New player to GFX world!

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 12:56 AM

XGItech!

See their range of products!

http://www.xgitech.com/products/XGIP...09032003En.pdf

Their enthusiast product actually feature 2 GPU on a single PCB board. That is what we are looking for... duo GPU, dual the fun!

For the first time in gaming history, you can harness the brute force of true, dual GPUs on a single, DX9 Compliant board. Volari Duo takes on the task of graphics processing with twice the firepower of other graphics cards, blowing away 3D benchmark challenges like a pair of 9 millimeters. Enjoy the crisp clarity of independent frame rendering with a stunning increase in overall yield that will redefine what people expect from a GPU.
With an amazing 16 pipelines linked through a proprietary new bridge protocol, Volariâ„¢ Duo unleashes an avalanche of processing power that will leave the competition out in the cold.

True Hardware DirectX9
Both Volari Duo processors employ XGIâ€™s next generation TruShaderâ„¢ 2.1 Engine, taking vertex and pixel shading to a new level of realism. Combine this with built-in DirectX9 programmability and highly efficient pixel pipelines, 3D environments now come alive with cinematic realism and movie-studio caliber graphics. Advanced developers can take advantage of the Volari Duo processorâ€™s fully programmable DirectX9 functions to deliver visual experiences never before seen on the PC.

Volari Duo

Volariâ„¢ Duo V8 Ultra Specifications

Blazing-fast PCI Bus Interface
- 32-bit PCI local bus standard Revision 2.2 compliant
- True AGP2.0 & AGP3.0 Compliant configuration setting
- Hardware auto detect for AGP1.0, AGP2.0 or AGP3.0 mode support
Double Octa-pipe 3D Engine
- Extreme High performance 256-bit 3D engine
- High order surface tessellation
- Optimized hardware geometry transform/lighting/setup engine
- Total of 4 units of Vertex Shader with Fully compliant Direct3D 9.0 Vertex Shader ver. 2.0
- Total of 8 sets of Pixel Shader (2.0) with Fully compliant Direct3D 9.0 Pixel Shader ver. 2.0
- 16 sets high performance pixel rendering pipelines
- Supports Bump Mapping, Mipmapped Cubic Mapping and Volume Texture supports flat and Gouraud shading
- High quality anisotropic filtering
- Supports 2-side stencil.
- 2X/4X full scene anti-aliasing(FSAA)
Ultimate Performance 2D Engine
- Hardware command queue
- High-speed Direct Draw Accelerator
- Hardware GDI 2000 Accelerator
- Source read-buffer to minimize engine wait-state
- Built-in destination read-buffer to minimize engine wait-state
High Definition TV-OUT Solution with XV301
- PAL and NTSC Systems.
- Composite, S-Video, and Component RGB Output Signals
- Macrovision Copy Protection Process Rev. 7.1.L1
- HDTV 480i/480p/1080i/720p YPbPr Output Signals.
- A single link TMDS transmitter with excellent scaling capability for TFT LCD panel display
MPEG-2 Video Decoder

- MPEG-2 MP@ML standards compliant
- Supports up to 20 Mbit/sec bit rate decoding
- True hardware VCD, DVD and HDTV decoding
Video Accelerator
- YUV-to-RGB color space conversion
- Bi-linear video interpolation with integer increments of 1/2048
- Complete graphics and video overlay function
- Hardware video decoder interface
- Independent VBI capture
- Supports DVD sub-picture playback overlay
- Built-in independent Gamma correction RAM
Proprietary Cipher Video Processor
- 5 fields per-pixel motion detection de-interlace function, video sources from MPEG decoder, Video capture and AVI interfaces.
- Down scaling function and scaling vector as 1/2, 1/4.
- Next generation de-interlaced and 1/2 down scaling function.
Display Memory Interface
- Supports DDR SDRAM, DDR-II SDRAM type to 256M Bytes memory
BitFluent Architecture (XGI Volari Duo Only)

- Advanced interface for dual GPU solution
- Up to 2.13GB bus bandwidth
High Integration

- Programmable 24-bit true-color RAMDAC up to 400 MHz pixel clock
- Built-in VIP interface
- VESA Plug & Display for PanelLink Interface
- Built-in Thermal Diode for GPU Security-Update
Miscellaneous

- Supports 32K/64K/128K Bytes ROM decoding
- Supports 20MHz SPI ROM interface 1140-balls 37.5mm x 37.5mm FC-BGA package

http://www.xgitech.com

Shadow Lady · Sep 16, 2003, 04:06 AM

this is no ATI -.-

menain, wrong forum dude

PoopyTheJ · Sep 16, 2003, 04:16 AM

woah! What is this? Who are they? What???!!!

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 04:25 AM

Is this the first anyone has heard of this?

Dyre Straits · Sep 16, 2003, 04:29 AM

This should have gone in the

Other Upcoming Video Cards Thread

HsuGotaQ · Sep 16, 2003, 04:30 AM

From HardOCP

Quote:

Monday September 15, 2003
Posted by Steve 2:39 PM (CDT)
Just FYI, this is a company that consists of SiS (Xabre GPUs) and Trident merged companies. I would not get too excited as of yet.

Nuff said.

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
This should have gone in the

Other Upcoming Video Cards Thread

I'm sure the mods will see it soon and move it.

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HsuGotaQ
From HardOCP

Nuff said.

HA- it smelled like an Sis-trident type claim.. Shoulda known.

HsuGotaQ · Sep 16, 2003, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
HA- it smelled like an Sis-trident type claim.. Shoulda known.

Funny enough that was the same reaction I had... and it just so happened that the next website I checked out after reading this post was HardOCP. I even check out Google and could only find barely two pages of links pointing to XGITech related info (most chinese/japanese). Hopefully the product they are trying to bring to the market will be up to par (more competition, more price wars, happier gamers). But in this case, I won't say anything until they can show me the goods. I would also like to know if this card really has the first Dual Graphics Processor. (didn't SGI and even 3DFx came out with this before them)?

Woops... forgot to add this from the XGITech website :

Quote:

Founded in May of 2003 and headquartered in Taipei, Taiwan, XGI pulls from a deep reservoir of engineering and design talent stemming from its acquisitions of Trident Microsystems, and Silicon Integrated Systemsâ€™ graphics divisions. Guided by industry veterans with a deep understanding of the worldwide graphics processor market, XGI embodies a total commitment to providing a full range of high quality, cost effective products created for Professional Graphics, Multimedia Applications, 3D Gaming and Mobile Computing.

DallasStar · Sep 16, 2003, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
This should have gone in the

Other Upcoming Video Cards Thread

moved

PoopyTheJ · Sep 16, 2003, 04:47 AM

Yeah more competition would be good but umm this is from their site also

Volariâ„¢ Duo V8 Ultra Specifications

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BitFluent Architecture (XGI Volari Duo Only)

- Advanced interface for dual GPU solution
- Up to 2.13GB bus bandwidth

Doesn't the 9800Pro have like 24Gb/s? Is this the same thing? I don't know but more competition would be great, lower prices! They're supposedly releasing at comdex, hope they have more to show/offer than DeltaChrome

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 04:58 AM

Maybe they meant the first DX9 dual GPU-
But I have to be skeptical when they start out by making huge claims about being the biggest, fastest, most efficient, etc....

When they start out with a bunch of half-truths and outright lies, it's hard to take anything they say seriously. I hope the best for them, it would be good for everyone if they could back up the claims.. But we will see.

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 06:33 AM

Well, talents can be pulled from other companies. I hope that we are not too particular with company names. Consumers always wanted quality and priced rightly products. We should always be open to innovations.

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeuda
We should always be open to innovations.

Do you remember SiS and trident? Remember the claims? Remember the performance?

Dyre Straits · Sep 16, 2003, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
Remember the performance?

Or, more aptly, the lack of performance.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 16, 2003, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
- Up to 2.13GB bus bandwidth

Doesn't the 9800Pro have like 24Gb/s? Is this the same thing?

They are talking about the AGP bus. AGP 8x has 2.1GB/s bandwidth. You were thinking of memory bandwidth.

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
Maybe they meant the first DX9 dual GPU-

Yep that's what they said:

Quote:

For the first time in gaming history, you can harness the brute force of true, dual GPUs on a single, DX9 Compliant board.

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
Or, more aptly, the lack of performance.

Yeah right-- lack of performance. After all the hype too- I guess we will see about this one too.

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 08:46 AM

haha.. i cannot say anything about the performance, I am not related to the gfx or company in any way. Just say "we will wait and see" I am sure someone will be very keen to benchmark it. Just watch and see....

~~HawK~~ · Sep 16, 2003, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
Or, more aptly, the lack of performance.

Well I would say their lack of stability..... what stability??
But maybe this time it is all better, although the specs didnt make me jump
hope they have some reasonble drivers too..

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HawK
Well I would say their lack of stability..... what stability??
But maybe this time it is all better, although the specs didnt make me jump
hope they have some reasonble drivers too..

yeap, give others a chance, if you were in their shoes, I am sure you wanted that too.

mainman · Sep 16, 2003, 09:04 AM

Well guys lets just wait and see, so far it looks good on paper, but so did the nv fx and look what that turn out to be, like i said time will tell.

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeuda
I am sure someone will be very keen to benchmark it.

Yup, then we can start laughing, or fall over dead w/ a heart attack from shock if it does what it says it can.

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 10:05 AM

Gosh, u are just plain pessimistic about it. Think we should drop this discussionm, yea?

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeuda
Gosh, u are just plain pessimistic about it.

I am guilty of that, you are right.

Quote:

Originally posted by jeuda
Think we should drop this discussionm, yea?

Not at all, who knows, we all may be surprised. Crazier things haver happened.

Wait a second, no they haven't..

~~HawK~~ · Sep 16, 2003, 10:12 AM

Yah, but on paper they always look good, Parhelia comes to mind..
That said, by making things on paper, it seems you can make a living out of it

So yeah lets wait for the gaming results, I just don't beliefe Benchmarks anymore.

jeuda · Sep 16, 2003, 10:23 AM

well, benchmarks are still something to look for. Those cheats have little difference....

BWX · Sep 16, 2003, 10:34 AM

It will definitely be interesting!

Matth · Sep 16, 2003, 03:48 PM

Lets hope it's more than just vapourware - a 3rd player would certainly help to keep Nvidia and ATI honest on the price-performance issues.

The number of players have certainly shrunk since the dawn of 3d Graphics.

S3 are still there - though only as embedded onboards in VIA chipsets, with no real 3d power.
ATI and Nvidia - the only two names these days, it seems?
Matrox? http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/c...s_parhelia.cfm - they skipped DX7 hardware altogether, and are always thought of as high priced.

Anyone else still current?

Judas · Sep 16, 2003, 11:26 PM

well, maybe there is going to be more then 3 player showing up soon..... i didn't expect THEM to show up....so that adds.... up to 4

UberLord · Sep 17, 2003, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
Or, more aptly, the lack of performance.

Even more aptly - the stellar price performance.

Remember - their cards where half price of the cheapest nV cards and yet slightly faster...
Not as good as Kyro but still a good buget card

Sep 16, 2003, 12:56 AM	#1
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	New player to GFX world! XGItech! See their range of products! http://www.xgitech.com/products/XGIP...09032003En.pdf Their enthusiast product actually feature 2 GPU on a single PCB board. That is what we are looking for... duo GPU, dual the fun! For the first time in gaming history, you can harness the brute force of true, dual GPUs on a single, DX9 Compliant board. Volari Duo takes on the task of graphics processing with twice the firepower of other graphics cards, blowing away 3D benchmark challenges like a pair of 9 millimeters. Enjoy the crisp clarity of independent frame rendering with a stunning increase in overall yield that will redefine what people expect from a GPU. With an amazing 16 pipelines linked through a proprietary new bridge protocol, Volariâ„¢ Duo unleashes an avalanche of processing power that will leave the competition out in the cold. True Hardware DirectX9 Both Volari Duo processors employ XGIâ€™s next generation TruShaderâ„¢ 2.1 Engine, taking vertex and pixel shading to a new level of realism. Combine this with built-in DirectX9 programmability and highly efficient pixel pipelines, 3D environments now come alive with cinematic realism and movie-studio caliber graphics. Advanced developers can take advantage of the Volari Duo processorâ€™s fully programmable DirectX9 functions to deliver visual experiences never before seen on the PC. Volari Duo Volariâ„¢ Duo V8 Ultra Specifications Blazing-fast PCI Bus Interface - 32-bit PCI local bus standard Revision 2.2 compliant - True AGP2.0 & AGP3.0 Compliant configuration setting - Hardware auto detect for AGP1.0, AGP2.0 or AGP3.0 mode support Double Octa-pipe 3D Engine - Extreme High performance 256-bit 3D engine - High order surface tessellation - Optimized hardware geometry transform/lighting/setup engine - Total of 4 units of Vertex Shader with Fully compliant Direct3D 9.0 Vertex Shader ver. 2.0 - Total of 8 sets of Pixel Shader (2.0) with Fully compliant Direct3D 9.0 Pixel Shader ver. 2.0 - 16 sets high performance pixel rendering pipelines - Supports Bump Mapping, Mipmapped Cubic Mapping and Volume Texture supports flat and Gouraud shading - High quality anisotropic filtering - Supports 2-side stencil. - 2X/4X full scene anti-aliasing(FSAA) Ultimate Performance 2D Engine - Hardware command queue - High-speed Direct Draw Accelerator - Hardware GDI 2000 Accelerator - Source read-buffer to minimize engine wait-state - Built-in destination read-buffer to minimize engine wait-state High Definition TV-OUT Solution with XV301 - PAL and NTSC Systems. - Composite, S-Video, and Component RGB Output Signals - Macrovision Copy Protection Process Rev. 7.1.L1 - HDTV 480i/480p/1080i/720p YPbPr Output Signals. - A single link TMDS transmitter with excellent scaling capability for TFT LCD panel display MPEG-2 Video Decoder - MPEG-2 MP@ML standards compliant - Supports up to 20 Mbit/sec bit rate decoding - True hardware VCD, DVD and HDTV decoding Video Accelerator - YUV-to-RGB color space conversion - Bi-linear video interpolation with integer increments of 1/2048 - Complete graphics and video overlay function - Hardware video decoder interface - Independent VBI capture - Supports DVD sub-picture playback overlay - Built-in independent Gamma correction RAM Proprietary Cipher Video Processor - 5 fields per-pixel motion detection de-interlace function, video sources from MPEG decoder, Video capture and AVI interfaces. - Down scaling function and scaling vector as 1/2, 1/4. - Next generation de-interlaced and 1/2 down scaling function. Display Memory Interface - Supports DDR SDRAM, DDR-II SDRAM type to 256M Bytes memory BitFluent Architecture (XGI Volari Duo Only) - Advanced interface for dual GPU solution - Up to 2.13GB bus bandwidth High Integration - Programmable 24-bit true-color RAMDAC up to 400 MHz pixel clock - Built-in VIP interface - VESA Plug & Display for PanelLink Interface - Built-in Thermal Diode for GPU Security-Update Miscellaneous - Supports 32K/64K/128K Bytes ROM decoding - Supports 20MHz SPI ROM interface 1140-balls 37.5mm x 37.5mm FC-BGA package http://www.xgitech.com __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 16, 2003, 04:06 AM	#2
Shadow Lady Avril Fan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotÃ¡ city :p Posts: 1,262 Rep Power: 0	this is no ATI -.- menain, wrong forum dude __________________ Oblivion ftw

Sep 16, 2003, 04:16 AM	#3
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	woah! What is this? Who are they? What???!!! __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 16, 2003, 04:25 AM	#4
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Is this the first anyone has heard of this? __________________

Sep 16, 2003, 04:47 AM	#11
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	Yeah more competition would be good but umm this is from their site also Volariâ„¢ Duo V8 Ultra Specifications . . . BitFluent Architecture (XGI Volari Duo Only) - Advanced interface for dual GPU solution - Up to 2.13GB bus bandwidth Doesn't the 9800Pro have like 24Gb/s? Is this the same thing? I don't know but more competition would be great, lower prices! They're supposedly releasing at comdex, hope they have more to show/offer than DeltaChrome __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 16, 2003, 04:58 AM	#12
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Maybe they meant the first DX9 dual GPU- But I have to be skeptical when they start out by making huge claims about being the biggest, fastest, most efficient, etc.... When they start out with a bunch of half-truths and outright lies, it's hard to take anything they say seriously. I hope the best for them, it would be good for everyone if they could back up the claims.. But we will see. __________________

Sep 16, 2003, 06:33 AM	Thread Starter #13
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	Well, talents can be pulled from other companies. I hope that we are not too particular with company names. Consumers always wanted quality and priced rightly products. We should always be open to innovations. __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 16, 2003, 08:46 AM	Thread Starter #18
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	haha.. i cannot say anything about the performance, I am not related to the gfx or company in any way. Just say "we will wait and see" I am sure someone will be very keen to benchmark it. Just watch and see.... __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 16, 2003, 09:04 AM	#21
mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	Well guys lets just wait and see, so far it looks good on paper, but so did the nv fx and look what that turn out to be, like i said time will tell. __________________

Sep 16, 2003, 10:05 AM	Thread Starter #23
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	Gosh, u are just plain pessimistic about it. Think we should drop this discussionm, yea? __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 16, 2003, 10:12 AM	#25
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Yah, but on paper they always look good, Parhelia comes to mind.. That said, by making things on paper, it seems you can make a living out of it So yeah lets wait for the gaming results, I just don't beliefe Benchmarks anymore.

Sep 16, 2003, 10:23 AM	Thread Starter #26
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	well, benchmarks are still something to look for. Those cheats have little difference.... __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 16, 2003, 10:34 AM	#27
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	It will definitely be interesting! __________________

Sep 16, 2003, 03:48 PM	#28
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Lets hope it's more than just vapourware - a 3rd player would certainly help to keep Nvidia and ATI honest on the price-performance issues. The number of players have certainly shrunk since the dawn of 3d Graphics. S3 are still there - though only as embedded onboards in VIA chipsets, with no real 3d power. ATI and Nvidia - the only two names these days, it seems? Matrox? http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/c...s_parhelia.cfm - they skipped DX7 hardware altogether, and are always thought of as high priced. Anyone else still current?