pretty expensive. For my part AMD is out of luck - I am not going to buy a 64bit CPU just to see additional/improved Far Cry levels...far away from it
hey, i doubt that this is the end of the advantages for A64 owners. I'd say that this is just the tip of the iceberg. if more of the major games out there release 64bit patches that improve graphics quality and performance, there will be a lot more reasons to upgrade to 64bit technology.

just out of curiosity, is your sempron a socket A or socket 754?
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hey, i doubt that this is the end of the advantages for A64 owners. I'd say that this is just the tip of the iceberg. if more of the major games out there release 64bit patches that improve graphics quality and performance, there will be a lot more reasons to upgrade to 64bit technology.

just out of curiosity, is your sempron a socket A or socket 754?
Yep, u are right, an addicted gamer can't avoid the A64 for very long!
To answer your question - I am still on a KT600 chipset..
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Old May 11, 2005, 09:21 AM   #17
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lol, did you just update your sig or am i really slow?

yah, i just wondered what version of the sempron you had, if you had a skt 754 it would have been a lot easier to upgrade to 64 bit technology.
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lol, did you just update your sig or am i really slow?
Yep, I updated my sig to prevent more embarrassing questions like yours
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