Would YOU like an ATI X1800XT?

Syxxpacc · Nov 10, 2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdog

Sort of hate to say this but if people are buying them off ebay to enter into this contest it sort of taints the whole thing.

well thats one way ATi can say: hey our OLD cards are worth something \o/. atm with this competition those prices are off the chart

Dazz · Nov 11, 2005, 12:30 AM

Don't have the oldest but have one of the rarist, ATi Rage Fury MAXX 64MB.

Zardon · Nov 11, 2005, 12:48 AM

over 500 entries to this point, seems everyone wants a piece of X1800XT action.

Dark Lord · Nov 11, 2005, 12:55 AM

that reminds me, ive gotta dig out that old system ive got laying around here some place.

Poi159 · Nov 17, 2005, 08:50 AM

Hope i win ^^

T3hn0 · Nov 23, 2005, 11:31 PM

my oldest is ATI MACH64 TV PCI...made somewhere between '95 and '96.

Xmedic · Nov 24, 2005, 12:19 PM

I have an ATI VLB Mach32 with 2 meg ISA/VLB circa 1992. Pulled it out of an old system I bought at a garage sale years ago.

Guess I'll send i pic.....

GutterPunk · Nov 24, 2005, 10:18 PM

/me wishes he could go and just buy 1 but find it to be an integrity issue

I got an old card somewhere.... hope i find it tonight

j2t · Nov 28, 2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GutterPunk

/me wishes he could go and just buy 1 but find it to be an integrity issue

I got an old card somewhere.... hope i find it tonight

same here...so I just submitted the oldest I had...which won't win, but eh, oh well.

nofax1 · Nov 30, 2005, 04:01 PM

i have an ATI Rage IIc AGP in pristine condition sitting right here on my desk. Do we have a winner?

BWX · Nov 30, 2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nofax1

i have an ATI Rage IIc AGP in pristine condition sitting right here on my desk. Do we have a winner?

Doubtful...

spanspace · Nov 30, 2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jmke

$8 for 3D Rage "I" (ATI's first card) on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-3D-RAGE-PCI-...QQcmdZViewItem

Its not the oldest

spanspace · Nov 30, 2005, 06:38 PM

Little tip the first card was made in 87 and is the Ega Wonder. Vga Wonder followed that. After that was the Mach 8.

Tipstaff · Dec 1, 2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by spanspace

Little tip the first card was made in 87 and is the Ega Wonder. Vga Wonder followed that. After that was the Mach 8.

Psst.. <whispers> ATIs first card was made in '85 called the Graphics Solution (there were 7 versions). EGA Wonder came out in '87.

spanspace · Dec 1, 2005, 09:38 PM

I actually got into a release date sheet from ATI themselves. I do not plan on even entering this contest.

What ever they put out prior to '87 was not under the ATi name or the ATi moniker.

Here is a history page for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Technologies

Tipstaff · Dec 2, 2005, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spanspace

I actually got into a release date sheet from ATI themselves. I do not plan on even entering this contest.

What ever they put out prior to '87 was not under the ATi name or the ATi moniker.

Here is a history page for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Technologies

<sigh> Ahem...

"In 1985, ATI introduced its first graphics board product, the GRAPHICS SOLUTION, based on the Company’s proprietary 16800 graphics controller, which was capable of supporting all of the then current graphics interfaces and PC monitors. Prior to the introduction of products such as the GRAPHICS SOLUTION, a specific graphics board was required to interface with each type of PC monitor and with each type of software. Improvements in image resolution and colour definition were subsequently achieved by ATI’s EGA WONDER and VGA WONDER series of products which supported the then current EGA and VGA industry standards for PC graphics."

Press HERE, and goto page 6, and take note of the http address.

Uagm · Dec 2, 2005, 01:30 PM

Submitted mine too.Worth a try,I guess.

spanspace · Dec 2, 2005, 03:11 PM

"Prior to the introduction of products such as the GRAPHICS SOLUTION, a specific graphics board was required to interface with each type of PC monitor and with each type of software. Improvements in image resolution and colour definition were subsequently achieved by ATI’s EGA WONDER and VGA WONDER series of products"

In my native tongue prior means before. Meaning prior to the GRAPHICS SOLUTION.

ROUND THREE?

Runner3001 · Dec 2, 2005, 09:18 PM

The paragraph means before ATi released boards based on the 16800 there was no unifying graphics solution that could service every type of currently available display. Round 3 of what? You're wrong, hes right. Companies don't just forget about products they've released, as much as some might want to. The Graphics Solution was ATi's first series of cards, thats all there is to it.

chorner · Dec 3, 2005, 01:06 AM

hey guys... I have an old ATI ISA video card from 1992

Anywhere close to old enough? =P

Tipstaff · Dec 3, 2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Runner3001

The paragraph means before ATi released boards based on the 16800 there was no unifying graphics solution that could service every type of currently available display. Round 3 of what? You're wrong, hes right. Companies don't just forget about products they've released, as much as some might want to. The Graphics Solution was ATi's first series of cards, thats all there is to it.

Thank you, Runner.

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spanspace:

"Prior to the introduction of products such as the GRAPHICS SOLUTION.."

Prior to, as in BEFORE the Graphics Solution card (which, btw, is a CGA/MDA ISA card) there were no ATI cards. It was their first card. Period. The only reason I even posted was to not confuse the issue for other entries. The Graphics Solution card was the first one put out by ATI in '85. At first they sold this to Commodore in bulk (can't remember if it was the chip only though, but it was almost exclusively), and at cost in order to survive, but they did sell a card to consumers as an ATI card. We bought them as such (read below). The EGA wonder came after that in '87, and was their first full production card (but again, not their first card). After that was the VGA Wonder in '88.

Just so that you know we used to buy these cards directly from ATIs distributor, Ahon.. or something.. can't recall the exact name (it's been 20 years). For a long time all ATI cards were sold through this distributor. You couldn't buy them directly from ATI. Years later that distributor, seeing that they could make more money as an OEM, negotiated a deal with ATI to make their OEM cards for them. So, they shut their doors down, and started up their OEM business. Guess who those guys are? Sapphire Technologies.

And btw, if you actually read this entire thread you will have seen entrants from people that still have a Graphics Solution card. In particular read page 12 which has numerous responses to the age of one guys card, and Zardons response about it being the "oldest" card up to that point.

Know what? Like I said, I only posted to correct ya, not to get into a debate about it. Read the whole thread, and you will see that people do have a Graphics Solution "standalone" card that was made in 1985, which is obviously before the EGA Wonder which came out 2 years later. Hell, if I really dig I might even find one here for you.

chorner · Dec 5, 2005, 07:44 PM

Some really intesresting history info. found through this thread.

I did have an old VGA wonder card I used in an old 8086 system with the old ISA/EISA and VLB bus (although I think if I remember it wasn't until my 2086 that I had a system with a VLB slot and a whole 20MB hard disk! haha ... long since thrown out though after throwing away piles of stuff. Oh well...

Guess the mach 32 I still have at this point won't cut it to win this one :P

recoton · Dec 6, 2005, 05:30 AM

I have a vga wonder-16 that should get real close to winning,stands with fingers crossed.it was made back in 1989 and it still functions.Its a isa variant

ViRuS2k · Dec 6, 2005, 05:52 AM

who needs one when you already have one BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

still if i had the oldest card in the history of ATI i still wouldnt win lol

Zardon · Dec 10, 2005, 08:21 PM

ok guys I wont be accepting anymore entries in email and ill announce the entry sometime in the coming week, thanks for your interest I have had more entries for this contest than anything we have ever done on DH.

Synetech · Dec 11, 2005, 03:36 AM

Damn! I came across this thread a few hours too late; story of my life.

(Although... Zardon said no more entries by email...)

Anyway, here's a scan of a card that my friend gave me back in 1996 for those of you who weren't even alive back then—and Zardon. It's an MDA card (that's black-and-white for you kids.)

[COLOR=Navy]Here[/COLOR]

Synetech · Dec 11, 2005, 03:53 AM

Ooh, I've got a real treat for you guys. I'm going to see if I can find an old VIVO board I've got somewhere. It used a small ribbon cable—like and IDE cable but with fewer pins—to connect to the feature connector on VGA boards. It had an RCA connector in and another one out, plus SVHS in/out. It was made by AITech who is still around and does not seem to have anything to do with ATI. It was used in DOS and Windows 3.0, and had a driver—I still have a copy on my hard drive right now. I just checked the driver file and it's called ProVGA/TV Plus. Wow, it even had a DLL and instructions on how to write software for it. Nice!

It's a really, really, really long board, in fact it did not even fit inside most cases. I'll probably have to do two scans and splice.

Zardon · Dec 11, 2005, 11:55 AM

The competition has closed and im working through almost 850 entries for this! Ill leave this thread open for you guys to chat.

The oldest cards we received were variants of the Ati Graphics solution Plus circa 1985 so anyone who has submitted an entry for this will be in with a shot. Im just conferring with ATI to make sure this is all cleared and verified by them.

Zardon · Dec 11, 2005, 01:14 PM

Also I meant to say according to ATI there was an older card than the Graphics Solution, that being the ATI Color Emulation Card, but no one entered with one of these.......

IvanV · Dec 11, 2005, 01:55 PM

Was that card ever available for purchace? It's strange how noone remembers it, and I think none of the pages that were linked to in this thread mention it. Could ATi treat us with a photo of it?

Nov 11, 2005, 12:55 AM	#214
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	that reminds me, ive gotta dig out that old system ive got laying around here some place. __________________

Nov 24, 2005, 12:19 PM	#217
Xmedic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	How about this card? I have an ATI VLB Mach32 with 2 meg ISA/VLB circa 1992. Pulled it out of an old system I bought at a garage sale years ago. Guess I'll send i pic.....

Nov 24, 2005, 10:18 PM	#218
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Dec 11, 2005, 03:36 AM	#236
Synetech poison pizza Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Not LA or NYC :( Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Damn! I came across this thread a few hours too late; story of my life. (Although... Zardon said no more entries by email...) Anyway, here's a scan of a card that my friend gave me back in 1996 for those of you who weren't even alive back then—and Zardon. It's an MDA card (that's black-and-white for you kids.) *[COLOR=Navy]Here[/COLOR]* __________________ -- Synetech Last edited by Synetech; Dec 11, 2005 at 03:42 AM.

Dec 11, 2005, 03:53 AM	#237
Synetech poison pizza Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Not LA or NYC :( Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Ooh, I've got a real treat for you guys. I'm going to see if I can find an old VIVO board I've got somewhere. It used a small ribbon cable—like and IDE cable but with fewer pins—to connect to the feature connector on VGA boards. It had an RCA connector in and another one out, plus SVHS in/out. It was made by AITech who is still around and does not seem to have anything to do with ATI. It was used in DOS and Windows 3.0, and had a driver—I still have a copy on my hard drive right now. I just checked the driver file and it's called ProVGA/TV Plus. Wow, it even had a DLL and instructions on how to write software for it. Nice! It's a really, really, really long board, in fact it did not even fit inside most cases. I'll probably have to do two scans and splice. __________________ -- Synetech

Nov 11, 2005, 12:30 AM	#212
Dazz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Don't have the oldest but have one of the rarist, ATi Rage Fury MAXX 64MB.

Nov 11, 2005, 12:48 AM	Thread Starter #213
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	over 500 entries to this point, seems everyone wants a piece of X1800XT action.

Nov 17, 2005, 08:50 AM	#215
Poi159 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hope i win ^^

Nov 23, 2005, 11:31 PM	#216
T3hn0 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Slovenia Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	my oldest is ATI MACH64 TV PCI...made somewhere between '95 and '96.

Nov 30, 2005, 04:01 PM	#220
nofax1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	i have an ATI Rage IIc AGP in pristine condition sitting right here on my desk. Do we have a winner?

Nov 30, 2005, 06:38 PM	#223
spanspace DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Little tip the first card was made in 87 and is the Ega Wonder. Vga Wonder followed that. After that was the Mach 8.

Dec 1, 2005, 09:38 PM	#225
spanspace DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I actually got into a release date sheet from ATI themselves. I do not plan on even entering this contest. What ever they put out prior to '87 was not under the ATi name or the ATi moniker. Here is a history page for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Technologies

Dec 2, 2005, 01:30 PM	#227
Uagm DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Greece Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Submitted mine too.Worth a try,I guess.

Dec 2, 2005, 03:11 PM	#228
spanspace DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	"Prior to the introduction of products such as the GRAPHICS SOLUTION, a specific graphics board was required to interface with each type of PC monitor and with each type of software. Improvements in image resolution and colour definition were subsequently achieved by ATI’s EGA WONDER and VGA WONDER series of products" In my native tongue prior means before. Meaning prior to the GRAPHICS SOLUTION. ROUND THREE?

Dec 2, 2005, 09:18 PM	#229
Runner3001 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	The paragraph means before ATi released boards based on the 16800 there was no unifying graphics solution that could service every type of currently available display. Round 3 of what? You're wrong, hes right. Companies don't just forget about products they've released, as much as some might want to. The Graphics Solution was ATi's first series of cards, thats all there is to it.

Dec 3, 2005, 01:06 AM	#230
chorner DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	hey guys... I have an old ATI ISA video card from 1992 Anywhere close to old enough? =P

Dec 5, 2005, 07:44 PM	#232
chorner DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Some really intesresting history info. found through this thread. I did have an old VGA wonder card I used in an old 8086 system with the old ISA/EISA and VLB bus (although I think if I remember it wasn't until my 2086 that I had a system with a VLB slot and a whole 20MB hard disk! haha ... long since thrown out though after throwing away piles of stuff. Oh well... Guess the mach 32 I still have at this point won't cut it to win this one :P

Dec 6, 2005, 05:30 AM	#233
recoton DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I have a vga wonder-16 that should get real close to winning,stands with fingers crossed.it was made back in 1989 and it still functions.Its a isa variant

Dec 6, 2005, 05:52 AM	#234
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	who needs one when you already have one BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA still if i had the oldest card in the history of ATI i still wouldnt win lol

Dec 10, 2005, 08:21 PM	Thread Starter #235
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	ok guys I wont be accepting anymore entries in email and ill announce the entry sometime in the coming week, thanks for your interest I have had more entries for this contest than anything we have ever done on DH.

Dec 11, 2005, 11:55 AM	Thread Starter #238
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	The competition has closed and im working through almost 850 entries for this! Ill leave this thread open for you guys to chat. The oldest cards we received were variants of the Ati Graphics solution Plus circa 1985 so anyone who has submitted an entry for this will be in with a shot. Im just conferring with ATI to make sure this is all cleared and verified by them.

Dec 11, 2005, 01:14 PM	Thread Starter #239
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Also I meant to say according to ATI there was an older card than the Graphics Solution, that being the ATI Color Emulation Card, but no one entered with one of these.......

Dec 11, 2005, 01:55 PM	#240
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 280 System Specs	Was that card ever available for purchace? It's strange how noone remembers it, and I think none of the pages that were linked to in this thread mention it. Could ATi treat us with a photo of it? __________________ Our Folding@home stats: