Bios Questions

Neshi · Dec 2, 2006, 08:45 PM

I've got the A8N-E mobo, with v1013 bios. Ive got some question about it... here are some pics, questions will be under them... (made with phone, so quality might not be everything)

So, now the questions.
#1
talking about HTT, is that the Hyper Transport Frequency, as shown in the last picture? I tried something out the other day, increasing the FSB (which i thought was the CPU frequency) from 200 to 240. Once in windows i checked in CPUz what had excatly changed, and i saw the HT link had increased from 1000mhz to 1400mhz. this would be explained if the Hyper Transport Frequency is the HTT, as i understood HT link= HTT x FSB right?

Next question. I found a overclocking guide which said:

Quote:

Finding the max of each component is very important in overclocking. Many people think they can just up the HTT and be done with it, but that’s not true most of the time because then you might get instability and not know what the source is. To me, not finding the max of each component is like fighting a group of people at once when you have the option to fight them one at a time. The first thing I like to do is find the max of my CPU and then my ram.

To find the max of your CPU you want to take out your other components as variables, so this is what I do:

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio (CPU Multi) to default. Do NOT use the auto setting! Manually set it to whatever your default multi is.

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio (LDT Multi) to 2.5x or 3x.
Setting this lower right now will make sure that your total HTT speed doesn’t cause instability.
Quote:
Wildstyle says.. You are freely able to lower this value and not lose performance because even with a HyperTransport Bus frequency of 200MHz (LDT = 1x), due to the nature of the HT architecture, there is still enough bandwidth available to transfer data between CPU/RAM/HDD without bottlenecking; and at 200MHz the theoretical bandwidth limit is still higher than that of AGP 8X, so video card performance is not affected either.
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio (Ram Ratio) to 100(Mhz)(1/02)
This is much lower then you should ever set this but it will make sure your ram is running way under spec and wont be causing you any problems at this point..

Quote:

After you found the max it's time to start testing your RAM !!
With the above settings you want to start raising the HTT\FSB 5-10mhz, and in between each raise you are going to run about 25 passes of memtest (Test #5 only for now) Once you get errors there are a few things you can do here:

1- Lower the HTT\FSB until its stable.
2- Raise the Vdimm (RAM Voltage) to see if that makes it stable, but remember some RAM doesn’t like a lot of vdimm and it could damage them.
3- Loosen the timings to make it more stable.

So here is where i am a little confused.

#2
to find the max of my CPU i should lower the Hyper Transport Frequency, lower my Memclock Index Frequency, and up my CPU frequency. Just up to the point i want or am comftereble with the temperature. did i understand that correcectly from the guide?

#3
but to find the max of my memory, i dont get that part.
I should leave the Hyper Transport Frequency at the point where i found max CPU, leave my CPU frequency at default (200Mhz) and up my Memclock Index Frequency, up to the point where its still stable?
please enlight me in this!

#4
Where do i need to set the voltage to the CPU?
I checked the Vcore voltage, but the options there are: 1.39V OR Ignore.
Should i set that at ignore and the set the voltage at CPU voltage? I can increase the voltage there with steps of 0.125V

Guess this is about it.
Please answer the questions with #... and then the answer, so i can clearly see what is about what and dont get confused.
I really want to understand the working of the computer and get that processor to 2,5 or 2,6Ghz

oh..
#5 is an overclock of 2.5 or 2.6Ghz achievable, considering cpu temps in the bios is 26/27C ?

zaim · Dec 3, 2006, 08:51 AM

try ont going over 1000mhz HTT.. so if you're going to 240fsb.. lower your hyper transport frequency to 4x or even 3x.. you wont notice much or even any performance change from 4x or 3x

if you want some guidence.... i've decided to take photos of my bios to hopefully help you guys out..

http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios0.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios1.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios2.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios3.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios4.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios5.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios6.jpg
http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios7.jpg

Neshi · Dec 3, 2006, 03:33 PM

yes.. so i had that part right...
nobody else wants to answer my questions?

Pengwin · Dec 3, 2006, 04:36 PM

loosen RAM timings and push the CPU as far as it'll go

Neshi · Dec 3, 2006, 08:27 PM

there are 47 views.. is there really no-one who can tell me:
#1 -answer-
#2 -answer
etc...

i really want to understand how it works, so i on my turn can help other people with similar questions

zaim · Dec 3, 2006, 10:54 PM

give this a read buddy click here

give that a read, and tell me if it gives you any answers.

Neshi · Dec 4, 2006, 07:18 AM

thanks.. that explained some more for me.. combining the 2 guides i have now, i think i'll be fine

what should be an allright 24/7 oc for an x2 3800+? 2.4-2.5Ghz?

zaim · Dec 4, 2006, 07:22 AM

you can have any oc 24/7... it all depends on the temperature you are running at. try keep the idle below 40 and the load below 55-60 (during overclock)

Neshi · Dec 5, 2006, 10:50 AM

still have 1 question though, which isnt answered here or an guide i could find.

Where do i need to set the voltage to the CPU?
I checked the Vcore voltage, but the options there are: 1.39V OR Ignore.
Should i set that at ignore and the set the voltage at CPU voltage? I can increase the voltage there with steps of 0.125V, whith a max of 1.5V

I set the CPU voltage at 1.375V, but CPUz still tells me its 1.39V :S

zaim · Dec 5, 2006, 11:32 AM

cant you edit the 1.375 ?

Neshi · Dec 5, 2006, 11:42 AM

yes i can... but whatever i did it didnt show up in cpuz. i set the Vcore Voltage on ignore now, and changed the CPU Voltage, it shows up now.. but why cant i go higher then 1.5V, while in several guides it says "stick around 1.6-1.65V...

oh, and whats the best temperature tracker? should i use Asus Probe or speedfan?

zaim · Dec 5, 2006, 12:00 PM

does your A8N motherboard have an overvolt option? if so you could play with that..

they both work off the same sensors.... i perosnally use speedfan, because it gives me a temperature reading in my systray when i minimise

Neshi · Dec 5, 2006, 12:17 PM

no... my mobo doesnt have that... i guess the max is 1.5V.

something strange though. Setting voltage in bios isnt correctly recognized in windows, or i am doing something wrong. after i jump on 1.45V or higher, it goes in Asus Probe and cpuz to ~1.510V. When i jump to 1.475V it goes in AP and cpuz to ~1.520V.
looking in the bios, the option for Vcore Voltage has changed from [1.4V] & [Ingore] into [1.5V] & [Ignore].
i guess it the settings in the bios are a bit off or there is something above my hat. i've looked on the internet, and many people have trouble finding the correct voltages...

what temperatures should i aim for... 50C as max @ load, or is that too hot?

zaim · Dec 5, 2006, 08:53 PM

50c aint too bad for an AMD under max load..... is this while it's overclocked?

Neshi · Dec 5, 2006, 09:01 PM

yes... im finding the max for the cpu at the moment... i think i got it stable at 2.65Ghz @ 1.5V (thats what asus probe, everest and speedfan is telling me, bios says its 1.45V) 2.7 gave an error in prime even with 1.53V.
temps under full load is topping 52c.

zaim · Dec 5, 2006, 11:24 PM

that's great buddy! 2.65 is an awesome overclock! 650mhz above stock, woo!

what cooling you running?

Neshi · Dec 6, 2006, 10:31 AM

arctic freezer 64 pro with AS5

i let prime run overnight, when i checked this morning, my screen was at stand-by. I couldnt get it back on desktop, so i figured it crashed. so i guess 2.65 was too much. I noticed above 2.6 i have to give it alot more voltage to get it a bit stable (it passed SuperPi and OCCT)
so i guess i'll try 2.6 this time..

zaim · Dec 6, 2006, 11:30 AM

awesome man... you seem to be keeping your shit together

Neshi · Dec 6, 2006, 01:23 PM

you know something about memory?
i got OCZ DDR500 XTC ram. on the site it says it should run DDR500, so 250Mhz at 1.75V. I had ut running on 200Mhz all the time with 2.6V no problem. Now i tried overclocking it as the guide tells me. so i put it on 'stock': ram ratio on 200, fsb on 250, voltage on 2.75V, so my ram would go DDR500/250Mhz this way. But i get heaps of errors in memtest.. am i doing something wrong?
i even tried with 2.9V, but even that is giving me errors.

EDIT: stock is solved. After i put it on 2T i could run it at stock. now i need to overclock it a little..

Neshi · Dec 6, 2006, 05:40 PM

i think i've got it stable as it is right now. Tonight i will test it with prime..
but look at this: its getting recognized as a x2 5000+!
idle at 30c, full load jet to come..

zaim · Dec 6, 2006, 07:55 PM

that's awesome man!

i'm sitting on a 10x muli but i'm gonna play with some settings when i get my 8800GTS and go to 9 multi like you have and increase my FSB a little.

You should be able to his the 1T mark man.... 1T is where you want to be at in terms of memory, because 1T is where the performance at!

I got bored other day and played with my timings, to see the difference between a CAS 2.5 and a CAS3.... here are results! no difference at all!

2.5-3-3-7 @ [COLOR=Red]3.15v
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[COLOR=Red]
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now you should never try these voltages or even higher without some decent ramsinks on your ram.... if you wanna experiment, throw some temporary fans aiming at your ram and try at your own risk

3-3-2-5 @ [COLOR=DarkRed]2.6v
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[COLOR=DarkRed]

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Now you see how i hit 6561MB/s ? under a 2T environment, i was just hitting 5,000MB/s... you can really notice the difference in 1T.

so see what you can do

riles9262 · Dec 6, 2006, 08:07 PM

I agree. You should try to hit 1t if possible, even if you have to sacrifice a little memory clock speed. It made a big difference for me as well.

Neshi · Dec 6, 2006, 08:11 PM

i tried stock speed and timings, 1T and had 3.0V on it, and still i didnt pass even 1 #5 test in memtest...
dont think i can pull of 1T, or i should put it back on 400Mhz, but i dont think there would be a performace increase between 1T@400mhz or 2T@473mhz..

btw, full load @ 49c. I guess I'm good now... just need to sort out the memory... i really wanna run 1T but dont think i can manage that..
strange there is a 20c gap between idle and full load...

zaim · Dec 7, 2006, 02:22 AM

try the 400mhz @ 1T and run some benchmarks to check the difference between 1T-400mhz and 2T-473mhz

SiSandra is a brialliant one to use!

Neshi · Dec 7, 2006, 05:23 AM

i could probably run 220-230 with 1T. But its all cos of my mobo.. it isnt exactly the overclocker board...
prime ran 10h without error. so i guess thats ok, or should i do a 24h test as well?

zaim · Dec 7, 2006, 08:07 AM

I usually let prime run for 10 minutes at the most to see if its stable lol.. but thats me being impatient.

Dec 3, 2006, 03:33 PM	Thread Starter #3
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yes.. so i had that part right... nobody else wants to answer my questions? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 3, 2006, 08:27 PM	Thread Starter #5
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	there are 47 views.. is there really no-one who can tell me: #1 -answer- #2 -answer etc... i really want to understand how it works, so i on my turn can help other people with similar questions __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

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Dec 4, 2006, 07:18 AM	Thread Starter #7
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	thanks.. that explained some more for me.. combining the 2 guides i have now, i think i'll be fine what should be an allright 24/7 oc for an x2 3800+? 2.4-2.5Ghz? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 4, 2006, 07:22 AM	#8
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	you can have any oc 24/7... it all depends on the temperature you are running at. try keep the idle below 40 and the load below 55-60 (during overclock) __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 3, 2006, 08:51 AM	#2
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	try ont going over 1000mhz HTT.. so if you're going to 240fsb.. lower your hyper transport frequency to 4x or even 3x.. you wont notice much or even any performance change from 4x or 3x if you want some guidence.... i've decided to take photos of my bios to hopefully help you guys out.. http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios0.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios1.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios2.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios3.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios4.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios5.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios6.jpg http://www.zaimc.com/temp/pc/bios7.jpg __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment! Last edited by zaim; Dec 3, 2006 at 08:58 AM.

Dec 3, 2006, 04:36 PM	#4
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Dec 5, 2006, 10:50 AM	Thread Starter #9
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	still have 1 question though, which isnt answered here or an guide i could find. Where do i need to set the voltage to the CPU? I checked the Vcore voltage, but the options there are: 1.39V OR Ignore. Should i set that at ignore and the set the voltage at CPU voltage? I can increase the voltage there with steps of 0.125V, whith a max of 1.5V I set the CPU voltage at 1.375V, but CPUz still tells me its 1.39V :S __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 5, 2006, 11:32 AM	#10
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	cant you edit the 1.375 ? __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 5, 2006, 11:42 AM	Thread Starter #11
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yes i can... but whatever i did it didnt show up in cpuz. i set the Vcore Voltage on ignore now, and changed the CPU Voltage, it shows up now.. but why cant i go higher then 1.5V, while in several guides it says "stick around 1.6-1.65V... oh, and whats the best temperature tracker? should i use Asus Probe or speedfan? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 5, 2006, 12:00 PM	#12
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	does your A8N motherboard have an overvolt option? if so you could play with that.. they both work off the same sensors.... i perosnally use speedfan, because it gives me a temperature reading in my systray when i minimise __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 5, 2006, 12:17 PM	Thread Starter #13
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	no... my mobo doesnt have that... i guess the max is 1.5V. something strange though. Setting voltage in bios isnt correctly recognized in windows, or i am doing something wrong. after i jump on 1.45V or higher, it goes in Asus Probe and cpuz to ~1.510V. When i jump to 1.475V it goes in AP and cpuz to ~1.520V. looking in the bios, the option for Vcore Voltage has changed from [1.4V] & [Ingore] into [1.5V] & [Ignore]. i guess it the settings in the bios are a bit off or there is something above my hat. i've looked on the internet, and many people have trouble finding the correct voltages... what temperatures should i aim for... 50C as max @ load, or is that too hot? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's Last edited by Neshi; Dec 5, 2006 at 08:34 PM.

Dec 5, 2006, 08:53 PM	#14
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	50c aint too bad for an AMD under max load..... is this while it's overclocked? __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 5, 2006, 09:01 PM	Thread Starter #15
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yes... im finding the max for the cpu at the moment... i think i got it stable at 2.65Ghz @ 1.5V (thats what asus probe, everest and speedfan is telling me, bios says its 1.45V) 2.7 gave an error in prime even with 1.53V. temps under full load is topping 52c. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 5, 2006, 11:24 PM	#16
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	that's great buddy! 2.65 is an awesome overclock! 650mhz above stock, woo! what cooling you running? __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 6, 2006, 10:31 AM	Thread Starter #17
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	arctic freezer 64 pro with AS5 i let prime run overnight, when i checked this morning, my screen was at stand-by. I couldnt get it back on desktop, so i figured it crashed. so i guess 2.65 was too much. I noticed above 2.6 i have to give it alot more voltage to get it a bit stable (it passed SuperPi and OCCT) so i guess i'll try 2.6 this time.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 6, 2006, 11:30 AM	#18
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	awesome man... you seem to be keeping your shit together __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 6, 2006, 01:23 PM	Thread Starter #19
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	you know something about memory? i got OCZ DDR500 XTC ram. on the site it says it should run DDR500, so 250Mhz at 1.75V. I had ut running on 200Mhz all the time with 2.6V no problem. Now i tried overclocking it as the guide tells me. so i put it on 'stock': ram ratio on 200, fsb on 250, voltage on 2.75V, so my ram would go DDR500/250Mhz this way. But i get heaps of errors in memtest.. am i doing something wrong? i even tried with 2.9V, but even that is giving me errors. EDIT: stock is solved. After i put it on 2T i could run it at stock. now i need to overclock it a little.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's Last edited by Neshi; Dec 6, 2006 at 03:58 PM.

Dec 6, 2006, 05:40 PM	Thread Starter #20
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	i think i've got it stable as it is right now. Tonight i will test it with prime.. but look at this: its getting recognized as a x2 5000+! idle at 30c, full load jet to come.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 6, 2006, 07:55 PM	#21
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	that's awesome man! i'm sitting on a 10x muli but i'm gonna play with some settings when i get my 8800GTS and go to 9 multi like you have and increase my FSB a little. You should be able to his the 1T mark man.... 1T is where you want to be at in terms of memory, because 1T is where the performance at! I got bored other day and played with my timings, to see the difference between a CAS 2.5 and a CAS3.... here are results! no difference at all! 2.5-3-3-7 @ [COLOR=Red]3.15v [/COLOR] [COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] now you should never try these voltages or even higher without some decent ramsinks on your ram.... if you wanna experiment, throw some temporary fans aiming at your ram and try at your own risk 3-3-2-5 @ [COLOR=DarkRed]2.6v [/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed] [/COLOR] Now you see how i hit 6561MB/s ? under a 2T environment, i was just hitting 5,000MB/s... you can really notice the difference in 1T. so see what you can do __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 6, 2006, 08:07 PM	#22
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	I agree. You should try to hit 1t if possible, even if you have to sacrifice a little memory clock speed. It made a big difference for me as well. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Dec 6, 2006, 08:11 PM	Thread Starter #23
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	i tried stock speed and timings, 1T and had 3.0V on it, and still i didnt pass even 1 #5 test in memtest... dont think i can pull of 1T, or i should put it back on 400Mhz, but i dont think there would be a performace increase between 1T@400mhz or 2T@473mhz.. btw, full load @ 49c. I guess I'm good now... just need to sort out the memory... i really wanna run 1T but dont think i can manage that.. strange there is a 20c gap between idle and full load... __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 7, 2006, 02:22 AM	#24
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	try the 400mhz @ 1T and run some benchmarks to check the difference between 1T-400mhz and 2T-473mhz SiSandra is a brialliant one to use! __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

Dec 7, 2006, 05:23 AM	Thread Starter #25
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	i could probably run 220-230 with 1T. But its all cos of my mobo.. it isnt exactly the overclocker board... prime ran 10h without error. so i guess thats ok, or should i do a 24h test as well? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Dec 7, 2006, 08:07 AM	#26
zaim HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,052 Rep Power: 42	I usually let prime run for 10 minutes at the most to see if its stable lol.. but thats me being impatient. __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!