DH Preview: ATI's Crossfire tested

Kombatant · Sep 27, 2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Ya but tehcreport also just did a review and the USB speed probs and PCI express ethernet prob seem stuck with that ATI southbrigde...

I'm not sure what I'm talking about if ever...

Afaik these problems are there unfortunately.

Zardon · Sep 27, 2005, 10:50 AM

I was actually chatting with Tony Leach in OCZ last night, aka "bigtoe" who helped ATI design this motherboard and there are apparently some issues with sustained USB rates, not burst rates with the chipset and the current revision.

Erroneus · Sep 27, 2005, 11:43 AM

What about the 60hz problem? Is it present? If so, then ATI has flopped bigtime.

The benches look god, the % increase by adding another card is fair, but if there is a 60hz problem and problems with I/O, maybe they should have waited to these bugs were fixed.

Releasing a product with big flaws can backfire.

deekey777 · Sep 27, 2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

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also, I wonder how much that 1600x1200 @ 60Hz is dependent on the drivers telling the cards that's the limit, or if some fancy INF/BIOS work can unlock that? My guess is due to the downsampling used in SSAA, higher resolution isn't possible, but even 1600x1200 @ 85 would be a huge improvement

You can't "unlock" this limitation. It's caused by the slave card and not by the master card or CE. Single master card shouldn't have this limitation.

mike2h · Sep 27, 2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by knuth

I'd still opt for a single card solution any day. Duel cards are way too over the top and ineffecient as far as economics go.

yep. unless you got a kickass 22" crt. but how many of us have those.
what cracks me up is that a large pecentage of people buying these great cards have halfass monitors. & improperly adjusted.

SFOSOK · Sep 27, 2005, 08:22 PM

1600x1200 crt moniters are not very expensive when compared to LCD's nowadays. I'm goin LCD because I don't really feel like I need 1600x1200 and I want the direct DVI connection, not a VGA adapter. When 1600x1200 LCD screens come down in price to like 300 then I will buy one.

A1A9C1 · Sep 29, 2005, 04:23 AM

Good Job Again Guys.

The setup didn't do too bad either.

redsolar · Sep 29, 2005, 05:52 AM

Nice read

. I might just wait to upgrade for a little more

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dipstick · Sep 29, 2005, 05:15 PM

Excellent preview guys, although imho the hardware limitations are absolutely devastating for a dual card setup.

edperks · Sep 30, 2005, 06:21 AM

This is one awesome review that took alot of time and work to put to together I congratulate Stuart on one good and detailed review. Great review Stuart this is why I like DH.

Zardon · Sep 30, 2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by edperks

This is one awesome review that took alot of time and work to put to together I congratulate Z on one good and detailed review. Great review Z this is why I like DH.

Stuart did the review, he deserves the credit.

Raptor · Sep 30, 2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2h

LMAO

edperks · Sep 30, 2005, 10:35 PM

Zardon, I correct my post thanks for pointing that out. Great Review either way!!

Wesleyrpg · Oct 1, 2005, 09:58 AM

So Mr ATI, where can i buy one of these?

Newegg? No

ATI webite? No

Any website on the net? NO!

Hmm, me think ATI are screwing us again with yet ANOTHER paper launch. Probbaly another 6 months before they are available in retail channels.

Sep 27, 2005, 11:43 AM	#33
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	What about the 60hz problem? Is it present? If so, then ATI has flopped bigtime. The benches look god, the % increase by adding another card is fair, but if there is a 60hz problem and problems with I/O, maybe they should have waited to these bugs were fixed. Releasing a product with big flaws can backfire. __________________

Sep 27, 2005, 08:22 PM	#36
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	1600x1200 crt moniters are not very expensive when compared to LCD's nowadays. I'm goin LCD because I don't really feel like I need 1600x1200 and I want the direct DVI connection, not a VGA adapter. When 1600x1200 LCD screens come down in price to like 300 then I will buy one. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 29, 2005, 05:52 AM	#38
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Nice read . I might just wait to upgrade for a little more . __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Sep 30, 2005, 06:21 AM	#40
edperks HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 780 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	This is one awesome review that took alot of time and work to put to together I congratulate Stuart on one good and detailed review. Great review Stuart this is why I like DH. Last edited by edperks; Sep 30, 2005 at 10:33 PM.

Oct 1, 2005, 09:58 AM	#44
Wesleyrpg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	So Mr ATI, where can i buy one of these? Newegg? No ATI webite? No Any website on the net? NO! Hmm, me think ATI are screwing us again with yet ANOTHER paper launch. Probbaly another 6 months before they are available in retail channels. __________________ MSI Megabook M510C Mobility Raedon 9600 64Mb Standard 350/460 oc'ed 400/520 P M 2.1, 1Gig DDR333, Hitachi 60gig 7200RPM 01=13,500 03=3,275 05=1118 Aquamark03=27,797 FFXI=5857

Sep 27, 2005, 10:50 AM	Thread Starter #32
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I was actually chatting with Tony Leach in OCZ last night, aka "bigtoe" who helped ATI design this motherboard and there are apparently some issues with sustained USB rates, not burst rates with the chipset and the current revision.

Sep 29, 2005, 04:23 AM	#37
A1A9C1 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Charlotte Posts: 92 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Good Job Again Guys. The setup didn't do too bad either.

Sep 29, 2005, 05:15 PM	#39
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Excellent preview guys, although imho the hardware limitations are absolutely devastating for a dual card setup.

Sep 30, 2005, 10:35 PM	#43
edperks HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 780 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Zardon, I correct my post thanks for pointing that out. Great Review either way!!