Will Matrox make an all new GPU or VPU in 2003?

UberLord · May 24, 2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by DSOTM
IBut no, I won't embarass the Administrator...i might get banned from yet another site

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Excuse me while i go wet myself

Still haven't got out of nappies yet Darkie

UberLord · May 24, 2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by DSOTM
According to the specs, the P. should have destroyed my 9700 Pro, but when Uber came to visit us lonely leftovers he was horribly shocked. And then he had his memory woes, but that's another story (and I'll let him tell it )

I already told it

DSOTM · May 24, 2003, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by UberLord
I already told it

Yeah...hmmmm......what about the second and the third ?

DSOTM · May 24, 2003, 02:28 PM

When the hell did u turn miserable anyway ?

Seems to me like you need some IRC style abuse, or a right good argument with me (which u'll lose as usual

) or maybe you need to dig out that UT CD and drop in for a kickabout.

UberLord · May 24, 2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by DSOTM
Yeah...hmmmm......what about the second and the third ?

You mean when the 2nd Parhelia failed after 2 months and the 9700 pro also died after 3 months - all cards having the same problem?

UberLord · May 24, 2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by DSOTM
When the hell did u turn miserable anyway ?

Seems to me like you need some IRC style abuse, or a right good argument with me (which u'll lose as usual ) or maybe you need to dig out that UT CD and drop in for a kickabout.

Miserable? where did you get that idea

I won't be available for IRC abuse unless it's during the afernoon sat or sun as I prefer spending time with the GF instead of playing on the 'net these days. Besides, I'm still awaiting the 9800 pro 256 meg card in the UK before I can play UT again - my laptop plays UT ~3fps

amuro · May 25, 2003, 12:27 AM

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Unfortunately, they had a chance of a "comback" with the Parhelia, but it didn't come off at all.

I gotta say that even thought they had a "chance" ATI had already shown the 9700 at E3 last year, unless I am wrong so more than likely Matrox must have gone into panic knowing what ATI was eventually bringing to the table.

But we cannot change history and Impeach the president of Matrox before making the Parhelia, all we have to do is wait and see what is gonna happen although it will be a depressing wait.

Today ATI is king and Nvidia is cheating and lying, Matrox is going backwards and Creative Labs is trying to sneak into the backdoor of the midrange gamer market with a Dx8.1 card, the Sis/Trident/S3/Intel efforts do not count, Bitboys are MIA vaporware and 3dFX is still dead.

UberLord · May 25, 2003, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by amuro
Today ATI is king and Nvidia is cheating and lying, Matrox is going backwards and Creative Labs is trying to sneak into the backdoor of the midrange gamer market with a Dx8.1 card, the Sis/Trident/S3/Intel efforts do not count, Bitboys are MIA vaporware and 3dFX is still dead.

Don't forget about PowerVR - they're working on a new card

Vampyromaniac · May 26, 2003, 04:04 AM

will it have T&L?

amuro · May 26, 2003, 09:59 AM

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Don't forget about PowerVR - they're working on a new card

Well to quote Home Simpson: one big and loud DO'H

I knew about the new PowerVR and even read up on it one of the tech websites but it slipped my mind to mention them.

But at least no matter what PowerVR counts too, I just hope that they can avoid a Matrox curse and at least come up with a fully Hardware T&L, Dx9/OpenGL 1.3 or 2.0 card, at least something in the mid end that can be very decent and respectfull for the price.

UberLord · May 27, 2003, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
will it have T&L?

Kyro chips (PVR series 3) proved that you don't need on-chip T&L when it can be software emulated given a decent CPU.
Seeing as fixed T&L has been superseeded by PS/VS implementations and it's been stated that the new card will have this - hardware T&L is going to be a non-issue

Stormy Waters · Jul 14, 2003, 02:17 PM

I had G400 32mb in a machine at one time and it was a killer card, dual head was alot of fun but when I linked 3 monitors up (pci graphics card) it was a ton of fun. Like most of you Matrox loyalists when we found out about the new card we were hopin for it to be the next G400 and to carry us into the next realm. Unfortually it was a large flop, the gaming people didn't give it good reviews because of it's slow clock speed. It's price detured the market away from it. and over all it was a cool card with some cool features but it lacked it where it needed it the most. Hopefully someday soon i'll have some dollars saved up and i'll buy the G400 pci and run 3 head again (3 head is alot better than 2, for any dual head person, ok messages and what not get really annoying half on one screen and half on the other).

anyways my $0.02

R.I.P. Matrox - you were always my favorite

~~HawK~~ · Jul 14, 2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by amuro
Well to quote Home Simpson: one big and loud DO'H

I knew about the new PowerVR and even read up on it one of the tech websites but it slipped my mind to mention them.

But at least no matter what PowerVR counts too, I just hope that they can avoid a Matrox curse and at least come up with a fully Hardware T&L, Dx9/OpenGL 1.3 or 2.0 card, at least something in the mid end that can be very decent and respectfull for the price.

As far as I can tell, series5 wil be a very nice upper/mid range card
here are some "roumours", but we will just have to wait and see

please don't ask me more because I'm not allowed to give any info 'bout it...

ZzzombieBunny · Jul 14, 2003, 03:18 PM

Ive read statements by Matrox that they are "happy" with their 2-3% of the graphics market (or whatever % it is... probably below 5%) and arent excatly aiming to join the battle with ATI and Nvidia... I think they are creating future cards more for the office kinda market rather than home gaming...

amuro · Oct 7, 2003, 01:37 AM

well technically the majority of businesses run 2d based desktop work so Matrox is all set for now.

Still the Parhelia is powerfull enough to run Jedi Knight II in triple monitor mode and I even heard that it can do Halo in triple monitor mode too.

May 26, 2003, 04:04 AM	#39
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Jul 14, 2003, 02:17 PM	#42
Stormy Waters DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Ahh Memories I had G400 32mb in a machine at one time and it was a killer card, dual head was alot of fun but when I linked 3 monitors up (pci graphics card) it was a ton of fun. Like most of you Matrox loyalists when we found out about the new card we were hopin for it to be the next G400 and to carry us into the next realm. Unfortually it was a large flop, the gaming people didn't give it good reviews because of it's slow clock speed. It's price detured the market away from it. and over all it was a cool card with some cool features but it lacked it where it needed it the most. Hopefully someday soon i'll have some dollars saved up and i'll buy the G400 pci and run 3 head again (3 head is alot better than 2, for any dual head person, ok messages and what not get really annoying half on one screen and half on the other). anyways my $0.02 R.I.P. Matrox - you were always my favorite

Oct 7, 2003, 01:37 AM	Thread Starter #45
amuro DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 147 Rep Power: 0	well technically the majority of businesses run 2d based desktop work so Matrox is all set for now. Still the Parhelia is powerfull enough to run Jedi Knight II in triple monitor mode and I even heard that it can do Halo in triple monitor mode too. __________________ Intel PIII 1Ghz Slot 1 Intel VC820 P18 Bios 133Mhz FSB 256 PC600 ECC RDRAM Matrox G400 Max 32MB SGRAM AGP4X Rev A modded for AGP 4X enabled Official Matrox Bios update Default Matrox clock speed Win98 SE DirectX6.1a XBox Tech Specs: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1561&p=1

May 24, 2003, 02:28 PM	#34
DSOTM DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	When the hell did u turn miserable anyway ? Seems to me like you need some IRC style abuse, or a right good argument with me (which u'll lose as usual ) or maybe you need to dig out that UT CD and drop in for a kickabout.

Jul 14, 2003, 03:18 PM	#44
ZzzombieBunny Cake or Death? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Ive read statements by Matrox that they are "happy" with their 2-3% of the graphics market (or whatever % it is... probably below 5%) and arent excatly aiming to join the battle with ATI and Nvidia... I think they are creating future cards more for the office kinda market rather than home gaming...