9700 pro mod ?

Silverfox · Mar 30, 2003, 10:50 PM

Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen or used this particular product modification on the 9700 pro, and if it will actually help minimize heat even if you don`t decide to overclock! Just thinking of applying some modification, to a new stock ATI 9700 pro that may increase its longevity and take some heat stress off the card whether I decide to overclock or not! Along with this mod they sell artic silver also that you can apply. The product is depicted on www.ocsystem.com/ocati90vidca.html Thanks for any replys!

Zardon · Mar 30, 2003, 11:39 PM

I havent seen that mod but there are two telling facts.

1: its aluminium, fantastic for cooling.

2: its made by thermaltake a great company.

looks great to me and a nice price indeed.

Silverfox · Mar 30, 2003, 11:44 PM

Thanks Zardon for the reply, and Im like you, it looks pretty good for the nominal price, and all I really want to accomplish is reduce some heat off the card! Maybe some of the other guys that hang around here will respond with some actual unbiased reviews of this product!

Zardon · Mar 30, 2003, 11:50 PM

I dont really see how you could go wrong at that price to be honest. its different if it was $50 or more. but I reckon if your core and ram are up to it, you should push more from them if you are into overclocking (also depends on your case temps). anyway if you do it right, it will be good for the card, cooling is always important......

dipstick · Mar 31, 2003, 12:27 AM

That is sweet! I wish I had seen it before I paid $30+just for ramsinks. Go for it dude, that is nice for an even nicer price

Silverfox · Mar 31, 2003, 12:38 AM

Thanks for the reply and opinion. I think I will purchase the product and install the new stock ATI 9700pro in my system and record my various temps prior to adding on this cooling kit and then record the temp`s after I install this product on the card. Just try and see the actual differences! When I complete the recordings I`ll repost them here in the forum. Probably takes around a week to get it delivered!

shuki · Mar 31, 2003, 06:59 AM

Silverfox, please do take the time to bench some temps and perf. before and after

Really the only way to know.... I too wish I had seen this before ordering my $34 zalman....

Silverfox · Mar 31, 2003, 07:10 AM

Sure thing! It may be a week or so due to the delivery time and me getting around to installing all of it, but as much help as I personally get in these forums from alot of nice folks, that are nice enough to respond back with help for guys like myself, you can bet Im more than happy to respond back also!

shuki · Mar 31, 2003, 08:14 AM

and thats what makes this place the best on the net

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 31, 2003, 08:17 AM

I wish I had seen this sooner

I have that particular cooling system on my 9700 non pro

before I got it the highest I could get my core to go stable was around 290.

I put that on and some AS3 and now I can hit 325 easy and higher on a good day but i usually keep it at 325 so its synced up with my ram on the card

nonpro stock is 275/270

Silverfox · Mar 31, 2003, 08:33 PM

Hey! Thanks for the info from an actual user and benefactor of the product!

shuki · Mar 31, 2003, 09:18 PM

/me ordered mine today....

mgs · Apr 1, 2003, 07:57 AM

I bought my self an OEM 9700 pro from OCsystem plus the heat pipe and 8 ram sinks. The heat pipe is a very impresive sink. I am able to OC my card to 385/351 useing rivatuner. If i were you i would by the heat pipe instead. The only thing is i had to cut down 3 of the heat sinks so they would fit under the heat pipe. The sinks are about 1/2in tall i had to cut the to 5/16in, not a big deal but the ram on 9700 pro cards get very hot. if any thing get ram sinks. I also have a 131cfm 120mm YS fan blowing on the card. It really runing half that due to fan control. I spent less buying the OEM card + heatpipe + ram sinks. and overclocking it my self, than buying the OCsystem leval 2 card.

Silverfox · Apr 1, 2003, 02:50 PM

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don`t intend to OC the card too much ! Just looking for a small add-on that will help somewhat. But it sounds like you definitely performed the most logical mod for the money, and got a great boost over the cards stock performance!

mgs · Apr 3, 2003, 05:17 AM

Even if you don't OC your card the heat pipe would still be a beater sink by far. I've tried countless sinks, and this one is the best one i've used yet. Easy to install. but the down side is that the heat pipe dosen't cover the sinks were as the other sink dose.

Silverfox · Apr 3, 2003, 05:24 AM

I know your probably correct in your assessment, but unfortunately I already ordered the other product, before I read your post the other day about the pipe. Oh well I will just try this one and if it sucks, whats another 30-40 bucks! Not much more than a tank of gas in my truck! Thanks again for all the help!

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 3, 2003, 11:38 PM

I can guarantee that you will be happy with this one

the advantage that it has is that it does indeed make better contact with the ram through the use of thermal pads.

Here is my secret for what I do though.

I dont use the thermal pads the contact the ram on the back. I put just a tiny bit of AS3 on each rear ram chip and then put the metal flush against it very carefully so as not to spread it around then then using the pins snap it down so that way its like having a huge heatsink for the ram on the back.

Silverfox · Apr 4, 2003, 12:15 AM

Thanks a bunch Crash, when It comes in the mail, I hope you dont mind if I bend your ear with a few questions if I need your help! Thanks again for your reply and help!

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 4, 2003, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silverfox
Thanks a bunch Crash, when It comes in the mail, I hope you dont mind if I bend your ear with a few questions if I need your help! Thanks again for your reply and help!

That is what Im here for

shuki · Apr 11, 2003, 08:43 PM

hey fox, whats up with this cooler m8?

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 14, 2003, 08:26 AM

actually he had a bit of bad luck installing it and the card died.

he accidentally left the thermal pad on the HSF then put the AS3 on it while installing it.

so it wasnt cooling it properly and damaged it.

but as long as you remove the thermal pad the installation goes fairly smoothly

Dom · Apr 14, 2003, 08:45 AM

I think I'm gonna get one of those coolers.

Silverfox · Apr 14, 2003, 05:18 PM

Like Crash said, dont judge the product by my mishap, he had good luck with his, and I simply made an assinine mistake on the installation. Just remember their is no instructions that come with the kit, so be sure and ask procedural questions. Believe me I asked plenty, and still overlooked an important step!

shuki · Apr 14, 2003, 05:34 PM

ouch

Dom · Apr 14, 2003, 07:38 PM

I have RAM sinks glued on my 9700Pro, how can I get them off to install the new HSF?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 14, 2003, 07:51 PM

very carefully... use extreme caution.. but i would use a hair dryer to warm it up (not too much) then a pice of plastic or cardbard sothing thats ging to keep you from danageing the brads traces... put it down on top and use a large flat screwdriver to gently pry them off ... but thats what i would do ...what ever you do there is allways that small risk of damage

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 14, 2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
I havent seen that mod but there are two telling facts.

1: its aluminium, fantastic for cooling.

2: its made by thermaltake a great company.

looks great to me and a nice price indeed.

I have seen it... would be much beter if it was made of copper

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 14, 2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
I have seen it... would be much beter if it was made of copper

copper is great for pulling heat off of cores, but copper has a tendency to hold in heat.

Aluminum is a bit slower at pulling heat off of cores but much much faster than copper at releasing that heat so that it can pull up more and keep a cooler temperature

thats why the best coolers are typically copper base with aluminum body

the copper will put it off fast and the aluminum will get rid of it faster

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 14, 2003, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silverfox
Like Crash said, dont judge the product by my mishap, he had good luck with his, and I simply made an assinine mistake on the installation. Just remember their is no instructions that come with the kit, so be sure and ask procedural questions. Believe me I asked plenty, and still overlooked an important step!

yup just an accident that could have happened to anyone....and I feel a bit at fault as I didnt specifically state to remove the existing heatpad from the new TT cooler.

Dom · Apr 16, 2003, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
I have RAM sinks glued on my 9700Pro, how can I get them off to install the new HSF?

I just played a game for an hour, shut down and gave the RAM sinks a little nudge and they came right off.

Mar 30, 2003, 10:50 PM	#1
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	9700 pro mod ? Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen or used this particular product modification on the 9700 pro, and if it will actually help minimize heat even if you don`t decide to overclock! Just thinking of applying some modification, to a new stock ATI 9700 pro that may increase its longevity and take some heat stress off the card whether I decide to overclock or not! Along with this mod they sell artic silver also that you can apply. The product is depicted on www.ocsystem.com/ocati90vidca.html Thanks for any replys!

Apr 1, 2003, 07:57 AM	#13
mgs DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Buy the Heat pipe I bought my self an OEM 9700 pro from OCsystem plus the heat pipe and 8 ram sinks. The heat pipe is a very impresive sink. I am able to OC my card to 385/351 useing rivatuner. If i were you i would by the heat pipe instead. The only thing is i had to cut down 3 of the heat sinks so they would fit under the heat pipe. The sinks are about 1/2in tall i had to cut the to 5/16in, not a big deal but the ram on 9700 pro cards get very hot. if any thing get ram sinks. I also have a 131cfm 120mm YS fan blowing on the card. It really runing half that due to fan control. I spent less buying the OEM card + heatpipe + ram sinks. and overclocking it my self, than buying the OCsystem leval 2 card.

Apr 3, 2003, 05:17 AM	#15
mgs DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	What's up Even if you don't OC your card the heat pipe would still be a beater sink by far. I've tried countless sinks, and this one is the best one i've used yet. Easy to install. but the down side is that the heat pipe dosen't cover the sinks were as the other sink dose.

Apr 14, 2003, 07:38 PM	#25
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Question... I have RAM sinks glued on my 9700Pro, how can I get them off to install the new HSF?

Apr 14, 2003, 07:51 PM	#26
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	very carefully... use extreme caution.. but i would use a hair dryer to warm it up (not too much) then a pice of plastic or cardbard sothing thats ging to keep you from danageing the brads traces... put it down on top and use a large flat screwdriver to gently pry them off ... but thats what i would do ...what ever you do there is allways that small risk of damage __________________

Mar 30, 2003, 11:39 PM	#2
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I havent seen that mod but there are two telling facts. 1: its aluminium, fantastic for cooling. 2: its made by thermaltake a great company. looks great to me and a nice price indeed.

Mar 30, 2003, 11:44 PM	Thread Starter #3
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Zardon for the reply, and Im like you, it looks pretty good for the nominal price, and all I really want to accomplish is reduce some heat off the card! Maybe some of the other guys that hang around here will respond with some actual unbiased reviews of this product!

Mar 30, 2003, 11:50 PM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I dont really see how you could go wrong at that price to be honest. its different if it was $50 or more. but I reckon if your core and ram are up to it, you should push more from them if you are into overclocking (also depends on your case temps). anyway if you do it right, it will be good for the card, cooling is always important......

Mar 31, 2003, 12:27 AM	#5
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	That is sweet! I wish I had seen it before I paid $30+just for ramsinks. Go for it dude, that is nice for an even nicer price

Mar 31, 2003, 12:38 AM	Thread Starter #6
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the reply and opinion. I think I will purchase the product and install the new stock ATI 9700pro in my system and record my various temps prior to adding on this cooling kit and then record the temp`s after I install this product on the card. Just try and see the actual differences! When I complete the recordings I`ll repost them here in the forum. Probably takes around a week to get it delivered!

Mar 31, 2003, 06:59 AM	#7
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	Silverfox, please do take the time to bench some temps and perf. before and after Really the only way to know.... I too wish I had seen this before ordering my $34 zalman....

Mar 31, 2003, 07:10 AM	Thread Starter #8
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Sure thing! It may be a week or so due to the delivery time and me getting around to installing all of it, but as much help as I personally get in these forums from alot of nice folks, that are nice enough to respond back with help for guys like myself, you can bet Im more than happy to respond back also!

Mar 31, 2003, 08:14 AM	#9
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	and thats what makes this place the best on the net

Mar 31, 2003, 08:17 AM	#10
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I wish I had seen this sooner I have that particular cooling system on my 9700 non pro before I got it the highest I could get my core to go stable was around 290. I put that on and some AS3 and now I can hit 325 easy and higher on a good day but i usually keep it at 325 so its synced up with my ram on the card nonpro stock is 275/270

Mar 31, 2003, 08:33 PM	Thread Starter #11
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Hey! Thanks for the info from an actual user and benefactor of the product!

Mar 31, 2003, 09:18 PM	#12
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	/me ordered mine today....

Apr 1, 2003, 02:50 PM	Thread Starter #14
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the suggestion, but I don`t intend to OC the card too much ! Just looking for a small add-on that will help somewhat. But it sounds like you definitely performed the most logical mod for the money, and got a great boost over the cards stock performance!

Apr 3, 2003, 05:24 AM	Thread Starter #16
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	I know your probably correct in your assessment, but unfortunately I already ordered the other product, before I read your post the other day about the pipe. Oh well I will just try this one and if it sucks, whats another 30-40 bucks! Not much more than a tank of gas in my truck! Thanks again for all the help!

Apr 3, 2003, 11:38 PM	#17
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I can guarantee that you will be happy with this one the advantage that it has is that it does indeed make better contact with the ram through the use of thermal pads. Here is my secret for what I do though. I dont use the thermal pads the contact the ram on the back. I put just a tiny bit of AS3 on each rear ram chip and then put the metal flush against it very carefully so as not to spread it around then then using the pins snap it down so that way its like having a huge heatsink for the ram on the back.

Apr 4, 2003, 12:15 AM	Thread Starter #18
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Thanks a bunch Crash, when It comes in the mail, I hope you dont mind if I bend your ear with a few questions if I need your help! Thanks again for your reply and help!

Apr 11, 2003, 08:43 PM	#20
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	hey fox, whats up with this cooler m8?

Apr 14, 2003, 08:26 AM	#21
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	actually he had a bit of bad luck installing it and the card died. he accidentally left the thermal pad on the HSF then put the AS3 on it while installing it. so it wasnt cooling it properly and damaged it. but as long as you remove the thermal pad the installation goes fairly smoothly

Apr 14, 2003, 08:45 AM	#22
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	I think I'm gonna get one of those coolers.

Apr 14, 2003, 05:18 PM	Thread Starter #23
Silverfox HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Like Crash said, dont judge the product by my mishap, he had good luck with his, and I simply made an assinine mistake on the installation. Just remember their is no instructions that come with the kit, so be sure and ask procedural questions. Believe me I asked plenty, and still overlooked an important step!

Apr 14, 2003, 05:34 PM	#24
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	ouch