PhysX Graphics Solution

Dyre Straits · Mar 28, 2006, 04:38 AM

Anyone familiar with this product?

Be sure to check out the realtime videos.

http://physx.ageia.com/index.html

Lowfat · Mar 28, 2006, 08:08 PM

hola. looks better i thought it would. But don't know if i can justify another $350CAD for it.

Vikingod · Mar 28, 2006, 08:25 PM

I hope it takes off, and gets affordable. I'd pay 100 or so, maybe more if I was sure I wasn't going to have to do the same in two years. This company has an up hill battle. The graphics card companies have their own physics procs on the floor, and they have a good hold in the market. From what I've seen, AGEIA blows them out of the water quality wise, but the price, and the fact that there are no title that use it, is a problem. I'd just assume the hit in performance and use the hardware I already own, instead of shell out 200 bucks for an unproven piece of equipment.

Regardless, this is the future of gaming, in five years, it will be as common place as a graphics card.

Lowfat · Mar 28, 2006, 08:58 PM

OMG i just finished downloading the 180mb 5minute video, and it blew me away. If games are going to support this card like that, i will definately shell out the money.

Vikingod · Mar 28, 2006, 09:07 PM

I problem is, the company forces developers to use their specific engine, as opposed to NV and ATI, which are poised to work with many engines (HAVOK for starters). Any time you try to break into a market with proprietary requirements, it spells trouble, and hard business. I think this is going to be the AGEIA downfall, requiring game companies to buy into their engine. that behavior causes production costs to go up, something no-one likes, developer or consumer, specifically for unproven products.

dipstick · Mar 28, 2006, 09:33 PM

It will take quite a few AAA titles with some sick use of physics for me to spend the nice chunk of $$ they'll be asking for. Also there is rumor I will be able to keep my XTX just for physics when I upgrade to R600 so it makes buying an ageia an even tougher choice

RejZoR · Apr 4, 2006, 12:48 AM

299$ for this thing!? Are they freakin nuts? And thats MSRP or whats that crap. When i'll get this in my country it will be 350$ for sure :nuts: Geez i never gave that much for graphic card which is used for everything and everywhere. This thing will be vegetating in PCs for months before we'll get 1 title thats supports it. Wooooooo..............not

So if i convert this in our currency...

GeForce 6600GT, 3 months ago it was ~40.000 sit (now you can get them for les than 35k)
This PhysiX thing would cost around ~70.000 sit now!

Quiet (too) big difference if you ask me...
They'll really have to change the price otherwise low and mid class ppl will get screwed big time (just look how it is with incredibly expensive graphic cards, yet they are buying them like nuts).

Lowfat · Apr 4, 2006, 08:28 AM

Hmm i wonder if you'll be able to overclock this thing.

SSXeon · Apr 19, 2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

Hmm i wonder if you'll be able to overclock this thing.

Was wondering when someone said that!

Yeah they also have a 64MB ver, and even tho the 128MB is $299MSRP, dell sells them for $250 for pcs. I would get it for $125 no more (64MB). If havoc and the PhysX both do what ATi and Nv do, then it will be fine. IMHO the Havoc FX looks better to me then this.

Lowfat · Apr 22, 2006, 05:05 AM

A member on another forum said it uses Geforec4/9800 mounting holes. So it should have a lot of aftermarket cooling that should fit.
He also said its totally useless right now. There is only like 5 titles released for it. Even 3dMark06 didn't see a single gain.

I'll definately be waiting a while till i grab one up.

MGaz · Dec 24, 2006, 05:18 AM

so what games it work with?

Myself i think it would have been better for them to do what ARM holdings have done. They are a fabless company, who sell 'intellectual' property. this means that 'other' company's build there hardware under license. What i'm thinking is, it would have been better to have sold this technology to be integrated in to either AMD & intel CPUS, OR integrated in to NVIDIA & ATI cards as a feature. (dunno if that would be possible.)

Better still, mobo manufactures could of integrated a n additional socket on their boards to plug one of these things in! just like my old 80-286 had a socket for a math co-processor. <this is the best idea IMO.

Mar 28, 2006, 08:08 PM	#2
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	hola. looks better i thought it would. But don't know if i can justify another $350CAD for it. __________________

Mar 28, 2006, 08:58 PM	#4
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	OMG i just finished downloading the 180mb 5minute video, and it blew me away. If games are going to support this card like that, i will definately shell out the money. __________________

Apr 4, 2006, 08:28 AM	#8
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Hmm i wonder if you'll be able to overclock this thing. __________________

Apr 22, 2006, 05:05 AM	#10
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	A member on another forum said it uses Geforec4/9800 mounting holes. So it should have a lot of aftermarket cooling that should fit. He also said its totally useless right now. There is only like 5 titles released for it. Even 3dMark06 didn't see a single gain. I'll definately be waiting a while till i grab one up. __________________

Dec 24, 2006, 05:18 AM	#11
MGaz All wheel driver! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: five Cylinder Heaven, wales GB Posts: 204 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	so what games it work with? Myself i think it would have been better for them to do what ARM holdings have done. They are a fabless company, who sell 'intellectual' property. this means that 'other' company's build there hardware under license. What i'm thinking is, it would have been better to have sold this technology to be integrated in to either AMD & intel CPUS, OR integrated in to NVIDIA & ATI cards as a feature. (dunno if that would be possible.) Better still, mobo manufactures could of integrated a n additional socket on their boards to plug one of these things in! just like my old 80-286 had a socket for a math co-processor. <this is the best idea IMO. __________________ Processor: 7.5 Memory: 7.7 Graphics: 7.2 Gaming Graphics: 7.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.9 [3DMARK Vantage: 9229] [3DMARK 06: 18365] [3DMARK 03: 46941] [3DMARK 2001 SE: 36059] [3DMARK 2000: 29438]

Mar 28, 2006, 08:25 PM	#3
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	I hope it takes off, and gets affordable. I'd pay 100 or so, maybe more if I was sure I wasn't going to have to do the same in two years. This company has an up hill battle. The graphics card companies have their own physics procs on the floor, and they have a good hold in the market. From what I've seen, AGEIA blows them out of the water quality wise, but the price, and the fact that there are no title that use it, is a problem. I'd just assume the hit in performance and use the hardware I already own, instead of shell out 200 bucks for an unproven piece of equipment. Regardless, this is the future of gaming, in five years, it will be as common place as a graphics card.

Mar 28, 2006, 09:07 PM	#5
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	I problem is, the company forces developers to use their specific engine, as opposed to NV and ATI, which are poised to work with many engines (HAVOK for starters). Any time you try to break into a market with proprietary requirements, it spells trouble, and hard business. I think this is going to be the AGEIA downfall, requiring game companies to buy into their engine. that behavior causes production costs to go up, something no-one likes, developer or consumer, specifically for unproven products.

Mar 28, 2006, 09:33 PM	#6
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	It will take quite a few AAA titles with some sick use of physics for me to spend the nice chunk of $$ they'll be asking for. Also there is rumor I will be able to keep my XTX just for physics when I upgrade to R600 so it makes buying an ageia an even tougher choice

Apr 4, 2006, 12:48 AM	#7
RejZoR DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Europe/Slovenia/Ljubljana Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	299$ for this thing!? Are they freakin nuts? And thats MSRP or whats that crap. When i'll get this in my country it will be 350$ for sure :nuts: Geez i never gave that much for graphic card which is used for everything and everywhere. This thing will be vegetating in PCs for months before we'll get 1 title thats supports it. Wooooooo..............not So if i convert this in our currency... GeForce 6600GT, 3 months ago it was ~40.000 sit (now you can get them for les than 35k) This PhysiX thing would cost around ~70.000 sit now! Quiet (too) big difference if you ask me... They'll really have to change the price otherwise low and mid class ppl will get screwed big time (just look how it is with incredibly expensive graphic cards, yet they are buying them like nuts).