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Old Feb 7, 2007, 08:45 PM   #1
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Present Day Cooling solutions applied to old School hardware

I've played with a few thing in the pentium 1 class range, K5 age. Changed around some mounting clips and brackets and applied some artic silver 5 or similare, and then overclocking them about 40% or more over the stock clock.

133mhz p1 to 233 is a nice jump for example... stable and all

Playing with a Celron, with the newer cooling solutions, you can get some nice figures out of them, usually as far as the motherboards will allow.


I don't know, i find this sometimes fun...
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some time ago I was able to oc 450Mhz PIII to 600Mhz mainly raising fsb from 100Mhz to 133Mhz... So I know what you mean Judas
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i just remember back then when the hardware was new, that getting any overclock, for example, the 450 to say even 500 or 550 was damn steller...

but now it's like you throw it together with good cooling and max out the board and don't even have to run extra testing or anything.. it just seems to work..

ATM i'm installing windows XP on this 133mhz p1 (stock mode). Started the install i think a little over 2 hours ago, and it's about 15 minutes probably from finishing the install. From there i'll crank it up and see how far it'll go (i put a Socket A heatsink and fan on it, orginal it was a small fanless heatsink on this little thing)

Just to bad that this poor little IBM 300GL machine maxes out @ 64mb of ram (even though it says 128mb, but finding 64mb sdram that'll work in the sucker is apparently impossible)

Used to have a 800mb HD to upgraded to a fujitsu 10gb hd. And swapped out the 4x cd-rom drive for a 52x lg cd-rom.

I'm debating on what sound card to pop in.





Btw, i found an orginal Celron 333 in a msi board agian (similare to what i had before the athlon i ended up with) i remember overclocking (my first time ever) up to 418mhz. I just got it to post @ over 500 with the more efficient cooling
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For sound card SB16 for ISA bus would be hc!!!
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well installed with no flaws.. now cranking up the cpu to 200mhz and see how it is..

xp takes about 30 seconds to load @ 133mhz, and it's quite responcive.... i mean the first time you fire up anything, the initial load is a little long, but once it's been loaded.. it runs smoothly

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You could reduce the XP installation size with nLite, I'm sure it would install much faster and run smoother without all that unnecessary garbage.
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Na actually the default install i've got, all i do is manually remove windows messenger and msn itself. The running processes on it are a whopping 14 atm.

it runs quite smoothly... i mean i'm dealing with 64mb of ram....

what surprised me is by default, it loaded up with the full xp gui, the other machines i've installed with the similare setup would default to performance mode.... maybe cause this machine has 1mb of video memory and the other had only 512kb or less...
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cute OC speeds lol i remember a pentium 1 comp when i was like 4 ....i remember dropping it and my parents got mad
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the first real computer my family got was a 122mhz compaq (even though the chip was rated 166mhz but using a pos fanless heatsink and downclocking it so it ran cooler)

i swear that computer with a damn good heatsink could easily reach 233mhz.
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the first real computer my family got was a 122mhz compaq (even though the chip was rated 166mhz but using a pos fanless heatsink and downclocking it so it ran cooler)

i swear that computer with a damn good heatsink could easily reach 233mhz.
nice... almost double... it would be great to get Core 2s to 5GHz or something at some point. lol double clock speed is nice
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maybe in another 10 years.. those cooling solutions will make old chip obtain those speeds easily.
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lol by then wed probably be mass growing diamonds as a replacement for silicone and reaching 50GHz on a single core. hey its possible
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in 10 years, i hope that we are sitting at roughly 200ghz speeds on a single core.
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not kinda surprise as i saw you talked about old hardwares before... but i think i do rather wonder that you still have time to play with them, while all the things you need to do with today's hardwares every days, no? or why you keep the old hardwares anyways/ or are they belonging to your customers who pays you for the services?
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The old hardware, hardware capable of getting on the internet or doing basic office work or even the simpliest of games (solitare and the light) are worth something here yet, While some people will spend a fairly decent amount to get thier computer completely cleaned up and tested/ reinstalled with all the latest software, only a few will actually purchase a new machine. Alot of people don't want to spend a single penny, or very little, and while they could do say 300-400 dollars on a new machine, they'll opped for a 50-150 dollar computer system which may be old, but will do the tasks they plan to use it for.
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in that case, you can still sell them (those very old computer hardwares) at your store, then it's okay.
i thought you just spent your free time in your store for something that are not very useful, and not help you or with things you may need for your daily work. and would not you rather spend time learning how to use and have more utility software program for your work? Just a thought.
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those OCs are nice on that old hardware.

i currently still have my old HP. little puppy has a 566Mhz celeron, and 192Mb of SDR. at least i think it has 192Mb of SDR. i might have sold the 128Mb stick.....grrr.....i don't remember now.

i want to sell it, but my dad would be pissed if i do cuz he spent over a grand on it when we first bought it.....back in 2000 . i'd sell it in a heart beat for about $150, if i could squeeze $150 out of it.
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that machine bumped up to 256mb of ram and depending on what in it (i've got a pile of 10gb to 80gb IDE drives here), i am actually selling those system, depending again on the OS (recommending windows XP of course) for anywhere from $200 bucks right up to nearly $500, the 500 models have usually seperate audio/video cards and other additional features that make it even worthwhile to do more elaborate things.


Panging, while yes, i do have a few things i do occasionally in my shop in my spare time that is occasionally fruitless, working on older stuff has it's advantages, and i do play around with alot of new stuff as well.

ATM, i'm setting up a floor demo, a 40" New Samsung 1080p LCD HD TV attached to a computer built for multimedia (vista home Premium) Although i don't have a TV card in it yet, the ATI video card i've got plugged in it atm is a Vivo model. While i'm not likely to sell the entire setup, i'm learning as i go how to properly and more efficiently setup a rig. Specially with vista, alot of vista learning atm. I've got every machine capable of vista currently running some version of vista, just so i know what the differences, capabilities of them are. (or quirks

If i can get this old 75mhz compaq up and running, and find me some 32mb sims, i'll have another dirt cheap machine for sale.
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i know the machine does not have a HDD in it. the machine originally had a 15Gb drive, and then i added a 2nd 20Gb drive. But i put both in another machine i repaired for two different clients of mine. I'd put in two drives in the machine again if i could.

It also came w/a 4x CD-RW drive, but i gave that up to another client of mine as well, lol. so now, it is driveless.

specs on the machine: 566Mhz celeron, 192Mb SDR, intel something or other chipset, on board video (no agp slot)....that's about it really. it's good to go, just needs the drives replaced. oh yea! i changed the original HSF from the puny dinky thing that it came with, to a beefier socket A cooler. I have a 1.3Ghz Tualitin based celeron sitting in front of me. I placed it inside the HP, but it wouldn't post w/it . I'm pretty sure the MoBo doesn't support it because i know the CPU will still post.
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Na actually the default install i've got, all i do is manually remove windows messenger and msn itself. The running processes on it are a whopping 14 atm.

it runs quite smoothly... i mean i'm dealing with 64mb of ram....

what surprised me is by default, it loaded up with the full xp gui, the other machines i've installed with the similare setup would default to performance mode.... maybe cause this machine has 1mb of video memory and the other had only 512kb or less...

Nuts Judas. You're NUTS!

I wouldn't even put windoze on that thing, I bet it'd take a week even to compile an OpenBSD kernel and userland even with present day hard drives and what not.

Now if you watercool the thing... I will be impressed Not that I'm NOT impressed with the fact that you got a P1 to run XPSP2.... THG couldn't even do it I don't think (hell the thing doesn't have MMX!!!)

The oldest thing I run is a slightly modded IBM Aptiva, which has an Athlon K7 600MHz on it running folding 24/7 and with 512MB of PC100 SDRAM in it, and I think a 160GB hard drive and the original DVD reader from Hitachi.

I'm going to install dust filters and seal the unit up with duct tape this weekend see if I can't get some better temps happening on it or maybe some higher airflow... but as it is I like the machine, nice quiet and quite peppy

Edit: Actually I lied, soon I'll be setting up Gentoo on a P2 350Mhz (multiplier OC'ed straight to 450MHz due to the more powerful TT fan I jammed in) with some 7200RPM SCSI action happening! Now if I could mod a better PSU into it I would have myself a decent NAS machine (not that my P3 server machine isn't but hey more space is always better)
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Well try installing windows ME on a 8mb ram and 33mhz i486DX intel cpu compaq machine, when i modded in a different hardrive (1gb) from the standard 280mb drive and ripped out the orginal compaq cd-rom 2x drive and stuck in the 8x drive i had laying around here, it took a full 30 some odd hours to install and then loading windows would take a full 30 minutes, by the time i got it finally setup and tweaked up i had almost spent a full 3 to 4 days just getting the bastard running. I didn't even mod it for higher speeds, the freaking cpu was actually soldered to the board (no socket). It was one of those compaq all in one units, speakers/monitor/computer all built into one thing.

Anyways, the machine was later given away to someone that wanted to do very simplistic things. While it would take roughly a full 2 minutes to boot, and a good few seconds to load each little thing, it worked, just horribly slowly.

Now this 133mhz mmxless machine i modded here, with xp sp2, it's work great, smooth as silk, hell playing a few simple 2d games loads rather quickly and doesn't studder, course no MMX games work obviously.
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