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Old May 1, 2003, 04:07 PM   #1
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Best cooler for 9800pro

Hello,

So what are the best recommendations for an aftermarket cooler
for the 9800 pro. I don't want to remove the shim if I don't have
to.

Thanks!
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Old May 1, 2003, 05:11 PM   #2
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You may check this product out and contact OcSystems and see if it will fit on the 9800pro. I dont know for sure if it will. Website is: www.ocsystem.com/ocati90vidca.html You also can read about this kit on a thread in this particular forum titled 9700 Pro Mod? I purchased this kit and made a little mistake on the installation, but several guys have since used it with good success. The kit comes with no instructional procedures so be sure and read the thread mentioned above concerning the installation, and if it does fit your 9800 pro Im sure you will have no problems. It is reasonably priced for what you get. P.S. I just called the page up and it has been updated and yes it does fit the 9800 Pro. So your in business if you decide to purchase the kit ! You can also order a tube of the AS3 (artic silver from this same vendor)

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Old May 1, 2003, 05:31 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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Awesome, going to purchase that right away!
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Old May 1, 2003, 05:36 PM   #4
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Good Luck, and let us all know how it goes after the add-on !
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Old May 2, 2003, 01:46 AM   #5
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my 9800pro overheated and died
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Old May 2, 2003, 07:20 AM   #6
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Well I know you did not have time to order and receive the kit from Ocsystems yet, so what did you do in the way of OCing the card. Also what is your system specs? Also let us know what size power supply do you have?
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Old May 2, 2003, 11:33 AM   #7
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arjun: Which 9800pro? Hercules, Sapphire...other ??? Please give us more info...
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Old May 2, 2003, 11:35 AM   #8
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kuzujanakis: Eisai ellinas ??? If not, then just ignore...
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Old May 2, 2003, 01:36 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #9
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apotsi,

If "Eisai ellinas" is greek, you got me - I am. Only problem
is that I don't speak or read a word of it.

Hope it means something nice!
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Old May 2, 2003, 03:24 PM   #10
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It is greek. It means "Are you Greek?". Where from?
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Old May 2, 2003, 03:31 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #11
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My parents and grandparents are from Kavala. I haven't been, but my
wife and I plan on visiting in the next couple years. I have lots of relatives
there, most I have met from them coming here.
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Old May 2, 2003, 03:34 PM   #12
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OK. See you around... I have sent you a PM also...
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Old May 6, 2003, 05:19 PM   #13
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Looks like Hercules board comes with nice cooler.
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Old May 7, 2003, 05:05 AM   #14
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That cooler from ocsystem.com will not work on the 9800 Pro. It is made exactly for the 9700 Pro, and that's it. The 9800 has a slightly different layout of the transistors/caps, and from what I have read from others, it will not work.

Plus, ocysytem.com is one online retailer to stay away from.

Click here to look at their reseller rating

A 3.36 lifetime rating is very low, and the comments on the first page alone is enough to scare any conscientious consumer away.

"Be afraid...be very afraid"
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Old May 7, 2003, 05:41 AM   #15
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Quote:
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That cooler from ocsystem.com will not work on the 9800 Pro. It is made exactly for the 9700 Pro, and that's it. The 9800 has a slightly different layout of the transistors/caps, and from what I have read from others, it will not work.

Plus, ocysytem.com is one online retailer to stay away from.

Click here to look at their reseller rating

A 3.36 lifetime rating is very low, and the comments on the first page alone is enough to scare any conscientious consumer away.

"Be afraid...be very afraid"
youre pretty new to the board

I happen to own the cooling unit in question

it is not made by ocsystem they just sell it and i have bought many products from them without a single issue whatsoever

i dont take the word of just one site i research and go by experience of people i actually know

the cooling solutions is actually from thermaltake and is one of the best cooling solutions you can get for a radeon 9700Pro/9800Pro

it will fit both of them just fine and does its job well

heres proof in the form of pics regarding where things are on both a 9700 and 9800

top pic is 9800 bottom pic is 9700


my non pro was stuck at 275/250 stock

its now at 325/317 with not a prob


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Old May 7, 2003, 06:30 AM   #16
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Yes I am new to this board Crash Override...nice to meet you. And thanks for the warm welcome.

Just to address a couple of your rermarks...I never said it was a bad cooler or that Thermaltake did not make quality hardware. I merely stated two things. One, that I doesn't fit the 9800 Pro, just the 9700 Pro. Do you own a 9800 Pro? If not, how could you comment on whether it fits properly or not? Have you heard from a 9800 Pro owner who has used it?

Look at the pictures here
or even a better more close up comparison of the right side of the card here

Do you see the difference in the layout on the right side of the card? That cooler will not fit the 9800 Pro because there are capacitors in the way that are not present or in a different spot on the 9700 Pro. And the way the cooler reaches over to the far right side edge of the card, it simply does not accomadate the design change of the 9800.

And second, my comments on ocsystem.com is not just my opinion. Resellerrating.com is the reference site on the Internet if you want to look up the track record of an online retailer. It currently contains over 75,000 reviews on over 3,900 companies. While I am glad that you have made many purchases from ocsystem.com without a hitch, you can read for yourself that there are countless other people who have not had as good of an expierence with them as you have. The rating of a company listed on resellerrating.com is not the opinion of one site, but rather a cumulative overall rating based on testimonials from thousands upon thousans of consumers.


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Old May 7, 2003, 06:44 AM   #17
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my reply to you wasnt a flame by the way and you are welcome to use the board

you didnt look at the way the cooler is oriented

if you look at the shape of the TT cooler it will fit the 9800Pro

but not the ones that you have shown nor the one i posted

none of those are BBA 9800's i just noticed

none of them have the ATi logo silkscreened onto them
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Old May 7, 2003, 06:56 AM   #18
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No problem...I didn't take your post as a flame. But until someone has posted that they have used this particular cooler on a 9800 Pro, I don't think it's fair to say that it fits. Even the page at Thermaltake describing the reference cooler makes no reference to the 9800.

I guess we'll have to wait to hear from kuzujanakis on whether it fits or not.

I'll bet you lunch it doesn't
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Old May 7, 2003, 07:07 AM   #19
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Thumbs Up!

Crash is right about the TT kit fitting the 9800 pro. I recommended this cooler to this thread- starter, and at the initial time I replied to him, I too was not sure if it would fit the 9800pro. I have the 9700 pro and it does fit it. I called up Ocsystems website again and yes it does mod the 9800 pro the same as the 9700 cards. The website is www.ocsystem.com/ocati90vidca.html I have not ordered as many items from this vendor as Crash has, but the few times I have, the shipping and tech support has been just fine. You know its not like your ordering a thousand dollars worth of goods from these folks. Around 30 bucks for the cooler and a tube of AS3 is not a bundle of cash. Some of these vendors, do screw people around from time to time, and Im sure the re-seller rating is kind of like some folks credit reports. Once you screw it up, it takes a long time to get a good rating. I personally think the vendor OCsystems, is trying to do right now, so give em another chance. What`s 30 bucks! About a tank of gas in my truck !
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Old May 7, 2003, 07:50 AM   #20
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Hi Silverfox...

I don't mean to thread crap or start a flame war. Really. The last thing I am is a good flamer.

And heck I just got here. I'd like to make a good first impression. I consider myself a nice guy and I'm just trying to look out for people and offer any advice I think might be helpful.

I also owned this cooler, but I recently sold it to mod my 9700 Pro like this.

Here's a look at my 3DMark Scores with it.
3DMark03
3DMark01

As far as ocsystem, I've had my own dealings with them (not just with buying this cooler) and it's my belief they'll tell you almost anything to get you off the phone. That is, if you can even get through to them on the phone. Really, I think they offer such hot looking stuff that people are flocking to them in droves and they don't have the staffing to handle all of their business. They also have a b&m retail store there in CA and between that and the online site, I think they're just overwhelmed.

Follow the link to their reseller rating in my first post and read just the first couple of pages. People don't just make stuff like that up. Tons of people are having truly horrible experiences with them. And 3.36 is a horrible rating. While your at resellerrating.com, look up someone like newegg.com. They have a 9.81 rating, and that's with almost 4000 people leaving comments on their buying experience with them.

Anyway...all that aside, I'll still bet you (and Crash) lunch that cooler won't fit the 9800 Pro (even though ocsystem said it would).

But you'll have to come to Denver to claim it.
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Old May 7, 2003, 08:22 AM   #21
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in your case it would be washington for you to claim yours for me and I cant remember where Silverfox is

but i think for some of the 9800Pros it will fit them otherwise ocsystem would have to eat their own words pretty quickly

btw if you wanna talk about horrible support and cheating customers try dealing with GameVE

I have never had anything but problems with them

The company I trust the most for anything but mod gear *since they dont really carry it* is googlegear

ive done lots of business with them as well and boy are they good guys
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Old May 7, 2003, 08:53 AM   #22
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Yep...agreed Googlegear has a 8.20 RS rating and they've always done right by me as well.

I'm looking forward to kuzujanakis getting his cooler so he can let us know if it fits the 9800 or not.

Nite all...
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Hello people,

You guys are making me nervous!!! I did order the cooler. It is scheduled to arrive
tomorrow via UPS.

I will let you know immediately!

Later.
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Kuzujanakis, just remember not to hesitate and ask all the questions you feel pertinent to the installation. If you have a 9800 pro (ATI), hopefully it will fit just fine. If you haven`t yet, go to the thread titled: 9700 Pro Mod, posted previously in this same forum section, and most of your concerns should be addressed. Good Luck! Crash is pretty much the guru on this installation, so address your questions directly to him. (AS3 amounts and placement locations.)
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Yep, I do have the 9800pro... And like most people on this board, I am not satisfied with default
performance and that is why I am getting the cooler. I will review that other thread, thanks. I will
also let everyone know the results when I get it together tomorrow.
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Kuzujanakis, just remember if you plan on using the AS3 (artic silver), to remove the Thermaltakes existing square thermal pad they place on the fan side(HSF). Scrape it off, and clean the blue plate surface with alcohol, are nail polish remover. Thats the one step I overlooked and screwed-up on. Again Good Luck !
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Yep, I will most definitely be using AS3 - thanks for the tip!

I just hope the thing fits my 9800...
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a whole day and hes not back yet

/me starts looking nervously into my wallet to see only moths flying out
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According to the UPS website, that cooler is sitting at my house. Unfortunately, I am at work and I won't know until later this evening if it works...

I hate waiting.
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I hate the waiting game too. I'm a total hardware geek when it comes to computers and even Overnight service is not fast enough sometimes.

I just got my built by ATI retail 9800 Pro last night.

It runs very hot on the backside of the PCB just like the 9700. But even if the cooler kuzujanakis ordered works (which you already know how I feel about it fitting) I think I'm going to mod it just like I did my 9700. I don't think ramsinks (or having them covered like that cooler does) helps o'cing the ram much ...if at all. I'd rather have the ram uncovered and open to the air and just have some cool air blowing over it...like from a case side panel fan. But I don't want to get into a ramsink or no ransink argument. I say, "to each his own".

Hey kuzujanakis...aren't you feeling reeeally sick right now?? I think it would probably be best if you went home immediately and spent the rest of the day in bed?
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