Just got my new CPU...

Apr 21, 2003, 11:34 PM

ok well i have just gotten my Athlon XP 2100+ T-Bred B and i have OCed it to 11X190 (2090 MHz) but i can't get it past that... i have set my memory timings to 6-2-2-2. when i try to set the fsb to 200 windows wont start, when i leave the fsb at 190 and change the multiplyer to 11.5 windows wont boot, so can anyone figure out what i need to do to get past this? i have the voltage for the processor upped to 1.65V

dipstick · Apr 21, 2003, 11:41 PM

Leave the fsb at 190 for now and try changing the multiplier only. Also bump the voltage to 1.75v; who you kiddin with only 1.65v

Apr 21, 2003, 11:46 PM

lol, ok. And i have tried changing only the multiplyer... the only reason i didnt want to change the voltage on it to much was because i dont want to burn it out...

Apr 21, 2003, 11:57 PM

hey cool, it worked... i changed my cpu voltage to 1.75V and my RAM voltage to 2.7... and i could get up to 200 FSB... thats the highest i am raising that though... just the multiplyer from now on. but still... i am going to go try and get it up to 2.4 GHz...

EDIT: Ok, i have gotten my CPU up to 2.2 GHz as you know but i can't get it any higher... although i havent tried raising the voltage again... hmm... oh well....... anyway i think i will leave it at that. Unless i can get it to 2.4 ghz later which i would love to have my cpu outperform a P4 3 GHz!!!
EDIT2: Ok, i am leaving my cpu at 2.2 GHz... i got it to 2.3 GHz but i couldnt get it stable... and when i put the voltage up to 1.875V i had a serious error... so i decided to leave it at 2.2 GHz. But i think i may have left my voltage at higher than needed... is that bad?

dipstick · Apr 22, 2003, 12:27 AM

Excellent, very good to hear the good news. That is an awesome OC! I would have to say though, that you shouldn't really go over 1.85v. I want you to top my OC, that be unbelievable for a 1700+. Keep it going general, but watch out for those temps

Apr 22, 2003, 12:30 AM

the temp is 45 C and i have a 2100+... sorry to mislead you. lol

dipstick · Apr 22, 2003, 01:31 AM

heh, that's my fault. But even for a 2100, that is totally awesome. Also you're still safe with the temps, but I wouldn't let it go over 50c just to be safe.
GL

Apr 22, 2003, 01:47 AM

neither would i

DriveEuro · Apr 22, 2003, 04:51 AM

General, you will have a hard time getting up to 2400mhz. Trust me. The 1700B can get 2400 with stock voltage in some situations.

Apr 22, 2003, 10:38 PM

crap... so pretty much i would have been better off with a 1700B?

DriveEuro · Apr 23, 2003, 05:47 AM

Maybe... It's the luck of the draw. You didn't lose out on anything. You have a 500mhz overclock on a 90$ cpu. You are well off. I just bought a 1700B a couple days ago. It will arrive thursday, I just wanna see how nice they are...

shuki · Apr 23, 2003, 07:29 AM

General I have an xp2100 b and a v1.2 nf7-s. Mine is at 205x11.5 all day long at 1.825 vcore. Now that doesn't mean yours will I'm just saying maybe there's a wee bit more in her

Are you trying this dual channel with your two sticks listed in your sig? if so, I bet thats your problem. that pc2100 could definitely give you a serious error heh. I would take it out and just run single stick pc3200 in dimm slot 1 (closest to cpu) and see if you can go any further.

just remember, at any time you could corrupt your OS and have no choice but to format and reinstall losing all data on hdd.... wise to have all critical data backed up.

DriveEuro · Apr 23, 2003, 07:40 AM

Whoah, I never realized he was trying to use a stick of PC2100 to get to 200 also. WOW.

Apr 23, 2003, 10:46 PM

lol... yea pretty awesome huh? I bet you all think that i am the god of OCing i bet... well i'm not. I just never changed my sig... i only have the pc3200 in... but i will put it into the dimm slot 1

DriveEuro · Apr 24, 2003, 04:33 AM

That was sarcasm general. I knew you weren't running the 2100.

Kgentatszu] · Apr 24, 2003, 05:03 AM

hey guys
is running on PC 2100 rams Bad? why is that so?? and has it gotta do with O.cing the CPU?? i'm new at these................

shuki · Apr 24, 2003, 07:57 AM

running pc2100 is not bad at all at lower fsb speed. While there have been cases of pc2100 running a 200 fsb it is at very relaxed timings and select good sticks. pc2100 is only rated to run at 266mhz (which is 133 cpu). Now if you buy pc2700 you automatically go up to a 166 fsb rate by default. pc 3200 is rated to run 200fsb and pc3500 at 218fsb. So yeah, if you're starting with a rated 133 stick you have a definite hardware disadvantage. Now if you don't OC and are running at 133, pc2100 is fine

Kgentatszu] · Apr 24, 2003, 03:47 PM

those digits 133, 166, 218.......are they the memory's speed? so , basicly you mean that it is hard to overclock them (memory), right? if i were to do so , how?? and how do i check whether they are running on how many MHZ?

shuki · Apr 24, 2003, 04:55 PM

start a new thread maxwell and then we'll talk all about it

just don't want to highjack GS anymore here heh

DriveEuro · Apr 24, 2003, 05:44 PM

Shuki... Isn't PC3500 434? 217....?

shuki · Apr 24, 2003, 06:05 PM

yep you're right. 217.

BWX · Apr 24, 2003, 06:10 PM

This is kind-of related:

What is the best revision of the Abit NF7 to buy? How many are there? What is the latest revision, is it the best for OC and stability?

I am sure that will be my next purchase, unless they don't work w/ 9700pros

edit- I run my stick of crucial 2.5CL (2.5,3,3,7 default) pc2100 ram at 2,2,2,7 @282mhz everyday (266mhz default)- it goes much higher though.

DriveEuro · Apr 24, 2003, 06:44 PM

OK, NF7 (non s) is identical to the NF7-S other than that it doesn' have Firewire, SATA, or the better quality Soundstorm sound.

shuki · Apr 24, 2003, 06:55 PM

manf this has got to be a record for highjacks or highjack attempts

if you want to know about mem timings or the nf7 mobo why is it here in poor general stupids Got my new CPU thread

BWX your question is well deserving of its own thread as I'm sure others wonder the same thing! start up a new one m8 and lets leave poor GS alone heh

BWX · Apr 24, 2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shuki
manf this has got to be a record for highjacks or highjack attempts if you want to know about mem timings or the nf7 mobo why is it here in poor general stupids Got my new CPU thread BWX your question is well deserving of its own thread as I'm sure others wonder the same thing! start up a new one m8 and lets leave poor GS alone heh

LOL- yeah I know

- I thought it could be answered in one post- I'll start a new thread when I need to know- and I don't think it's a record by a long shot- lol

sajl · May 1, 2003, 01:07 AM

!

EDIT by TOSHIROOC:

Do not spam like this again, please.

May 1, 2003, 01:56 AM

good god stop spamming please. even i dont spam that much. Hell.. i will even go delete and old post of mine so THIS one isnt spam...

sajl · May 1, 2003, 02:22 AM

ok TOSHIROOC want happen again!

Lionhart · May 2, 2003, 12:53 PM

The new NF7-S rev2.0's officially support 400FSB (although I think the older one's do aswell with a bios update) and no bios corruption problems.

**Roadee** · May 2, 2003, 12:59 PM

It's good to see that you got that "10" count now Lionhart........do you feel better?? I wish they would change the requirment's from a 10 post limit to a one month limit on these contest's, sure would kill the spamming.

Apr 21, 2003, 11:34 PM	#1
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	Just got my new CPU... ok well i have just gotten my Athlon XP 2100+ T-Bred B and i have OCed it to 11X190 (2090 MHz) but i can't get it past that... i have set my memory timings to 6-2-2-2. when i try to set the fsb to 200 windows wont start, when i leave the fsb at 190 and change the multiplyer to 11.5 windows wont boot, so can anyone figure out what i need to do to get past this? i have the voltage for the processor upped to 1.65V

Apr 21, 2003, 11:57 PM	#4
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	hey cool, it worked... i changed my cpu voltage to 1.75V and my RAM voltage to 2.7... and i could get up to 200 FSB... thats the highest i am raising that though... just the multiplyer from now on. but still... i am going to go try and get it up to 2.4 GHz... EDIT: Ok, i have gotten my CPU up to 2.2 GHz as you know but i can't get it any higher... although i havent tried raising the voltage again... hmm... oh well....... anyway i think i will leave it at that. Unless i can get it to 2.4 ghz later which i would love to have my cpu outperform a P4 3 GHz!!! EDIT2: Ok, i am leaving my cpu at 2.2 GHz... i got it to 2.3 GHz but i couldnt get it stable... and when i put the voltage up to 1.875V i had a serious error... so i decided to leave it at 2.2 GHz. But i think i may have left my voltage at higher than needed... is that bad? Last edited by generalstupid; Apr 22, 2003 at 12:29 AM.

Apr 22, 2003, 04:51 AM	#9
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	General, you will have a hard time getting up to 2400mhz. Trust me. The 1700B can get 2400 with stock voltage in some situations. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 23, 2003, 05:47 AM	#11
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Maybe... It's the luck of the draw. You didn't lose out on anything. You have a 500mhz overclock on a 90$ cpu. You are well off. I just bought a 1700B a couple days ago. It will arrive thursday, I just wanna see how nice they are... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 23, 2003, 07:40 AM	#13
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Whoah, I never realized he was trying to use a stick of PC2100 to get to 200 also. WOW. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 21, 2003, 11:41 PM	#2
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Leave the fsb at 190 for now and try changing the multiplier only. Also bump the voltage to 1.75v; who you kiddin with only 1.65v

Apr 21, 2003, 11:46 PM	#3
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	lol, ok. And i have tried changing only the multiplyer... the only reason i didnt want to change the voltage on it to much was because i dont want to burn it out...

Apr 22, 2003, 12:27 AM	#5
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Excellent, very good to hear the good news. That is an awesome OC! I would have to say though, that you shouldn't really go over 1.85v. I want you to top my OC, that be unbelievable for a 1700+. Keep it going general, but watch out for those temps

Apr 22, 2003, 12:30 AM	#6
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	the temp is 45 C and i have a 2100+... sorry to mislead you. lol

Apr 22, 2003, 01:31 AM	#7
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	heh, that's my fault. But even for a 2100, that is totally awesome. Also you're still safe with the temps, but I wouldn't let it go over 50c just to be safe. GL

Apr 22, 2003, 01:47 AM	#8
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	neither would i

Apr 22, 2003, 10:38 PM	#10
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	crap... so pretty much i would have been better off with a 1700B?

Apr 23, 2003, 07:29 AM	#12
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	General I have an xp2100 b and a v1.2 nf7-s. Mine is at 205x11.5 all day long at 1.825 vcore. Now that doesn't mean yours will I'm just saying maybe there's a wee bit more in her Are you trying this dual channel with your two sticks listed in your sig? if so, I bet thats your problem. that pc2100 could definitely give you a serious error heh. I would take it out and just run single stick pc3200 in dimm slot 1 (closest to cpu) and see if you can go any further. just remember, at any time you could corrupt your OS and have no choice but to format and reinstall losing all data on hdd.... wise to have all critical data backed up.

Apr 23, 2003, 10:46 PM	#14
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	lol... yea pretty awesome huh? I bet you all think that i am the god of OCing i bet... well i'm not. I just never changed my sig... i only have the pc3200 in... but i will put it into the dimm slot 1

Apr 24, 2003, 04:33 AM	#15
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	That was sarcasm general. I knew you weren't running the 2100. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 24, 2003, 05:03 AM	#16
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	re hey guys is running on PC 2100 rams Bad? why is that so?? and has it gotta do with O.cing the CPU?? i'm new at these................

Apr 24, 2003, 07:57 AM	#17
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	running pc2100 is not bad at all at lower fsb speed. While there have been cases of pc2100 running a 200 fsb it is at very relaxed timings and select good sticks. pc2100 is only rated to run at 266mhz (which is 133 cpu). Now if you buy pc2700 you automatically go up to a 166 fsb rate by default. pc 3200 is rated to run 200fsb and pc3500 at 218fsb. So yeah, if you're starting with a rated 133 stick you have a definite hardware disadvantage. Now if you don't OC and are running at 133, pc2100 is fine

Apr 24, 2003, 03:47 PM	#18
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	those digits 133, 166, 218.......are they the memory's speed? so , basicly you mean that it is hard to overclock them (memory), right? if i were to do so , how?? and how do i check whether they are running on how many MHZ?

Apr 24, 2003, 04:55 PM	#19
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	start a new thread maxwell and then we'll talk all about it just don't want to highjack GS anymore here heh

Apr 24, 2003, 05:44 PM	#20
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Shuki... Isn't PC3500 434? 217....? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 24, 2003, 06:05 PM	#21
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	yep you're right. 217.

Apr 24, 2003, 06:10 PM	#22
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	This is kind-of related: What is the best revision of the Abit NF7 to buy? How many are there? What is the latest revision, is it the best for OC and stability? I am sure that will be my next purchase, unless they don't work w/ 9700pros edit- I run my stick of crucial 2.5CL (2.5,3,3,7 default) pc2100 ram at 2,2,2,7 @282mhz everyday (266mhz default)- it goes much higher though. __________________

Apr 24, 2003, 06:44 PM	#23
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	OK, NF7 (non s) is identical to the NF7-S other than that it doesn' have Firewire, SATA, or the better quality Soundstorm sound. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 24, 2003, 06:55 PM	#24
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	manf this has got to be a record for highjacks or highjack attempts if you want to know about mem timings or the nf7 mobo why is it here in poor general stupids Got my new CPU thread BWX your question is well deserving of its own thread as I'm sure others wonder the same thing! start up a new one m8 and lets leave poor GS alone heh

May 1, 2003, 01:07 AM	#26
sajl DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	! EDIT by TOSHIROOC: Do not spam like this again, please.

May 1, 2003, 01:56 AM	#27
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	good god stop spamming please. even i dont spam that much. Hell.. i will even go delete and old post of mine so THIS one isnt spam...

May 1, 2003, 02:22 AM	#28
sajl DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	ok TOSHIROOC want happen again!

May 2, 2003, 12:53 PM	#29
Lionhart DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	The new NF7-S rev2.0's officially support 400FSB (although I think the older one's do aswell with a bios update) and no bios corruption problems.

May 2, 2003, 12:59 PM	#30
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	It's good to see that you got that "10" count now Lionhart........do you feel better?? I wish they would change the requirment's from a 10 post limit to a one month limit on these contest's, sure would kill the spamming. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.