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Old Feb 10, 2006, 11:18 PM   #1
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DH Review: AMD FX-60 CPU

Stuart has just spent a month with a rather sexy processor ......

Rather than rushing a "launch" review we have been using this CPU for a month now under a vast array of heavy duty tasks ranging from online fragging to video encoding, so we will be giving you the verdict on whether this rather expensive CPU is worth the money...

The FX-60 is a 90nm part based on AMD’s Toledo core. AMD pack over 233million transistors into the FX60 at 90nm and end up with a die size just over 199mm2. The chip comes clocked at 2.6ghz and features 2 cores (like the X2 range of CPU’s). Cache levels are set to 64kb of both L1 data and L1 code and L2 cache is 1mb (per core). The chip supports all the usual technologies such as SSE3 and x86-64 and has a reasonably low operating voltage of 1.3-1.35v. We say low because the same Toledo core was used on the X2 4800+ and on that chip the voltage requirement is 1.35-1.4v for a slower 2.4ghz clock.



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Old Feb 11, 2006, 01:25 AM   #2
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Looks freagin sweet but I can't afford it : (

Anyone know of amd X2 4400 with unlocked multipliers?
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yes it's out of my price range but damm that's one hella sweet Dual core CPU. I have to say that CPU reviews usually dont appeal to my reading taste but Stu you did a great job keeping my intrest throught
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very nice review! though i got ot say i am a little underwhelmed by its performance as compared to the intel cpu. the intel 950 is a lower rated & much cheaper(about $400) cpu yet it manages to do ok. a better comparison would have been the 3.7 extreme that goes for about the same price.
of course, i know you just dont have one of these (&proper mb) just laying around
if i was going t oamd rought think i would go with dual 4800 & save quite a few $$. then again the oc potential.....
again, thx for an informative & well done review!
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an overclocked 4400 can nearly be as fast as an fx60 or faster.

an o/c 3800+ in the benchmarks in sisoftsandra beats an 4800+. (on air)

just get a cheaper model and oc it a bit and you have your NEAR FX60 experience

I shall get the fx60... ones it costs $500 and is 60mm
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very nice review! though i got ot say i am a little underwhelmed by its performance as compared to the intel cpu. the intel 950 is a lower rated & much cheaper(about $400) cpu yet it manages to do ok. a better comparison would have been the 3.7 extreme that goes for about the same price.
of course, i know you just dont have one of these (&proper mb) just laying around
if i was going t oamd rought think i would go with dual 4800 & save quite a few $$. then again the oc potential.....
again, thx for an informative & well done review!

Yeah, Intel keep letting us down in that dept...i think in my whole time on the site they have sent me 1 review product. So we do what we can with the resources we have...and in this case the 950 was the best Intel chip i could lay my hands on (and i had to borrow that!).
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I wonder if we shall see these chips head to the consumer dells and HP's on the market...
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I wonder if we shall see these chips head to the consumer dells and HP's on the market...
if intel doesnt pull a miracle NOW we will by the end of this year the latest
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OUCH price tag I knew there was a chatch some where LOL! Thats the killer $$$
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Old Feb 12, 2006, 01:53 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #12
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OUCH price tag I knew there was a chatch some where LOL! Thats the killer $$$
I agree, they cost in excess of £700 here. That is a hell of a lot of money, no matter how fast it is, but if you must have the best...........
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Very nice review, but i agree with everyone's view on the price. The cost/benefit isn't good in my view. I love my 4400, and it seems I bought pretty well with it. Though if you can afford the FX60, you do have bragging rights, but it also appears you are a bit of a sucker.

edit: I also have to add, the design of the review (the way everything looks) is great, best yet in my books. Good job.
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One issue with the review

The Photoshop page in the review mentions paging and large files. The problem is the DriverHeaven PhotoShop Bench only tests memory and CPU performance. These are areas of strength for Intel's current chips. AMD has strengths in I/O.

Other than the PhotoShop page the review was interesting. Like many other posters the price is out of my personal ballpark.
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mmmm, isnt that the whole point of the review to test cpu performance and related memory I/O ???

Well I think its important, i use photoshop and most of the tasks in the action scripting are quite indicative of everyday use with some of them actually being filters much more intensive that most people use, so its a huge stress test........ and its also stressing various aspects of a CPU - not just a single instruction set. I wouldnt class it as a Intel biased bench, its just intel processors are generally better with photoshop .... they always have been. I also wouldnt class the photoshop bench as the main purpose for buying or rating a CPU as in other areas the AMD is stronger, its just a part of the whole "suite" and one which many people like myself find interesting and useful. The more information we are armed with the better it is for a possible purchase.
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The Photoshop page in the review mentions paging and large files. The problem is the DriverHeaven PhotoShop Bench only tests memory and CPU performance. These are areas of strength for Intel's current chips. AMD has strengths in I/O.
If you mean CPU/system I/O then you are Incorrect. If you mean hard drive I/O then you are correct. However you realise this review has nothing to do with hard drive, paging or scratch disc performance. This benchmark tests system and CPU I/O / bandwidth/performance. The suite uses nothing specific to influence results in favour of a particular manufacturer, in fact everything used in the test suite is a good indication of overall real world use which is why I set it up in the first place. After all if we started using files which leak into the photoshop paging file it will seriously corrupt any accurate form of CPU testing as the files are being paged in and out of hard drive space, limiting CPU load.

Personally I think you are somewhat confused with exactly what the benchmark is set up to do and how it works, I can explain this to you in detail via email if you wish or you can read the photoshop suite page thoroughly which should help you understand.
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who needs this shit lol well overpriced and not worth the effort.
my £290 X2 4400+ beats the FX60 by quite a bit in performance so who am i to complain and want one lol i dont need it.
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