nf7-s arrived

shuki · Mar 26, 2003, 10:24 PM

I've ran her up to 200 today

I'd like to post up some pics if anyone can host about 12 pics for me (or give me an addy or FTP to upload to) I'd be more than glad to post up some screenies of benches and stuff

but for now....

<- click me

rig is:
xp2100 b
nf7-s
2x256 kingston hyperX ($77 ea. newegg

)
r9700 pro (324/310 stock)
onboard audio
onboard lan
60G maxtor hdd
winXP

edit - much THANKS to both members who have offered to host these for me!!! would publicly thank you by name but wouldn't want you to get plastered with "can you host this for me" PM's

Anyhow, you both know who you are and between the two I think I may get some pics up in a few hours

Mar 27, 2003, 01:30 AM

ok well hurry up and get em up! and also did you have to format your HDD when you put it in? i did because XP wouldnt load and it really pissed me off so i just formatted and that was the beginning of a long work day...

Desert_Siege · Mar 27, 2003, 05:31 AM

I just ordered one of these for a friend and am looking forward to setting it up and running it through the mill before I consider buying one for myself. I do have a question though. Does that board allow you to set up a RAID array using IDE drives? I can't seem to find any relevant info on that and seem to get conflicting reports as to whether that board has RAID or not. One site will say it has RAID, one site says it doesn't, another one says it has RAID but is VERY flaky and usually doesn't function correctly. I cannot do without my RAID array and won't even consider a board that doesn't have it as an option. I do like the fact that the onboard audio on this would allow me to ditch the audigy, but I have to have RAID.

Dom · Mar 27, 2003, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shuki
I've ran her up to 200 today I'd like to post up some pics if anyone can host about 12 pics for me (or give me an addy or FTP to upload to) I'd be more than glad to post up some screenies of benches and stuff

but for now.... <- click me

rig is:
xp2100 b
nf7-s
2x256 kingston hyperX ($77 ea. newegg )
r9700 pro (324/310 stock)
onboard audio
onboard lan
60G maxtor hdd
winXP

edit - much THANKS to both members who have offered to host these for me!!! would publicly thank you by name but wouldn't want you to get plastered with "can you host this for me" PM's Anyhow, you both know who you are and between the two I think I may get some pics up in a few hours

Congrats! I wish you much enjoyment with your new toys, buddy.

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 07:50 AM

Shuki... I know you know your shit... but I wouldn't suggest going with the RAID 0 on the SATA headers. You can read up on the thread at Abit's forum called "SATA not working reliably" http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...&threadid=3957 . It's not looking good yet. Abit hasn't fixed the SATA problems. Some people get data corruption, some don't. It is very random.

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 07:57 AM

Desert_Siege - I don't run RAID so really I have no clue... sorry m8

pics on their way......

166x13

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 07:58 AM

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 07:59 AM

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 08:00 AM

SO CLOSE TO 3K, 16K and 5K sandra mem, 2k1 and 2k3 respectively

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 08:01 AM

looped 2k3 overnight here

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 08:02 AM

Hmmm, now you just need some PC3500.

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 08:07 AM

Are all of these runs with your card at stock speed?

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Hmmm, now you just need some PC3500.

please tell me WHY you would post that statement? do you think I'm maxed out here? do you think I've stopped? do you think my RAM is topped out? or were you just suggesting I spend more money for the fun of it?

edit - and yes, stock speed on the 9700 pro (for now). Click the smiley in first post to view timings.

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 08:16 AM

PC3500 for something like 220-230-240 mhz.........

Oh, i didn't realize you weren't running your PC2700 anymore. I didn't know that you bought new ram. Gotcha, sorry.

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
PC3500 for something like 220-230-240 mhz.........

Oh, i didn't realize you weren't running your PC2700 anymore. I didn't know that you bought new ram. Gotcha, sorry.

not to highjack my own thread or anything but I'd like to see your OC progress screened out like this. Its really fun to do

You've got same mobo, same cpu and pc3200 ddr and now a brand new thermalright hsf. You seem to have a lot of advice on OCing and hardware and I just wondered how you actually do in OCing.... Start another thread and give us a run m8!

Vampyromaniac · Mar 27, 2003, 08:38 AM

Very nice Shuki

impressive!

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 08:40 AM

I'd OC more if my RAM ran stable. Something is freaked with the MOBO... Being RMAed. Waiting for the cross-shipped board. Waiting for my credit card payments to clear so I can get some PC3500 (OCZ, 76$ a stick). It'll be two weeks before I can get my mobo back.

edit: by the way............ goodnight. bed time.

shuki · Mar 27, 2003, 10:45 AM

excuse me, but need to vent.

Drive, first it was your CPU so you ordered new xp2100b.
then you said it was your mobo so you bought nf7 v1.2
then you said it was your cooling with volcano 9 so you ordred SLK
now you say its back to mobo and even your RAM.

It would appear to me that the problemsyou are experiencing is not so much hardware related as they are user related... Really, I don't wanna sound like an ass but you post all over the place like you know what you're doing (ie "xp2100 can hit 2600mhz on air easy" or "now you just need some pc3500 mem" those are just in my threads let alone all the "advice" you give out in other threads) but in reality your OCing skils are obviously lacking. Hardware and money can only take you so far in this game and then its up to talent, skill and luck. You appear to be very, very unlucky or maybe its something else..... anyhow, I hope you don't take offense but please stop posting about stuff that you really have only "read" about... put up or shut up

DriveEuro · Mar 27, 2003, 03:11 PM

NO, my ram has not run stable in this board (1.2) ever since I got it. I don't report my problems to everyone once I get them. I just avoid the hassle and RMA. My ram does run stable in the 1.2 ... why? Beats me but other people on Abit Forum have the problem too. So I said fuck I, RMA time. Patience Shuki.

Desert_Siege · Mar 30, 2003, 02:57 AM

I am still highly considering this board, just have to get the RAID issue worked out. I may have to use an add in RAID card if the board performs reliably and stably. Glad to see you got yours running great. Now, can I have it? heh heh.

I see you chose Kingston HyperX. Do you have to slow the timings down considerably to hit 200 like you do with alot of the Corsair that is not "LL" designated? I may pawn this XMS 3200 off on a friend as it seems to only run stable above 180 with 3-3-2 2T timings and has been pretty disappointing so far performance wise. It is very stable at those timings, but so would decent PC2700. Setting it to 1T causes instant lock ups. I can't get to 200 stably, but 190 is rock solid.

This will be my first experience with an Nforce board, so I may drop you a line if I run in to a question I can't find an answer to. That is, if you don't mind.

Nice work dude!

shuki · Mar 30, 2003, 05:17 AM

Don't mind at all. And if you go with this nf7 at least I am familiar with the BIOS on it. My mem timngs right now at 200x12 dual channel hyperX is 2 2-5-2. I'm getting ready to do a vdd mod as the board has reached its chipset limit here at 200. 205 and I can not run dual channel and complete 3dmark2k1 only single stick. 210 fsb and I can't even get 2k1 to start

So gonna mod this baby this afternoon and hopefully post up some more progress...

~~shai~~ · Mar 30, 2003, 10:50 AM

im glad i bought the 8rga+
i can ajust vdd there
now ill just have to wait till it gets here
i will post my overclock with it of course

~~shai~~ · Mar 30, 2003, 10:52 AM

btw i have a question if one recives mem that doesnt run at spec can he RMA it

shuki · Mar 30, 2003, 01:48 PM

yes shai, if it is at rated speed with those timings. what mem in question? And I can adjust vdd here too but only to 1.7. Got the stuff right here for me little vdd mod

Prayin it don't go up in smoke or I just might be ordering me one of those 8rga's too

~~shai~~ · Mar 30, 2003, 03:00 PM

your safe to go to 1.8 with cooling i heard 2v isnt even safe with water cooling
and i didnt get the ram yet
ill get it and the rest of my comp in 2 days or so
and ordering them would be a good idea

shuki · Mar 30, 2003, 04:28 PM

had topped out at 200 dual channel and 205 single stick. went to 4 different electronics stores here and none of them even knew what an smd grabber was

So... made a stop at office depot and 2 pencil strokes later here I am. 205x11.5 dual channel!! wonder how far she'll go...

I'll post up some pics soon I hope..

~~shai~~ · Mar 30, 2003, 04:31 PM

so how much vdd do you have now

shuki · Mar 30, 2003, 04:39 PM

well I not only did the vdd mod but also cut both a new hsf "duct" and a 120mm hole in side of case. So I now have a 120mm fan blowing across my nb, r9700 pro (soon to be zalman cooled right in front of 120 fan

) and sb. I also have a stock amd xp hsf sitting here that I will probably fit to the nb.

but to answer your question, before my 1.6vcore in BIOS was 1.604 it now reads 1.740 those are measured from spot 1. spot 2 gave me 1.686 stock and up to 1.831 now

And PLEASE, people who have not achieved 200+ overclocking speeds stable for an extended period of time, don't post up your advice on what I need to do....

can't wait to share some pics.... dang I wish I just had some bandwidth

tried that iupload site and each time I try and post img tags here I get some flashing Bible banner about stealing...

Oh well, pics will follow

~~shai~~ · Mar 30, 2003, 04:47 PM

your not talking about me right?
im expecting to get to 210 atleast

shuki · Mar 30, 2003, 05:39 PM

oops no, not directly but did sorta look like that since it was in the paragraph addressed to you... no it was just a general request to all. And I do hope you get 210 but expectations are just that. Until your hardware arrives and you get it up and running you'll just not know how well she'll do.... I too am anxious to follow your progress!! I love this stuff

Mar 26, 2003, 10:24 PM	#1
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	nf7-s arrived I've ran her up to 200 today I'd like to post up some pics if anyone can host about 12 pics for me (or give me an addy or FTP to upload to) I'd be more than glad to post up some screenies of benches and stuff but for now.... <- click me rig is: xp2100 b nf7-s 2x256 kingston hyperX ($77 ea. newegg ) r9700 pro (324/310 stock) onboard audio onboard lan 60G maxtor hdd winXP edit - much THANKS to both members who have offered to host these for me!!! would publicly thank you by name but wouldn't want you to get plastered with "can you host this for me" PM's Anyhow, you both know who you are and between the two I think I may get some pics up in a few hours Last edited by shuki; Mar 27, 2003 at 12:35 AM.

Mar 27, 2003, 05:31 AM	#3
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Nice... I just ordered one of these for a friend and am looking forward to setting it up and running it through the mill before I consider buying one for myself. I do have a question though. Does that board allow you to set up a RAID array using IDE drives? I can't seem to find any relevant info on that and seem to get conflicting reports as to whether that board has RAID or not. One site will say it has RAID, one site says it doesn't, another one says it has RAID but is VERY flaky and usually doesn't function correctly. I cannot do without my RAID array and won't even consider a board that doesn't have it as an option. I do like the fact that the onboard audio on this would allow me to ditch the audigy, but I have to have RAID.

Mar 27, 2003, 07:50 AM	#5
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Shuki... I know you know your shit... but I wouldn't suggest going with the RAID 0 on the SATA headers. You can read up on the thread at Abit's forum called "SATA not working reliably" http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...&threadid=3957 . It's not looking good yet. Abit hasn't fixed the SATA problems. Some people get data corruption, some don't. It is very random. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 27, 2003, 07:58 AM	Thread Starter #7
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	176x13

Mar 27, 2003, 07:59 AM	Thread Starter #8
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	185x11.5

Mar 27, 2003, 01:30 AM	#2
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	ok well hurry up and get em up! and also did you have to format your HDD when you put it in? i did because XP wouldnt load and it really pissed me off so i just formatted and that was the beginning of a long work day...

Mar 27, 2003, 07:57 AM	Thread Starter #6
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	Desert_Siege - I don't run RAID so really I have no clue... sorry m8 pics on their way...... 166x13

Mar 27, 2003, 08:00 AM	Thread Starter #9
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	195x11.5 SO CLOSE TO 3K, 16K and 5K sandra mem, 2k1 and 2k3 respectively

Mar 27, 2003, 08:01 AM	Thread Starter #10
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	WOOT!! 3k, 16k and 5k 200x11.5 looped 2k3 overnight here

Mar 27, 2003, 08:02 AM	#11
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm, now you just need some PC3500. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 27, 2003, 08:07 AM	#12
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Are all of these runs with your card at stock speed? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 27, 2003, 08:16 AM	#14
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	PC3500 for something like 220-230-240 mhz......... Oh, i didn't realize you weren't running your PC2700 anymore. I didn't know that you bought new ram. Gotcha, sorry. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 27, 2003, 08:38 AM	#16
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	dmh Very nice Shuki impressive!

Mar 27, 2003, 08:40 AM	#17
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I'd OC more if my RAM ran stable. Something is freaked with the MOBO... Being RMAed. Waiting for the cross-shipped board. Waiting for my credit card payments to clear so I can get some PC3500 (OCZ, 76$ a stick). It'll be two weeks before I can get my mobo back. edit: by the way............ goodnight. bed time. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 27, 2003, 10:45 AM	Thread Starter #18
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	excuse me, but need to vent. Drive, first it was your CPU so you ordered new xp2100b. then you said it was your mobo so you bought nf7 v1.2 then you said it was your cooling with volcano 9 so you ordred SLK now you say its back to mobo and even your RAM. It would appear to me that the problemsyou are experiencing is not so much hardware related as they are user related... Really, I don't wanna sound like an ass but you post all over the place like you know what you're doing (ie "xp2100 can hit 2600mhz on air easy" or "now you just need some pc3500 mem" those are just in my threads let alone all the "advice" you give out in other threads) but in reality your OCing skils are obviously lacking. Hardware and money can only take you so far in this game and then its up to talent, skill and luck. You appear to be very, very unlucky or maybe its something else..... anyhow, I hope you don't take offense but please stop posting about stuff that you really have only "read" about... put up or shut up

Mar 27, 2003, 03:11 PM	#19
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	NO, my ram has not run stable in this board (1.2) ever since I got it. I don't report my problems to everyone once I get them. I just avoid the hassle and RMA. My ram does run stable in the 1.2 ... why? Beats me but other people on Abit Forum have the problem too. So I said fuck I, RMA time. Patience Shuki. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Mar 30, 2003, 02:57 AM	#20
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Nice work Shuki!! I am still highly considering this board, just have to get the RAID issue worked out. I may have to use an add in RAID card if the board performs reliably and stably. Glad to see you got yours running great. Now, can I have it? heh heh. I see you chose Kingston HyperX. Do you have to slow the timings down considerably to hit 200 like you do with alot of the Corsair that is not "LL" designated? I may pawn this XMS 3200 off on a friend as it seems to only run stable above 180 with 3-3-2 2T timings and has been pretty disappointing so far performance wise. It is very stable at those timings, but so would decent PC2700. Setting it to 1T causes instant lock ups. I can't get to 200 stably, but 190 is rock solid. This will be my first experience with an Nforce board, so I may drop you a line if I run in to a question I can't find an answer to. That is, if you don't mind. Nice work dude!

Mar 30, 2003, 05:17 AM	Thread Starter #21
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	Don't mind at all. And if you go with this nf7 at least I am familiar with the BIOS on it. My mem timngs right now at 200x12 dual channel hyperX is 2 2-5-2. I'm getting ready to do a vdd mod as the board has reached its chipset limit here at 200. 205 and I can not run dual channel and complete 3dmark2k1 only single stick. 210 fsb and I can't even get 2k1 to start So gonna mod this baby this afternoon and hopefully post up some more progress...

Mar 30, 2003, 10:50 AM	#22
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	im glad i bought the 8rga+ i can ajust vdd there now ill just have to wait till it gets here i will post my overclock with it of course

Mar 30, 2003, 10:52 AM	#23
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	btw i have a question if one recives mem that doesnt run at spec can he RMA it

Mar 30, 2003, 01:48 PM	Thread Starter #24
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	yes shai, if it is at rated speed with those timings. what mem in question? And I can adjust vdd here too but only to 1.7. Got the stuff right here for me little vdd mod Prayin it don't go up in smoke or I just might be ordering me one of those 8rga's too

Mar 30, 2003, 03:00 PM	#25
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	your safe to go to 1.8 with cooling i heard 2v isnt even safe with water cooling and i didnt get the ram yet ill get it and the rest of my comp in 2 days or so and ordering them would be a good idea

Mar 30, 2003, 04:28 PM	Thread Starter #26
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	pencil trick had topped out at 200 dual channel and 205 single stick. went to 4 different electronics stores here and none of them even knew what an smd grabber was So... made a stop at office depot and 2 pencil strokes later here I am. 205x11.5 dual channel!! wonder how far she'll go... I'll post up some pics soon I hope..

Mar 30, 2003, 04:31 PM	#27
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	so how much vdd do you have now

Mar 30, 2003, 04:39 PM	Thread Starter #28
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	well I not only did the vdd mod but also cut both a new hsf "duct" and a 120mm hole in side of case. So I now have a 120mm fan blowing across my nb, r9700 pro (soon to be zalman cooled right in front of 120 fan ) and sb. I also have a stock amd xp hsf sitting here that I will probably fit to the nb. but to answer your question, before my 1.6vcore in BIOS was 1.604 it now reads 1.740 those are measured from spot 1. spot 2 gave me 1.686 stock and up to 1.831 now And PLEASE, people who have not achieved 200+ overclocking speeds stable for an extended period of time, don't post up your advice on what I need to do.... can't wait to share some pics.... dang I wish I just had some bandwidth tried that iupload site and each time I try and post img tags here I get some flashing Bible banner about stealing... Oh well, pics will follow

Mar 30, 2003, 04:47 PM	#29
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	your not talking about me right? im expecting to get to 210 atleast

Mar 30, 2003, 05:39 PM	Thread Starter #30
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	oops no, not directly but did sorta look like that since it was in the paragraph addressed to you... no it was just a general request to all. And I do hope you get 210 but expectations are just that. Until your hardware arrives and you get it up and running you'll just not know how well she'll do.... I too am anxious to follow your progress!! I love this stuff