help pushing the 3 Ghz mark

procupine14 · Oct 1, 2007, 12:12 AM

so i got my 5200+ up to 2.989 Ghz and i can't get it up any higher stable my system is listed in the left. Any suggestions? I'm wondering if my RAM needs to be OCed to get a higher operating frequency or what i need to change to get it there.

ChaosMinionX · Oct 1, 2007, 12:52 AM

Wish I could help, but alas its been forever since I did AMD OCing.

procupine14 · Oct 1, 2007, 05:45 AM

its all good thanks though

josh2thad · Oct 1, 2007, 07:47 AM

throw up some stats and cpu-z shots.

procupine14 · Oct 1, 2007, 06:19 PM

maybe thats a little easier to see lol

also CPU voltage is at 1.375v
and "CPU / chipset HT voltage" is @ 1.35v <-- i have no idea what that is but its in BIOS with the advanced voltage options
and Chipset Core volts is 1.5v

procupine14 · Oct 2, 2007, 04:58 PM

also, could my instability be caused by a PSU that can't handle the extra voltage required to push this rig?

EDIT: so now I've clocked down to about 10% over stock speeds (sitting at a flat 2.9Ghz) and I'm having some problems.....when my system gets up to ner peak load with stress testing or with 3d mark i get random restarting.....i know it isn't a temp issue so that is definitely not the issue

so any thoughts?

josh2thad · Oct 2, 2007, 08:08 PM

Try setting your hypertransport multiplyer to x4. Hypertransport needs to stay around 1000Mhz *2000Mhz effective* to maintain stability.

procupine14 · Oct 3, 2007, 12:00 AM

so you mean that i need to take down my multiplier and then push the Bus speed through the roof?

honestly, i haven't ever really pushed my rig far enough to really get to know the whole OCing business and there are a lot of settings in my mother board that I am really unfamiliar with so i need some definite help

josh2thad · Oct 5, 2007, 11:08 AM

no, what i mean is drop your Hyper transport multiplier to about x4 so its around 960

Then your FSB @ 232*13= 3.016GHz

You may want to run your ram a tad loose and undercloked till you get the speed you want then tighten it up and crank the speed up, only way to do this is trial and error, i think your problem is your HT speed tho.

You also may want to take a look here x2 5200+ - SLI Zone Forums

procupine14 · Oct 7, 2007, 07:51 AM

Further testing shows that I can't get my computer to go past the Windows XP boot screen when the HT multiplier is down to X4

ChaosMinionX · Oct 7, 2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

Further testing shows that I can't get my computer to go past the Windows XP boot screen when the HT multiplier is down to X4

Could be due to the cooling your using.

procupine14 · Oct 8, 2007, 12:11 AM

as in that it is getting too hot and won't boot?

my processor is liquid cooled and my NB has a thermalright SLI edition cooler on it

ChaosMinionX · Oct 8, 2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

as in that it is getting too hot and won't boot?

my processor is liquid cooled and my NB has a thermalright SLI edition cooler on it

What are your temps like?

procupine14 · Oct 8, 2007, 01:37 AM

30C idle CPU
42C NB (idle)

ChaosMinionX · Oct 8, 2007, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

30C idle CPU
42C NB (idle)

Well its not chips temps, id chalk it up to unwilling silicon.

procupine14 · Oct 8, 2007, 04:44 PM

Yeah....i was kind of afraid of that. Even when I clock it back downand change that multiplier it refuses to boot. It basically comes up to the load screen and the HDD acts like its going to load and then just stops....no activity. So yeah looks like I'm not going higher than 2.9 with this chip

ChaosMinionX · Oct 8, 2007, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

Yeah....i was kind of afraid of that. Even when I clock it back downand change that multiplier it refuses to boot. It basically comes up to the load screen and the HDD acts like its going to load and then just stops....no activity. So yeah looks like I'm not going higher than 2.9 with this chip

You could always feed it more voltage since your on H2O

procupine14 · Oct 9, 2007, 05:16 PM

yeah i tried that too....it didn't work...just caused the same problems with locking up and freezing

EDIT: further thoughts

should i look at HT width?

or anything with RAM timings?

also chipset voltage

ChaosMinionX · Oct 9, 2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

yeah i tried that too....it didn't work...just caused the same problems with locking up and freezing

EDIT: further thoughts

should i look at HT width?

or anything with RAM timings?

also chipset voltage

Chipset voltage would have alot to do with it as well, same with timings if your RAM speed is increasing, then you need to either a) increase voltage b) loosen timings.

procupine14 · Oct 9, 2007, 07:18 PM

awesome well im going to try increasing RAM voltage and then i will report back if i get a result

procupine14 · Oct 10, 2007, 09:59 PM

well.....after extensive tweaking and cursing I got a boot at over 3 Ghz....but then it started restarting every few minutes.......WHY!!>!??!?!?!?!!?

how much voltage increase/timing decrease is needed or is safe in the case of voltage to get this thing going?

from what i've seen in this motherboard there is no way of adjusting the operating frequency of the RAM it appears to be locked at 800Mhz

Oct 1, 2007, 12:12 AM	#1
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	help pushing the 3 Ghz mark so i got my 5200+ up to 2.989 Ghz and i can't get it up any higher stable my system is listed in the left. Any suggestions? I'm wondering if my RAM needs to be OCed to get a higher operating frequency or what i need to change to get it there. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 1, 2007, 12:52 AM	#2
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Oct 1, 2007, 05:45 AM	Thread Starter #3
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	its all good thanks though __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 1, 2007, 06:19 PM	Thread Starter #5
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	maybe thats a little easier to see lol also CPU voltage is at 1.375v and "CPU / chipset HT voltage" is @ 1.35v <-- i have no idea what that is but its in BIOS with the advanced voltage options and Chipset Core volts is 1.5v __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU Last edited by procupine14; Oct 1, 2007 at 06:41 PM.

Oct 2, 2007, 04:58 PM	Thread Starter #6
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	also, could my instability be caused by a PSU that can't handle the extra voltage required to push this rig? EDIT: so now I've clocked down to about 10% over stock speeds (sitting at a flat 2.9Ghz) and I'm having some problems.....when my system gets up to ner peak load with stress testing or with 3d mark i get random restarting.....i know it isn't a temp issue so that is definitely not the issue so any thoughts? __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU Last edited by procupine14; Oct 2, 2007 at 05:41 PM.

Oct 1, 2007, 07:47 AM	#4
josh2thad DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	throw up some stats and cpu-z shots.

Oct 2, 2007, 08:08 PM	#7
josh2thad DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	just a thought... Try setting your hypertransport multiplyer to x4. Hypertransport needs to stay around 1000Mhz 2000Mhz effective to maintain stability.

Oct 3, 2007, 12:00 AM	Thread Starter #8
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	so you mean that i need to take down my multiplier and then push the Bus speed through the roof? honestly, i haven't ever really pushed my rig far enough to really get to know the whole OCing business and there are a lot of settings in my mother board that I am really unfamiliar with so i need some definite help __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU Last edited by procupine14; Oct 3, 2007 at 12:21 AM.

Oct 5, 2007, 11:08 AM	#9
josh2thad DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	no, what i mean is drop your Hyper transport multiplier to about x4 so its around 960 Then your FSB @ 232*13= 3.016GHz You may want to run your ram a tad loose and undercloked till you get the speed you want then tighten it up and crank the speed up, only way to do this is trial and error, i think your problem is your HT speed tho. You also may want to take a look here x2 5200+ - SLI Zone Forums

Oct 7, 2007, 07:51 AM	Thread Starter #10
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Further testing shows that I can't get my computer to go past the Windows XP boot screen when the HT multiplier is down to X4 __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 8, 2007, 12:11 AM	Thread Starter #12
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	as in that it is getting too hot and won't boot? my processor is liquid cooled and my NB has a thermalright SLI edition cooler on it __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 8, 2007, 01:37 AM	Thread Starter #14
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	30C idle CPU 42C NB (idle) __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 8, 2007, 04:44 PM	Thread Starter #16
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Yeah....i was kind of afraid of that. Even when I clock it back downand change that multiplier it refuses to boot. It basically comes up to the load screen and the HDD acts like its going to load and then just stops....no activity. So yeah looks like I'm not going higher than 2.9 with this chip __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 9, 2007, 05:16 PM	Thread Starter #18
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	yeah i tried that too....it didn't work...just caused the same problems with locking up and freezing EDIT: further thoughts should i look at HT width? or anything with RAM timings? also chipset voltage __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU Last edited by procupine14; Oct 9, 2007 at 06:54 PM.

Oct 9, 2007, 07:18 PM	Thread Starter #20
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	awesome well im going to try increasing RAM voltage and then i will report back if i get a result __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 10, 2007, 09:59 PM	Thread Starter #21
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	well.....after extensive tweaking and cursing I got a boot at over 3 Ghz....but then it started restarting every few minutes.......WHY!!>!??!?!?!?!!? how much voltage increase/timing decrease is needed or is safe in the case of voltage to get this thing going? from what i've seen in this motherboard there is no way of adjusting the operating frequency of the RAM it appears to be locked at 800Mhz __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU