newegg xp2100 b just arrived...

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 07:32 PM

AIUHB 0248
9

Just popped it in me kx7-333 rev 1.0 mobo using latest b6 BIOS. Defaulted to 1500Mhz on boot up. Tried setting 12.5x133 and no POST. cleared cmos and set it to highest >=13x133 and here I sit at 1730Mhz... Voltage is at 1.60 default and my ax7 has dropped 5c from 37c to 32c. Previous chip was lovely xp1700 AGOIA "4" that ran up around 1760Mhz @ 1.75v that stayed at 37c idle...

back in a bit with some scores

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 08:05 PM

CPU and Mem bench

3dmark

all stock settings

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 08:37 PM

3dmark

CPU & wcpuid

MEM & MBM5

had to up vcore to 1.65 and cost me 2c on my temps.... now up to a whopping 34c

But sitting pretty at 2160Mhz

And woooohooooo!!! just broke 2G for me first time

Quite a bargain so far for $92 shipped

RIV@NVX · Jan 30, 2003, 08:49 PM

Nice scores... I am going to unlock my 1600+ AGOIA-9 this weekend, so I will do some serious OC-ing too.

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 09:02 PM

175x13 CPU & Mem bench

175x13 3dmark & wcpuid & mbm5

Had to up vcore to 1.75 and my idle is now up to 37c but I think I can live with that

2300 was/is my goal so I'd get that at 177x13. Though I think 180 is me next jump... bbs

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 09:30 PM

180X13 cpu and mem bench

180x13 3dmark wcpuid & mbm5

had to up vcore to max at 1.85 to get 3dmark to finish at 180 fsb. Also cost me a few more degrees as I'm now up to 39c idle. Not sure how much more I can get without a volt mod. Don't think she'll give up 185x13 for me..

But still, not bad at all considering the $92 price tag

Think she's a keeper

ToshiroOC · Jan 30, 2003, 09:32 PM

Congrats shuki! Damn good showing! What cooling are you using (sorry if you already said this)? Damn nice OC... but don't forget to use that idling power to do Seti@home! Join the DH team

shuki · Jan 30, 2003, 09:44 PM

AIR cooling... thermalright AX7 baby

Though I think the show is over

185 fsb won't give me windows and 183fsb crashes to desktop during 3dmark. I know my rig will do 200+fsb as I've had all parts in it running it before. Now I have the r9700 who's MAX fsb is 188 so I know it's not it crashing at 183. Has to be the new xp2100b. Still, my goal was 2300Hmz out of her and I've got that

Man went up from me r8500 to an r9700 ($100 after ebaying my Ti4200) and an xp1700 @ 1760Mhz to an xp2100 ($92 shipped) @ 2344. All in all, a good week

ToshiroOC · Jan 30, 2003, 09:46 PM

I'm going to stare dolefully at my video card and paint my hard drive coolers black - one of those ought to get me over 4000 3dmarks

JavaFox · Jan 30, 2003, 11:10 PM

Toshiro, print these two images out and tape them to the side of your case! They should add like 500MHz and improve your 3DMark score by 5000 or so.

ToshiroOC · Jan 30, 2003, 11:36 PM

Wait, you mean I have to print em out? I thought setting a NOS background was enough to add 1000 3dmarks

DriveEuro · Jan 31, 2003, 01:24 AM

These are the CPUs that can do 2.6 easy on air... 2.9 on Promethia.

ToshiroOC · Jan 31, 2003, 01:33 AM

Obviously these can't do 2.6 easily on air, seeing as how shuki didn't get 2.6

However, this is the same stepping that was up to 2.9 recently with some crazy guy...

DriveEuro · Jan 31, 2003, 01:36 AM

Oh, well the guy that hit 2.9 on promethia had AIUHB (or something like that stepping) and he hit 2.6 on air.

ToshiroOC · Jan 31, 2003, 01:38 AM

Well, some processors are damn good, others are good, and others suck - all depends on the luck of the draw...

DriveEuro · Jan 31, 2003, 01:47 AM

Speaking of... I guess it aint my processor that sucks like we all thought. I have to disable APIC in windows and in the bios then I should be able to overclock it VERY well.

edit: Well, that didn't help me out for shit. I guess that I just got a bad XP2000. Bad as in it won't overclock for shit. So I'm thinking about buying one of those T-Bred 2100s..... Seriously. Fatass overclock.

shuki · Jan 31, 2003, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
These are the CPUs that can do 2.6 easy on air... 2.9 on Promethia.

if you consider volt modding your mobo and running mr. xp2100 b @ 2.27vcore then yeah, I suppose that's "easy to do 2.6 on air with these chips"...

It's never just as "easy" as it sounds as you're experiencing with your palamino

The people that are running a 1.85vcore are hitting the wall right about where I am (2350-2400)...
2.6 on air

DriveEuro · Jan 31, 2003, 06:10 AM

I'm gonna buy one right now I think. XP2100 here I come!

shuki · Jan 31, 2003, 06:13 AM

see my edit post 2 above this one on the big 2600 OC. And driveeuro, toshiro is right, even with same stepping (though now newegg is shipping 0103 hitting ~ 2250Mhz) it does NOT, in no way, mean you'll get same results as someone else with identical stepping. Ask anyone that has been OCing for any amount of time and they will tell you that. It really is the luck of the draw

DriveEuro · Jan 31, 2003, 06:15 AM

Yeah, I got that. But it has to overclock better than this crapass XP2000.

edit: Am I a dork? I just bought one....

edit #2: Shuki? Your links don't work anymore. Your service doesn't support public linking.

shuki · Jan 31, 2003, 10:00 AM

well that blows

guess I'll just have to post the url...

RIV@NVX · Jan 31, 2003, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ToshiroOC
Well, some processors are damn good, others are good, and others suck - all depends on the luck of the draw...

Everything in life depends on the luck of the draw - not only the processors...

sacrilius · Jan 31, 2003, 08:59 PM

Just got my 2100XP how should I set my BIOS using the listed MOBO.

ToshiroOC · Jan 31, 2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Everything in life depends on the luck of the draw - not only the processors...

Only one thing - taxes don't depend on the luck of the draw, they depend on your creativity on your return forms

shuki · Jan 31, 2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacrilius
Just got my 2100XP how should I set my BIOS using the listed MOBO.

for starters, you will get the best help by starting your own thread. this one is already pretty much dead and archived and I think you would get more help if you start fresh

after that, I would:
1. make sure I had the latest BIOS
2. power down pc, clear CMOS, unplug power cord and press power button to discharge any remaining juice.
3. remove old cpu
4. insert new xp2100
5. reapply as3 properly
6. reconnect power cord
7. clear BIOS again just to be sure
8. Power up into BIOS and set to 133x13
9 F10 and get to windows.
10 Use mbm5 to monitor your temps and see that all is well with your new install. if so, after 5 or 10 minutes, restart to BIOS and check for other multi options. Try 12x133 or 15x124. see if it boots up or hangs at POST.

sacrilius · Jan 31, 2003, 09:20 PM

Thanks shuki I'll try that.

MSX · Jan 31, 2003, 10:28 PM

Yeah. I had a celeron 300mhz in the first computer I built. (Cause it was cheap!) I could easilly get it up to 500mhz... with air, 1 fan on the case, it sat at 21ºC. So it really just depends...

I dont OC much anymore due to my last athalon 900mhz that could barely break the 1Ghz mark. Hmm, wonder what my new one can do sometimes...

DaSnIpE · Feb 1, 2003, 04:42 AM

Nice clocks, I've seen them newegg tbred B's hit 2.9 Ghz and stuff 2, hehe, I'm seriously thinking of one, as I just got a 8RDA 2day, hehehe.

AlternateVirus · Feb 1, 2003, 10:03 AM

even tho most tbred 2100+ b can oc to 2.4ghz easliy that stilil impressive considering the first A cant even go pass 2.0ghz. Now you have to remember that there are no two same processors. They all have different oc ablitiy. Also i would have to say your mobo can hold your oc back. I seen many oced to 2.6 easily with a simple vcore increase without vmod.

shuki · Feb 3, 2003, 11:46 AM

well worked some magic (and an hsf mod on the r9700 GPU

) and am now up to 12.5x190. Before the hsf mod, couldn't go over 180 so squeezed out an extra 10 fsb. Not sure how it would handle it at locked 13x multi but I had already unlocked the chip now and don't feel like tearing it down to find out. So as it sits now I'm at 190x12.5 on:
xp2100 b AIUHB "9" 0248
kx7-333 rev 1.0
2x256 samsung pc2700 most agressive timings (2-6-2-1T command rate)
r9700 pro 325/310

15,582 3dmark

CPU and Mem bench

Jan 30, 2003, 07:32 PM	#1
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	newegg xp2100 b just arrived... AIUHB 0248 9 Just popped it in me kx7-333 rev 1.0 mobo using latest b6 BIOS. Defaulted to 1500Mhz on boot up. Tried setting 12.5x133 and no POST. cleared cmos and set it to highest >=13x133 and here I sit at 1730Mhz... Voltage is at 1.60 default and my ax7 has dropped 5c from 37c to 32c. Previous chip was lovely xp1700 AGOIA "4" that ran up around 1760Mhz @ 1.75v that stayed at 37c idle... back in a bit with some scores

Jan 30, 2003, 08:05 PM	Thread Starter #2
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	CPU and Mem bench 3dmark all stock settings Last edited by shuki; Jan 31, 2003 at 10:03 AM.

Jan 30, 2003, 08:37 PM	Thread Starter #3
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	3dmark CPU & wcpuid MEM & MBM5 had to up vcore to 1.65 and cost me 2c on my temps.... now up to a whopping 34c But sitting pretty at 2160Mhz And woooohooooo!!! just broke 2G for me first time Quite a bargain so far for $92 shipped Last edited by shuki; Jan 31, 2003 at 10:10 AM.

Jan 30, 2003, 08:49 PM	#4
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Nice scores... I am going to unlock my 1600+ AGOIA-9 this weekend, so I will do some serious OC-ing too. __________________ -- Vedran

Jan 30, 2003, 09:02 PM	Thread Starter #5
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	2280Mhz woot 175x13 CPU & Mem bench 175x13 3dmark & wcpuid & mbm5 Had to up vcore to 1.75 and my idle is now up to 37c but I think I can live with that 2300 was/is my goal so I'd get that at 177x13. Though I think 180 is me next jump... bbs Last edited by shuki; Jan 31, 2003 at 10:14 AM.

Jan 30, 2003, 09:30 PM	Thread Starter #6
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	180X13 cpu and mem bench 180x13 3dmark wcpuid & mbm5 had to up vcore to max at 1.85 to get 3dmark to finish at 180 fsb. Also cost me a few more degrees as I'm now up to 39c idle. Not sure how much more I can get without a volt mod. Don't think she'll give up 185x13 for me.. But still, not bad at all considering the $92 price tag Think she's a keeper Last edited by shuki; Jan 31, 2003 at 10:16 AM.

Jan 30, 2003, 09:32 PM	#7
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Congrats shuki! Damn good showing! What cooling are you using (sorry if you already said this)? Damn nice OC... but don't forget to use that idling power to do Seti@home! Join the DH team __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 30, 2003, 09:44 PM	Thread Starter #8
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	AIR cooling... thermalright AX7 baby Though I think the show is over 185 fsb won't give me windows and 183fsb crashes to desktop during 3dmark. I know my rig will do 200+fsb as I've had all parts in it running it before. Now I have the r9700 who's MAX fsb is 188 so I know it's not it crashing at 183. Has to be the new xp2100b. Still, my goal was 2300Hmz out of her and I've got that Man went up from me r8500 to an r9700 ($100 after ebaying my Ti4200) and an xp1700 @ 1760Mhz to an xp2100 ($92 shipped) @ 2344. All in all, a good week Last edited by shuki; Jan 30, 2003 at 10:01 PM.

Jan 30, 2003, 09:46 PM	#9
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I'm going to stare dolefully at my video card and paint my hard drive coolers black - one of those ought to get me over 4000 3dmarks __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 30, 2003, 11:10 PM	#10
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Toshiro, print these two images out and tape them to the side of your case! They should add like 500MHz and improve your 3DMark score by 5000 or so.

Jan 30, 2003, 11:36 PM	#11
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Wait, you mean I have to print em out? I thought setting a NOS background was enough to add 1000 3dmarks __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 31, 2003, 01:24 AM	#12
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	These are the CPUs that can do 2.6 easy on air... 2.9 on Promethia. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 31, 2003, 01:33 AM	#13
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Obviously these can't do 2.6 easily on air, seeing as how shuki didn't get 2.6 However, this is the same stepping that was up to 2.9 recently with some crazy guy... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 31, 2003, 01:36 AM	#14
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Oh, well the guy that hit 2.9 on promethia had AIUHB (or something like that stepping) and he hit 2.6 on air. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 31, 2003, 01:38 AM	#15
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, some processors are damn good, others are good, and others suck - all depends on the luck of the draw... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 31, 2003, 08:59 PM	#23
sacrilius Evil Je$ter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA. Born in Brooklyn, NY Posts: 127 Rep Power: 0	Just got my 2100XP how should I set my BIOS using the listed MOBO. __________________ ASUS A7N8X E Deluxe MOBO Rev. 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3200+ ATI Radeon 128MB DDR 9800 Pro Ultra MEMORY 1.5GB PC-3200/400MHz WD Raptor 36GBX2 SiI Raid 0 & WD 40GB HD Windows XP Pro SP2 Corporate

Jan 31, 2003, 01:47 AM	#16
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Speaking of... I guess it aint my processor that sucks like we all thought. I have to disable APIC in windows and in the bios then I should be able to overclock it VERY well. edit: Well, that didn't help me out for shit. I guess that I just got a bad XP2000. Bad as in it won't overclock for shit. So I'm thinking about buying one of those T-Bred 2100s..... Seriously. Fatass overclock. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024 Last edited by DriveEuro; Jan 31, 2003 at 06:09 AM.

Jan 31, 2003, 06:10 AM	#18
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I'm gonna buy one right now I think. XP2100 here I come! __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 31, 2003, 06:13 AM	Thread Starter #19
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	see my edit post 2 above this one on the big 2600 OC. And driveeuro, toshiro is right, even with same stepping (though now newegg is shipping 0103 hitting ~ 2250Mhz) it does NOT, in no way, mean you'll get same results as someone else with identical stepping. Ask anyone that has been OCing for any amount of time and they will tell you that. It really is the luck of the draw

Jan 31, 2003, 06:15 AM	#20
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I got that. But it has to overclock better than this crapass XP2000. edit: Am I a dork? I just bought one.... edit #2: Shuki? Your links don't work anymore. Your service doesn't support public linking. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024 Last edited by DriveEuro; Jan 31, 2003 at 07:02 AM.

Jan 31, 2003, 10:00 AM	Thread Starter #21
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	well that blows guess I'll just have to post the url...

Jan 31, 2003, 09:20 PM	#26
sacrilius Evil Je$ter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA. Born in Brooklyn, NY Posts: 127 Rep Power: 0	Thanks shuki I'll try that. __________________ ASUS A7N8X E Deluxe MOBO Rev. 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3200+ ATI Radeon 128MB DDR 9800 Pro Ultra MEMORY 1.5GB PC-3200/400MHz WD Raptor 36GBX2 SiI Raid 0 & WD 40GB HD Windows XP Pro SP2 Corporate

Jan 31, 2003, 10:28 PM	#27
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Yeah. I had a celeron 300mhz in the first computer I built. (Cause it was cheap!) I could easilly get it up to 500mhz... with air, 1 fan on the case, it sat at 21ºC. So it really just depends... I dont OC much anymore due to my last athalon 900mhz that could barely break the 1Ghz mark. Hmm, wonder what my new one can do sometimes...

Feb 1, 2003, 04:42 AM	#28
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	Nice clocks, I've seen them newegg tbred B's hit 2.9 Ghz and stuff 2, hehe, I'm seriously thinking of one, as I just got a 8RDA 2day, hehehe. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Feb 1, 2003, 10:03 AM	#29
AlternateVirus DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 282 Rep Power: 0	even tho most tbred 2100+ b can oc to 2.4ghz easliy that stilil impressive considering the first A cant even go pass 2.0ghz. Now you have to remember that there are no two same processors. They all have different oc ablitiy. Also i would have to say your mobo can hold your oc back. I seen many oced to 2.6 easily with a simple vcore increase without vmod.

Feb 3, 2003, 11:46 AM	Thread Starter #30
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	190x12.5 well worked some magic (and an hsf mod on the r9700 GPU ) and am now up to 12.5x190. Before the hsf mod, couldn't go over 180 so squeezed out an extra 10 fsb. Not sure how it would handle it at locked 13x multi but I had already unlocked the chip now and don't feel like tearing it down to find out. So as it sits now I'm at 190x12.5 on: xp2100 b AIUHB "9" 0248 kx7-333 rev 1.0 2x256 samsung pc2700 most agressive timings (2-6-2-1T command rate) r9700 pro 325/310 15,582 3dmark CPU and Mem bench Last edited by shuki; Feb 3, 2003 at 06:20 PM.