Would you pay Microsoft to protect Windows?

Vikingod · Oct 12, 2005, 04:12 PM

Microsoft last week announced it would launch a set of anti-virus and anti-spyware products but will enterprises trust the software giant to protect its own products and more importantly, will they pay for the privilege?

Michael Warrilow, director of Sydney-based analyst firm Hydrasight, believes Microsoft is in a 'catch 22' situation because enterprises will not want to pay for products that are designed to protect them from failings in Microsoft's other products.

"They talk about trustworthy computing but if you can trust them, should you need to have these new [security] products anyway? I don't think they are ready to trust Microsoft in this space yet. They are going to continue to trust companies like Symantec and McAfee," said Warillow.
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Master Shake · Oct 12, 2005, 05:09 PM

I'm not going to pay them to protect their own junk.

mike2h · Oct 12, 2005, 05:35 PM

no $$ from me.

daedal · Oct 12, 2005, 05:42 PM

Absurd. Create a product that is riped with security leaks and holes and then sell ANOTHER product to "protect" those holes? *Claps hands sarcastically*

Master Shake · Oct 12, 2005, 05:56 PM

What makes you think that this product wouldn't also be flawed?

Makere · Oct 12, 2005, 06:05 PM

Why would I pay for this when I'm not paying for Windoze?

twoodcc · Oct 12, 2005, 06:14 PM

i wouldn't pay either

Iria · Oct 12, 2005, 07:24 PM

My concern is that despite the fact that other companies have a "big lead" on them in terms of experience in this field, the name "Microsoft" may get people to buy the product and kill off all the "smaller" alternatives. Personally, I'm not even using a "major" player AV in terms of market share. I use NOD32 because I like the small footprint and heuristics.

Vikingod · Oct 12, 2005, 07:31 PM

I can see this as being a problem as well. I see it being installed with future windows installations and causing the same problems as the media player did (at least in Europe). For the masses, its probably OK, as people need virus and spyware protection and most dont have it, but will big M leave the rest of us alone?

BWX · Oct 12, 2005, 09:40 PM

Why would I pay them for something they have proven they are blatantly incompetent of doing?

SFOSOK · Oct 12, 2005, 09:45 PM

I'm goin to destroy windows out of spite, I got a bunch around my house that I know no one is looking through.

Zelig · Oct 13, 2005, 12:02 AM

Hah, I barely use anything that comes bundled with windows... the list:

msconfig
services.msc
gpedit.msc
command
volume control
character map

I'm pretty sure that's all of them, I don't even use explorer as a shell or anything.

pr0digal jenius · Oct 13, 2005, 12:57 AM

I actually, have come to use mostly M$ Apps lately, for all the flack they catch, if your not a complete babbling idiot, they work quite well.

Office 2003
MS AntiSpyware
Windows XP Pro
Windows Media Player 10

Things that had to, umm, "go"
Out with IE...in with Opera
Out with Notepad, in with notepad 3.0
Out with boring MSStyles, in with Alienware AlienGUIse
Out with MSN Messenger, in with Trillian

Oct 12, 2005, 04:12 PM	#1
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Would you pay Microsoft to protect Windows? Microsoft last week announced it would launch a set of anti-virus and anti-spyware products but will enterprises trust the software giant to protect its own products and more importantly, will they pay for the privilege? Michael Warrilow, director of Sydney-based analyst firm Hydrasight, believes Microsoft is in a 'catch 22' situation because enterprises will not want to pay for products that are designed to protect them from failings in Microsoft's other products. "They talk about trustworthy computing but if you can trust them, should you need to have these new [security] products anyway? I don't think they are ready to trust Microsoft in this space yet. They are going to continue to trust companies like Symantec and McAfee," said Warillow. __________ Read More / Source: ZDNet __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Oct 12, 2005, 05:35 PM	#3
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	no $$ from me. __________________

Oct 12, 2005, 05:42 PM	#4
daedal Uber Coffee Drinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 2,250 Rep Power: 0	Absurd. Create a product that is riped with security leaks and holes and then sell ANOTHER product to "protect" those holes? Claps hands sarcastically __________________

Oct 12, 2005, 07:24 PM	#8
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 87	My concern is that despite the fact that other companies have a "big lead" on them in terms of experience in this field, the name "Microsoft" may get people to buy the product and kill off all the "smaller" alternatives. Personally, I'm not even using a "major" player AV in terms of market share. I use NOD32 because I like the small footprint and heuristics. Last edited by Iria; Oct 12, 2005 at 07:33 PM.

Oct 12, 2005, 07:31 PM	Thread Starter #9
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I can see this as being a problem as well. I see it being installed with future windows installations and causing the same problems as the media player did (at least in Europe). For the masses, its probably OK, as people need virus and spyware protection and most dont have it, but will big M leave the rest of us alone? __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

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Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	I'm not going to pay them to protect their own junk.

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Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	What makes you think that this product wouldn't also be flawed?

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Makere DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Why would I pay for this when I'm not paying for Windoze?

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twoodcc DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 143 Rep Power: 0	i wouldn't pay either

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BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Why would I pay them for something they have proven they are blatantly incompetent of doing? __________________

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SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	I'm goin to destroy windows out of spite, I got a bunch around my house that I know no one is looking through. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

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Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Hah, I barely use anything that comes bundled with windows... the list: msconfig services.msc gpedit.msc command volume control character map I'm pretty sure that's all of them, I don't even use explorer as a shell or anything. __________________ --

Oct 13, 2005, 12:57 AM	#13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I actually, have come to use mostly M$ Apps lately, for all the flack they catch, if your not a complete babbling idiot, they work quite well. Office 2003 MS AntiSpyware Windows XP Pro Windows Media Player 10 Things that had to, umm, "go" Out with IE...in with Opera Out with Notepad, in with notepad 3.0 Out with boring MSStyles, in with Alienware AlienGUIse Out with MSN Messenger, in with Trillian