Artic Silver 3 VS Antec Silver???

Nuke209 · Mar 4, 2003, 09:25 PM

Which is better??? I have both artic silver 3 and antec reference silver thermal compound...and they both look so alike, same bottle and size....any difference though???

~~craig588~~ · Mar 4, 2003, 11:31 PM

artic silver 3 is far better, it uses much smaller particles or silver, giving it better contact.

Nuke209 · Mar 5, 2003, 12:12 AM

are you sure they're not the same stuff??? i'm just wondering

DaSnIpE · Mar 5, 2003, 01:42 AM

Might be the same, I heard about them repacking AS3 under the Antec name :\

JavaFox · Mar 5, 2003, 02:39 AM

I would use Arctic Alumina

phoenixphylok · Mar 5, 2003, 02:52 AM

any metallic thermal grease is MUCH better than thermal paste(yuk). The differences between brands isnt really all that much of a difference. The real difference is in the fact it's silver!

satech2001 · Mar 21, 2003, 08:24 AM

Actually Antec's product is called "Antec reference" and says in little letters that its a silver compound.
But its not really silver...its more or a brownish colour.
Ive been using this stuff lately and my temps are very good.

Im sure either one is pretty good as they both come from well known companies
and not some fake like that of an asian copy that was floating around a while back.

merry · Mar 21, 2003, 10:05 AM

In figures, Arctic Silver 3 has ">9.0 W/mK" (according to specs), while Antec Reference only "8.2 W/mK". This means the Arctic product has better thermal conductivity (it's the one you want).

However, only direct experience with both products will actually tell you which one is better.

Arctic Alumina pulls 4W/mK, much less than any of the above; it is also half the price of AS3. I have read somewhere that AS3 will give you an edge of about 2-3° C over AA, so if you think temperature is not critical, AA could be the choice.

Last but not least, reliability (endurance) is to a thing to consider - none of the specs sais anything on this, and again user experience is the only source of information.

Impulse · Mar 21, 2003, 02:59 PM

Artic Silver 3 > Antec Silver

-={420}=- · Mar 22, 2003, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Impulse
Artic Silver 3 > Antec Silver

Yes
All you people should read this:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as3.htm

BWX · Mar 22, 2003, 12:42 AM

AS3 is the best- people have tested it many times.

Frodo301 · Mar 22, 2003, 04:58 AM

I've still got some Artic Silver II and it's working plenty fine for me. I just don't see the need to upgrade my cpu grease everytime a new type is released that claims it cuts temps two or three more degrees. If it were a substantial decrease in temps then that is different.

BWX · Mar 22, 2003, 06:41 AM

AS2 AND AS3 aren't very far apart, but AS3 is WAY better than the white crud that comes w/ most cpu/mb combos. I can say that from experience. I bought a combo last year, it ran at about 55c w/o O/C'ing, would climb really high when trying to OC at all. I bought some AS3 and followed directions, now my PC runs at 39-40c at stock speed and 42-43c at 1.6 to 1.7ghz Max under load is 46-47c. That is a HUGE difference.

satech2001 · Mar 22, 2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -={420}=-
Yes
All you people should read this:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as3.htm

I hope you didnt mean the antec product?

antec thermal compound

Your link is about a product that was a fake and he was caught...

Necrosis · Mar 22, 2003, 07:45 PM

I still have a tube of the Antec stuff laying around. I've never used any of the AS products just never got around to ordering it. My current heatsink came had a small tube of Artic Aluminuma (Spelling?) and it seems to be working very well so far. The Antec stuff is nice to use if your in a pinch, especially since Best Buy sells it. I haven't been to CompUSA in a long time what do they carry for compound?

~~shai~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 07:57 PM

of course ac3 is the best however if you already have the antec stuff i wouldnt reccomend buying it

-={420}=- · Mar 22, 2003, 11:21 PM

It tells you of both, the real AS3 and the antec fake one.
The most important thing with the arctic silver 3 is to put it on the processor die in 0.003" to 0.005" thickness like so:

It's very important not to use too much (or too little). Detailed instructions can be found here: http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

Erroneus · Mar 23, 2003, 10:16 AM

OCZ has also some thermal paste, and i've seen it beaten AS3 in tests, so this is also to consider, if your going to buy some themal paste. It's called OcZ Ultra Thermal Paste and a test on danish can be found here: http://www.tweakup.dk/article/74/dk/...59d747ddce1e38

BWX · Mar 23, 2003, 10:22 AM

Google does a horrible translation, actually i have never seen google ever do a translation of any use. Anyway, IF it really is better than AS3, why haven't I heard of it anywhere but some Danish site? Where are all the reviews from english speaking sites? I would like to see a product that beats AC3 reviewed by a site I trust (or at least have heard of)..Is there any out there?

-={420}=- · Mar 23, 2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
Google does a horrible translation, actually i have never seen google ever do a translation of any use. Anyway, IF it really is better than AS3, why haven't I heard of it anywhere but some Danish site? Where are all the reviews from english speaking sites? I would like to see a product that beats AC3 reviewed by a site I trust (or at least have heard of)..Is there any out there?

I agree. That site doesn't prove much

Necrosis · Mar 23, 2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -={420}=-
It tells you of both, the real AS3 and the antec fake one.

Antec fake one? There is no Antec fake one. Antec just makes a similar compound.

satech2001 · Mar 23, 2003, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shai
of course ac3 is the best however if you already have the antec stuff i wouldnt reccomend buying it

Actually i do have the Antec stuff and all i can say is that your wrong to assume
that its a fake since your not using it..and i am.

Right now as we speek i am running my Tbred 1800+ @ 1.7v (default 1.6 ),fsb@166 (btw this is an msi board that wont give me anymore without modding) and my temps are 34c cpu 28c system and room temp about 21c

So if this is a fake then i dont know what to say.

Just cause you feel that AS3 is better(maybe in a test it is SLIGHTLY) is not a good enough reason to put down another companies product.....be carefull what you say.

Erroneus · Mar 23, 2003, 08:14 PM

satech2001 you can't make a conclusion because of your current temperature, you have to test the same system with both thermal pastes...it might not be fake, i dont think so, it's antecs thermal paste...i dunno why people claims it to be fake...but because it's silver paste, doesn't automatically makes it as good as AS3

BWX · Mar 23, 2003, 10:58 PM

I heard all about the fake stuff, it was being distributed and sold AS AS3 at trade shows, flee markets, and some computer shops. It was in an UNMARKED tube that was very specific. It wasn't the antec stuff, which I am sure is a very good product.

-={420}=- · Mar 24, 2003, 12:03 AM

Sorry, my mistake. I was trying to say that this:

is fake and not the antec product.
EDIT: Don't take me so seriously. Most of the time I'm stoned.

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 24, 2003, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by satech2001
Actually i do have the Antec stuff and all i can say is that your wrong to assume
that its a fake since your not using it..and i am.

Right now as we speek i am running my Tbred 1800+ @ 1.7v (default 1.6 ),fsb@166 (btw this is an msi board that wont give me anymore without modding) and my temps are 34c cpu 28c system and room temp about 21c

So if this is a fake then i dont know what to say.

Just cause you feel that AS3 is better(maybe in a test it is SLIGHTLY) is not a good enough reason to put down another companies product.....be carefull what you say.

And your point would be?

Im running an XP2200+ at just a smidge under 2600+ speeds......default is 1.65 and im running it at 1.77v with a V9 that is spinning at 4500 RPMs and its at 37-38*C when idle.....and this it hasnt even been up and running a week yet like this.......they recommend a week for running before you will see the full benefits of AS3 and so far every day its been running its average temp has gone down about 1*c so by the time its burned in ill have the same temps as you.

This is not a my penis is bigger than yours competition

and as for the fake comment it had to do with some of the places like conventions and such selling a fake version of arctic silver 3 that didnt even look anything like it. So im not quite sure what youre going on about there but please enlighten us in case I misunderstood.

And if anyone sees this as flaming please let me know and I will modify the post without issue

JCLW · Mar 24, 2003, 07:49 AM

http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

- JW

~~shai~~ · Mar 24, 2003, 12:06 PM

i didnt say it was a fake

BWX · Mar 24, 2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
and as for the fake comment it had to do with some of the places like conventions and such selling a fake version of arctic silver 3 that didnt even look anything like it. So im not quite sure what youre going on about there but please enlighten us in case I misunderstood.

I was supporting the notion that antec was not the fake stuff, as someone misunderstood that what 420 was trying to say is that Antec was fake AS3.

He (420) has also stated that is not what he meant by posting the link about the fake stuff.

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 24, 2003, 11:09 PM

my posting was to satech2001 since he was the one seemingly going off the deepend not meant at anyone else

Mar 4, 2003, 09:25 PM	#1
Nuke209 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Paul Posts: 568 Rep Power: 0	Artic Silver 3 VS Antec Silver??? Which is better??? I have both artic silver 3 and antec reference silver thermal compound...and they both look so alike, same bottle and size....any difference though???

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Mar 5, 2003, 01:42 AM	#4
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Mar 21, 2003, 08:24 AM	#7
satech2001 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	Actually Antec's product is called "Antec reference" and says in little letters that its a silver compound. But its not really silver...its more or a brownish colour. Ive been using this stuff lately and my temps are very good. Im sure either one is pretty good as they both come from well known companies and not some fake like that of an asian copy that was floating around a while back. __________________ [COLOR=red]Intel P4 2.4 @ 3.544 mhz (1.75v)(12x295) [/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]Aircooled with Thermalright Slk-800u+enermax 80mm(3200 rpm)[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Abit IC7 Updated nb cooler (1.6 bios)[/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]TwinMos 2x256 dual channel @ 236 fsb(2.8v) 7-3-3-2.5[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Club3D Radeon 9700pro @ 380/338[/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]Maxtor diamondmax9 8mb cache 80gig[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Case Y-Y cube highly modded[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]best marks so far: 3dm2k3-5994 3dm2k1 19886[/COLOR] My modded case 3Dmark2001se

Mar 21, 2003, 10:05 AM	#8
merry gargouille Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 962 Rep Power: 0	In figures, Arctic Silver 3 has ">9.0 W/mK" (according to specs), while Antec Reference only "8.2 W/mK". This means the Arctic product has better thermal conductivity (it's the one you want). However, only direct experience with both products will actually tell you which one is better. Arctic Alumina pulls 4W/mK, much less than any of the above; it is also half the price of AS3. I have read somewhere that AS3 will give you an edge of about 2-3° C over AA, so if you think temperature is not critical, AA could be the choice. Last but not least, reliability (endurance) is to a thing to consider - none of the specs sais anything on this, and again user experience is the only source of information. __________________ There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't. ~~Leonard Cohen

Mar 4, 2003, 11:31 PM	#2
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	artic silver 3 is far better, it uses much smaller particles or silver, giving it better contact.

Mar 5, 2003, 02:39 AM	#5
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	I would use Arctic Alumina

Mar 5, 2003, 02:52 AM	#6
phoenixphylok Mega-Lurker Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	any metallic thermal grease is MUCH better than thermal paste(yuk). The differences between brands isnt really all that much of a difference. The real difference is in the fact it's silver!

Mar 21, 2003, 02:59 PM	#9
Impulse l33t Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 0	Artic Silver 3 > Antec Silver

Mar 22, 2003, 12:42 AM	#11
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	AS3 is the best- people have tested it many times.

Mar 22, 2003, 04:58 AM	#12
Frodo301 Outraged Join Date: May 2002 Location: The mountains Posts: 584 Rep Power: 0	I've still got some Artic Silver II and it's working plenty fine for me. I just don't see the need to upgrade my cpu grease everytime a new type is released that claims it cuts temps two or three more degrees. If it were a substantial decrease in temps then that is different. __________________ The greatest thing you'll every learn is to love, and be loved in return.

Mar 22, 2003, 06:41 AM	#13
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	AS2 AND AS3 aren't very far apart, but AS3 is WAY better than the white crud that comes w/ most cpu/mb combos. I can say that from experience. I bought a combo last year, it ran at about 55c w/o O/C'ing, would climb really high when trying to OC at all. I bought some AS3 and followed directions, now my PC runs at 39-40c at stock speed and 42-43c at 1.6 to 1.7ghz Max under load is 46-47c. That is a HUGE difference. __________________

Mar 22, 2003, 07:45 PM	#15
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I still have a tube of the Antec stuff laying around. I've never used any of the AS products just never got around to ordering it. My current heatsink came had a small tube of Artic Aluminuma (Spelling?) and it seems to be working very well so far. The Antec stuff is nice to use if your in a pinch, especially since Best Buy sells it. I haven't been to CompUSA in a long time what do they carry for compound? Last edited by Necrosis; Mar 22, 2003 at 08:46 PM.

Mar 22, 2003, 07:57 PM	#16
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	of course ac3 is the best however if you already have the antec stuff i wouldnt reccomend buying it

Mar 22, 2003, 11:21 PM	#17
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	It tells you of both, the real AS3 and the antec fake one. The most important thing with the arctic silver 3 is to put it on the processor die in 0.003" to 0.005" thickness like so: It's very important not to use too much (or too little). Detailed instructions can be found here: http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 23, 2003, 10:16 AM	#18
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,419 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	another great paste OCZ has also some thermal paste, and i've seen it beaten AS3 in tests, so this is also to consider, if your going to buy some themal paste. It's called OcZ Ultra Thermal Paste and a test on danish can be found here: http://www.tweakup.dk/article/74/dk/...59d747ddce1e38 __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 10:22 AM	#19
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Google does a horrible translation, actually i have never seen google ever do a translation of any use. Anyway, IF it really is better than AS3, why haven't I heard of it anywhere but some Danish site? Where are all the reviews from english speaking sites? I would like to see a product that beats AC3 reviewed by a site I trust (or at least have heard of)..Is there any out there? __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 08:14 PM	#23
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,419 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	hmmm satech2001 you can't make a conclusion because of your current temperature, you have to test the same system with both thermal pastes...it might not be fake, i dont think so, it's antecs thermal paste...i dunno why people claims it to be fake...but because it's silver paste, doesn't automatically makes it as good as AS3 __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 10:58 PM	#24
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I heard all about the fake stuff, it was being distributed and sold AS AS3 at trade shows, flee markets, and some computer shops. It was in an UNMARKED tube that was very specific. It wasn't the antec stuff, which I am sure is a very good product. __________________

Mar 24, 2003, 12:03 AM	#25
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	Sorry, my mistake. I was trying to say that this: is fake and not the antec product. EDIT: Don't take me so seriously. Most of the time I'm stoned. __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 24, 2003, 07:49 AM	#27
JCLW Long Live The P6! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm - JW

Mar 24, 2003, 12:06 PM	#28
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	i didnt say it was a fake

Mar 24, 2003, 11:09 PM	#30
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	my posting was to satech2001 since he was the one seemingly going off the deepend not meant at anyone else