XP2000 won't clock past 1750 on NF7(non S)

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 05:12 AM

Ahtlon XP 2000, AGOIA, Palamino. What the hell.... I can run it at 200x8.5 for 1700mhz. I have seen it go to 1750 but be unstable. I have tried nearly EVERY voltage (CPU, AGP, NB, Vcore). EVERY multiplier. All the ram timings (kept them slow to OC) My temps are 30-35C and never higher, even in the bios. What am I missing out on? I disabled APIC (or whatever that stuff is that most of you have to disable) and XP won't boot. I've fiddled with everything that I can imagine changing. I can't get it over 1700 and stable. I know this CPU can put out more....... Why won't it though?

ToshiroOC · Jan 28, 2003, 05:15 AM

Y'know, not every processor can really go that high... though it is a bit off for an AGOIA to only get up to what my AGKGA is managing, not all processors are made alike, and you may have just been the unlucky one... OH, and DriveEuro, I think I'm passing your post count with this post here. YAY!

(j/k)

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 05:16 AM

Well, I knew that they weren't all alike. I'm not dumb. But still... AGOIA stepping. A great overclocking motherboard. WHY THE HELL CAN'T I SQUEEZE OUT MORE THAN 33 mhz and be stable?

WarGun · Jan 28, 2003, 06:10 AM

PSU.. RAM.. Hard drive...All kinds of stuff can hold you back, i see your PSU is a Generic brand, could be that?

ToshiroOC · Jan 28, 2003, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Well, I knew that they weren't all alike. I'm not dumb. But still... AGOIA stepping. A great overclocking motherboard. WHY THE HELL CAN'T I SQUEEZE OUT MORE THAN 33 mhz and be stable?

I didn't mean to insult your intelligence, and if I did, I apologize. What I meant to say is that even though you may have an AGOIA, it might be an exceptionally bad one, one perhaps with some aberations from the litho and one from the edge of the wafer where there are more errors (if I understand correctly)... maybe there is one miniscule 20 molecule error in that enormous (relativlely) slab of silicon and it's bugging something important up when you are trying to overclock... not all chips are created alike, and you really can't expect ANY overclocking overhead from any one particular chip - you can only hope that it lives up to, at least, the average overclock that others have been getting...

ToshiroOC

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 06:18 AM

Well, I knew you weren't insulting me and didn't take it as an insult.... But come on.....just 33 mhz ....? this is pathetic.... I have a great overclocking motherbaord.......

ToshiroOC · Jan 28, 2003, 06:24 AM

All it would take is a few molecules off here and there and you would get terrible stability at even mildly increased speeds, regardless of which stepping... though I can see where you are coming from, its simply an unfortunate happening, but one that is most probably unrectifiable...

WyreTheWolf · Jan 28, 2003, 06:27 AM

try 166x10.5 does that work? Just a thought...

WarGun · Jan 28, 2003, 06:29 AM

That is also very true.. when it comes to overclocking theres no garanties.

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 06:35 AM

No it doesn't work WOLF...... Like I said.... I tried this for about 1.5-2 hours on Monday and like 1 hour on saturday.

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 06:38 AM

The highest I have gotten so far was 203 x 8.5 and that wasn't really too stable. About half of the time I was running it 3Dmark would close. So basically I was only 50% stable.... Kinda sucked.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 28, 2003, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
No it doesn't work WOLF...... Like I said.... I tried this for about 1.5-2 hours on Monday and like 1 hour on saturday.

excuse me...

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 04:10 PM

What? I was trying to be mean if you took it that way. Why did you say "excuse me."

WyreTheWolf · Jan 28, 2003, 06:02 PM

as in excuse me... it appears that I have upset you... so please eexcuse me for doing so...

DriveEuro · Jan 28, 2003, 06:42 PM

You didn't upset me whatsoever..... It's just annoying cuz I can't get it over 1750......

DaSnIpE · Jan 28, 2003, 10:57 PM

If your FSB is high you really can't pump the mhz, try like a higher multi and less FSB for your Mhz, however 203 FSB is nice, nforce2 or not. I'm getting an Epox 8RDA so I'll see what my AGOIA Y 2100+ can do as well.

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 01:33 AM

But I have dropped the FSB.... I have dropped it around 133 x 13..... (would run stable no matter what voltage)....166 x 10.5 wasn't stable...... Nothing is stable around 1750.... I can't figure it out. I'm not dumb with this either.... It's just aggrivating.. I don't want my XP2000 to be one of those crappy overclockers....

DaSnIpE · Jan 29, 2003, 04:28 AM

I'm feeling your pain.

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 04:40 AM

Well, good news..... at least for better overall performance. Got it running 212 x 8 = 1700mhz....

Jan 28, 2003, 05:12 AM	#1
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	XP2000 won't clock past 1750 on NF7(non S) Ahtlon XP 2000, AGOIA, Palamino. What the hell.... I can run it at 200x8.5 for 1700mhz. I have seen it go to 1750 but be unstable. I have tried nearly EVERY voltage (CPU, AGP, NB, Vcore). EVERY multiplier. All the ram timings (kept them slow to OC) My temps are 30-35C and never higher, even in the bios. What am I missing out on? I disabled APIC (or whatever that stuff is that most of you have to disable) and XP won't boot. I've fiddled with everything that I can imagine changing. I can't get it over 1700 and stable. I know this CPU can put out more....... Why won't it though? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 05:15 AM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Y'know, not every processor can really go that high... though it is a bit off for an AGOIA to only get up to what my AGKGA is managing, not all processors are made alike, and you may have just been the unlucky one... OH, and DriveEuro, I think I'm passing your post count with this post here. YAY! (j/k) __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 28, 2003, 05:16 AM	Thread Starter #3
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, I knew that they weren't all alike. I'm not dumb. But still... AGOIA stepping. A great overclocking motherboard. WHY THE HELL CAN'T I SQUEEZE OUT MORE THAN 33 mhz and be stable? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 06:18 AM	Thread Starter #6
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, I knew you weren't insulting me and didn't take it as an insult.... But come on.....just 33 mhz ....? this is pathetic.... I have a great overclocking motherbaord....... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 06:24 AM	#7
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	All it would take is a few molecules off here and there and you would get terrible stability at even mildly increased speeds, regardless of which stepping... though I can see where you are coming from, its simply an unfortunate happening, but one that is most probably unrectifiable... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 28, 2003, 06:10 AM	#4
WarGun DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	PSU.. RAM.. Hard drive...All kinds of stuff can hold you back, i see your PSU is a Generic brand, could be that?

Jan 28, 2003, 06:27 AM	#8
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	try 166x10.5 does that work? Just a thought...

Jan 28, 2003, 06:29 AM	#9
WarGun DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	That is also very true.. when it comes to overclocking theres no garanties.

Jan 28, 2003, 06:35 AM	Thread Starter #10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	No it doesn't work WOLF...... Like I said.... I tried this for about 1.5-2 hours on Monday and like 1 hour on saturday. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 06:38 AM	Thread Starter #11
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	The highest I have gotten so far was 203 x 8.5 and that wasn't really too stable. About half of the time I was running it 3Dmark would close. So basically I was only 50% stable.... Kinda sucked. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 04:10 PM	Thread Starter #13
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	What? I was trying to be mean if you took it that way. Why did you say "excuse me." __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 06:02 PM	#14
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	as in excuse me... it appears that I have upset you... so please eexcuse me for doing so...

Jan 28, 2003, 06:42 PM	Thread Starter #15
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	You didn't upset me whatsoever..... It's just annoying cuz I can't get it over 1750...... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 28, 2003, 10:57 PM	#16
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	If your FSB is high you really can't pump the mhz, try like a higher multi and less FSB for your Mhz, however 203 FSB is nice, nforce2 or not. I'm getting an Epox 8RDA so I'll see what my AGOIA Y 2100+ can do as well. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 29, 2003, 01:33 AM	Thread Starter #17
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	But I have dropped the FSB.... I have dropped it around 133 x 13..... (would run stable no matter what voltage)....166 x 10.5 wasn't stable...... Nothing is stable around 1750.... I can't figure it out. I'm not dumb with this either.... It's just aggrivating.. I don't want my XP2000 to be one of those crappy overclockers.... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 04:28 AM	#18
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	I'm feeling your pain. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 29, 2003, 04:40 AM	Thread Starter #19
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, good news..... at least for better overall performance. Got it running 212 x 8 = 1700mhz.... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024