Arctic Silver Voids Warranty

Zardon · Apr 26, 2003, 06:18 PM

Just saw this over at Hardocp today, and its very interesting reading. Id heard about this before. This came straight from AMD.

Artic Silver is made up of a matrix with conductive particles. There is the possibility of creating electrical shorts on the package. Any failed processor used w/ Artic Silver or any other thermal grease other than Shin Estu G 749 would be subject to warranty voiding.

Read at Xtreme Tek

Dom · Apr 26, 2003, 06:21 PM

And I just ordered a tube of AS3.

Zardon · Apr 26, 2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Dom
And I just ordered a tube of AS3.

Well I have to say ive used it in the past myself with no bad effects........ but ive been hearing this alot lately.

DriveEuro · Apr 26, 2003, 10:29 PM

You gotta be a putz if you manage to get AS3 on the bridges on the CPU OPGA....

URWORSTENEMY · Apr 26, 2003, 11:06 PM

I knew that. . .
. . . guess i should have shared what i knew

nme

BWX · Apr 27, 2003, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
You gotta be a putz if you manage to get AS3 on the bridges on the CPU OPGA....

Exactly... Just an escape rout for AMD.

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 27, 2003, 05:18 AM

I use AS3 mixed with copper to close my L3 bridges for unlocking the CPU

It's just bull period lol

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 27, 2003, 07:58 AM

that not true unless they just chaged it .... amd has tooken many many back with artic silver laped all over it..

ALSO, IF YOUR THAT WORRIED STILL USE IT BUT BEFORE YOU SEND IT IN CLEAN OF THE AS3 WITH WD40 AND THIER WILL BE NOTHING LEFT OF IT NO SIGHNS OF AS3 EVER BEING THERE

AMD HAS NEVER SSAID ANTHING ABOUT THAT EATHER

-={420}=- · Apr 27, 2003, 04:09 PM

WD40? Didn't it say somewhere in the AS3 instructions not to use WD40. I used 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean my processor...and it worked like a charm.

Dom · Apr 27, 2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by -={420}=-
WD40? Didn't it say somewhere in the AS3 instructions not to use WD40. I used 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean my processor...and it worked like a charm.

Alcohol? Eh, alcohol is an abrasive cleaner.

DriveEuro · Apr 27, 2003, 04:15 PM

I always use nail polish remover with acetone in it. Works so damn well.

-={420}=- · Apr 27, 2003, 06:18 PM

It did say in the AS3 instructions to use alcohol. It's the best because it evaporates so you can be sure nothing is left behind.

Dom · Apr 27, 2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by -={420}=-
It did say in the AS3 instructions to use alcohol. It's the best because it evaporates so you can be sure nothing is left behind.

Are you talking about using it on the heatsink or the CPU itself? I wouldn't use it on the CPU, alcohol can erode plastics.

DriveEuro · Apr 27, 2003, 09:12 PM

I use it on the core, and if some gets on the OPGA... 420... Nail polish remover evaporates d@mn fast also.

Dom · Apr 27, 2003, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
I use it on the core, and if some gets on the OPGA... 420... Nail polish remover evaporates d@mn fast also.

What exactly is the 'OPGA'?

DriveEuro · Apr 27, 2003, 09:21 PM

The entire area around the core.... The entire piece of "plastic" as you call it.

Dom · Apr 27, 2003, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
The entire area around the core.... The entire piece of "plastic" as you call it.

No, I didn't call it plastic. I said "alcohol can erode plastics". I assume a CPU is more delicate than plastic, so I wouldn't want to use it on my CPU.

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 28, 2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by Dom
What exactly is the 'OPGA'?

and just for reference

OPGA = Organic Pin Grid Array

Dom · Apr 28, 2003, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
and just for reference

OPGA = Organic Pin Grid Array

'Organic'? Is it?

DriveEuro · Apr 28, 2003, 01:41 AM

Well, the old Durons and T-Bird was cermanic (i think)

~~Crash Override~~ · Apr 28, 2003, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Dom
'Organic'? Is it?

This is what I was able to find

The new Athlon XP uses what AMD calls an organic pin grid array, which uses fiberglass, similar to that used on printed circuit boards. Using this packaging lowers impedance and costs less to manufacture. It is also noticably thinner and lighter than the ceramic used in the Thunderbird-based Athlons.

Dom · Apr 28, 2003, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
This is what I was able to find

The new Athlon XP uses what AMD calls an organic pin grid array, which uses fiberglass, similar to that used on printed circuit boards. Using this packaging lowers impedance and costs less to manufacture. It is also noticably thinner and lighter than the ceramic used in the Thunderbird-based Athlons.

So I shouldn't try and burn my processor out, spread some jam on it and give it a bite?

ToshiroOC · Apr 28, 2003, 03:29 AM

There are many things that qualify as "organic" that I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole

BWX · Apr 28, 2003, 03:33 AM

No silicon? (as in implant)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 28, 2003, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by -={420}=-
WD40? Didn't it say somewhere in the AS3 instructions not to use WD40. I used 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean my processor...and it worked like a charm.

well alcohol still leaves a fine resadue we stoped useing it @ motorala to clean the conectors bocouse of that it was cosuing chargeing problems ........... eather way your sending it in for replacement .... not cleaning it off for reuse here so wd40 works best ... only time not use wd40 and use alcohol is if your working with a good cpu even then it still leave a poorly conductive material residue behind

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 28, 2003, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Dom
No, I didn't call it plastic. I said "alcohol can erode plastics". I assume a CPU is more delicate than plastic, so I wouldn't want to use it on my CPU.

it's not plactic cirut board is like fiberglass ... its far from plastic

Dom · Apr 28, 2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
it's not plactic cirut board is like fiberglass ... its far from plastic

For God's sakes! Did you even read any of my posts? I NEVER SAID IT WAS PLASTIC!

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Apr 28, 2003, 06:39 PM

Hey Hey now lets not fight......as long as the proc is clean and works its all good right?

ToshiroOC · Apr 28, 2003, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Dom
For God's sakes! Did you even read any of my posts? I NEVER SAID IT WAS PLASTIC!

Everyone... deeeeep breath

~~shai~~ · Apr 29, 2003, 09:25 AM

group hug...
lol

Apr 26, 2003, 06:18 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Arctic Silver Voids Warranty Just saw this over at Hardocp today, and its very interesting reading. Id heard about this before. This came straight from AMD. Artic Silver is made up of a matrix with conductive particles. There is the possibility of creating electrical shorts on the package. Any failed processor used w/ Artic Silver or any other thermal grease other than Shin Estu G 749 would be subject to warranty voiding. Read at Xtreme Tek

Apr 26, 2003, 10:29 PM	#4
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Apr 27, 2003, 07:58 AM	#8
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	that not true unless they just chaged it .... amd has tooken many many back with artic silver laped all over it.. ALSO, IF YOUR THAT WORRIED STILL USE IT BUT BEFORE YOU SEND IT IN CLEAN OF THE AS3 WITH WD40 AND THIER WILL BE NOTHING LEFT OF IT NO SIGHNS OF AS3 EVER BEING THERE AMD HAS NEVER SSAID ANTHING ABOUT THAT EATHER __________________

Apr 27, 2003, 04:09 PM	#9
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	WD40? Didn't it say somewhere in the AS3 instructions not to use WD40. I used 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean my processor...and it worked like a charm. __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Apr 27, 2003, 04:15 PM	#11
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I always use nail polish remover with acetone in it. Works so damn well. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 26, 2003, 06:21 PM	#2
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	And I just ordered a tube of AS3.

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~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I use AS3 mixed with copper to close my L3 bridges for unlocking the CPU It's just bull period lol

Apr 27, 2003, 06:18 PM	#12
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Apr 27, 2003, 09:12 PM	#14
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I use it on the core, and if some gets on the OPGA... 420... Nail polish remover evaporates d@mn fast also. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 27, 2003, 09:21 PM	#16
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	The entire area around the core.... The entire piece of "plastic" as you call it. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 28, 2003, 01:41 AM	#20
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, the old Durons and T-Bird was cermanic (i think) __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Apr 28, 2003, 03:29 AM	#23
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	There are many things that qualify as "organic" that I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Apr 28, 2003, 03:33 AM	#24
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	No silicon? (as in implant)

Apr 28, 2003, 06:39 PM	#28
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Hey Hey now lets not fight......as long as the proc is clean and works its all good right?

Apr 29, 2003, 09:25 AM	#30
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	group hug... lol