New to overclocking

smurfdude · Dec 12, 2007, 04:51 AM

Soon I'll have a Q6600 G0 stepping 95w edition (apparently runs cooler)

I've never overclocked a CPU in my life, but all I ever hear about is overclocking this and overclocking that. So i'm interested

From what i can gather the Q6600 has 4 cores, each one running at 2.4ghz. Right so obviously the higher that goes, the faster my PC will go, simple enough

But obviously what deters me is the thought of my brand new CPU melting and me bursting into tears. So really what I want to know is, what would be a happy medium to overclock this to? Like, higher than stock, but not so high it's on its limit

Ill have a slightly better after market cooler so i guess that'll help, and ill have a 750w PSU, so power isnt really an issue

Also if I increased the speed to only 2.5ghz, would it shorten the lifetime considerably? Or does it really need to be running right on the edge for it to die a lot sooner?

If I can run my CPU faster without putting it at any more risk, then I'd like to do it

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 05:00 AM

there is ALWAYS a risk when overclocking, and you do void the warranty on nearly every component in your machine unless otherwise noted.

you should however, be able to get 2.8-3.0GHz on your setup

your memory will severely limit your performance in this area, thats why i suggested going for a better set.

you basically bump the FSB until you cant go anymore, adjust settings and go at it again. DDR2 1066 and higher is recommended so you dont blow up the RAM

simple but it requires quality key components to be successful.

also, can i have the particular model of cooler you're using?

smurfdude · Dec 12, 2007, 05:11 AM

Blow up memory? How would I make sure not to do that?

The cooler is

Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler - Ebuyer

Its a bundle deal

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 05:23 AM

ahh the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, its a very good cooler for the price you can easily keep a 2.8-3.0GHz CPU nice and cool.

the thing with silicon is that heat is what damages it ultimately, not just overclocking. the colder the chip the longer it lasts.

and the memory, the chips on those sticks are very poor perfomers and may pop if increased too far. if you had asked us before you went and ordered everything, i would have recommended something with Micron D9 ICs, the best for this purpose.

when the FSB is increased, the memory speed is also ramped up, most people recommend a 1:1 ratio FSB to DRAM setting, the FSB increases proportionally to the memory speed, good enough for a basic OC, D9s for the most part can go to 1200MHz and be stable at 5-5-5-18 2T

Crucial memory is the best to get and cheapest if you are interested.

those Corsair sticks probably can't crack 900MHz without ridiculously raising memory timings

changing the FSB to DRAM ratio to something of 4:3 is a good workaround for this.

smurfdude · Dec 12, 2007, 05:34 AM

So would a pair of these be better for overclocking?

Crucial 1GB DDR2 PC2-6400/800MHz CL4-4-4-12 Ballistix 2.2V SLI Ready - Ebuyer

Theres no way can I afford anything faster than DDR2 6400

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 05:38 AM

those are perfect! DDR2 D9GMH packing sticks right there.

they only say DDR2 800 but they can run DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2T

Kazeko · Dec 12, 2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

those are perfect! DDR2 D9GMH packing sticks right there.

they only say DDR2 800 but they can run DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2T

DDR2 1066 (a.k.a. PC2-8500) is just factory overclocked DDR2 standard (800mhz/PC2-6400) overclocked and retuned to compensate for higher performance. - Typically higher voltage.

And upper end D9 IC's can likely do 4-4-4-12-2T @ 1066mhz without altering the voltage in the slightest. - I have yet to run into errors in P95 testing.

Read: The D9GMH in the Ballistix series.

(For future reference, Crucial Memory is Micron's own brand.)

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazeko

DDR2 1066 (a.k.a. PC2-8500) is just factory overclocked DDR2 standard (800mhz/PC2-6400) overclocked and retuned to compensate for higher performance. - Typically higher voltage.

And upper end D9 IC's can likely do 4-4-4-12-2T @ 1066mhz without altering the voltage in the slightest. - I have yet to run into errors in P95 testing.

Read: The D9GMH in the Ballistix series.

(For future reference, Crucial Memory is Micron's own brand.)

exactly what he said, but you need to be pretty lucky to get 1066MHz 4-4-4-12 2T, theres pretty high chances you can do it but i dont recommend running it without testing the sticks at that speed first.

PangingJr · Dec 12, 2007, 06:52 AM

all Micron (D9) ICs vary in overclocking ability, but it all seems to me that the ones in the Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 modules are likely to be less hit and miss (than buying other memory kits).
i have to hand it to the Ballistix PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066MHz) DDR2 2GB (2x1GB) memory kit, for best overclocker memory kit in its class and its price, for today's buying price in the US. (too bad i can't buy one with low price like that), it's best bank for the buck DDR2 memory kit. the overclocking results with this memory kit is very very good.

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 07:05 AM

$99 is the cheapest thing i seen ever man Crucial Ballistix 1066..... i remember 2 years ago, the same exact RAM was 1200 dollars. today we can 12 sets for that same price, probably better ICs too.

PangingJr · Dec 12, 2007, 10:34 AM

low CPU FSB, low CPU multiplier and high memory multiplier, all these might allow a certain memory to overclock further, and some memory reviewers out there likes to do this to show you.
but you will probably find that when you overclock your system FSB and CPU to at above certain amount some memory won't overclock well at all or any more, some just craps out on you at high CPU FSB.
so be careful when shopping for a memory kit for overclocking needs.

Dyre Straits · Dec 12, 2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

.......

when the FSB is increased, the memory speed is also ramped up, most people recommend a 1:1 ratio FSB to DRAM setting, the FSB increases proportionally to the memory speed, good enough for a basic OC, D9s for the most part can go to 1200MHz and be stable at 5-5-5-18 2T

......

The highlighted statement is not necessarily true depending on the motherboard's BIOS features. Many of today's motherboards allow for Memory clocks to be Unlinked from the CPU FSB. So, if the CPU can be overclocked better than the RAM's ability, you can push the CPU to its limits and adjust the RAM accordingly.

However, if your overall goal is to maintain the 1:1 CPU:RAM ratio, this defeats the goal in most cases. A lot depends on the quality of the components being used.

The major goal should be overall increase in performance AND system stability.

(I hope I said all that properly.

)

PangingJr · Dec 12, 2007, 11:08 AM

too bad, the option to unlink system memory from CPU FSB and overclock the memory seperately is still not an available option in today's Intel chipset motherboard.

smurfdude · Dec 12, 2007, 01:55 PM

Right ok I will swap the consair memory for 2 crucial sticks. May aswell for only an extra £12

I done a bit of searching on the motherboard manufacturers website and found they do their own program which lets you overclock in windows. So it would probably be worthwhile for me to use this rather than mess about in the bios?

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfdude

Right ok I will swap the consair memory for 2 crucial sticks. May aswell for only an extra £12

I done a bit of searching on the motherboard manufacturers website and found they do their own program which lets you overclock in windows. So it would probably be worthwhile for me to use this rather than mess about in the bios?

no, windows clocking is not recommended at all, some have been known to set BIOS settings to the point that it damages system components.

**kris23** · Dec 12, 2007, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

The highlighted statement is not necessarily true depending on the motherboard's BIOS features. Many of today's motherboards allow for Memory clocks to be Unlinked from the CPU FSB. So, if the CPU can be overclocked better than the RAM's ability, you can push the CPU to its limits and adjust the RAM accordingly.

However, if your overall goal is to maintain the 1:1 CPU:RAM ratio, this defeats the goal in most cases. A lot depends on the quality of the components being used.

The major goal should be overall increase in performance AND system stability.

(I hope I said all that properly.

)

lol Dyre the ONLY Intel board that i know can do that are the nForce 680i series boards..... he has a lower P5K no 680i man

his board will operate how i explained it depending on his ratio setting 1:1, 2:3, 1:2 etc. whatever his board allows.

smurfdude · Dec 12, 2007, 06:54 PM

I wouldn't mind getting it up around 3.0ghz. I've read that loads of people have easily got it much higher, but as i said i don't want to push it too far

Is there any beginner guides you can recommend which are newbie friendly and explain step by step on how to do this?

procupine14 · Dec 12, 2007, 07:54 PM

I haven't found a brand new one for quad core chips but seeing as i haven't been looking for it that probably explains a lot

Dyre Straits · Dec 12, 2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

lol Dyre the ONLY Intel board that i know can do that are the nForce 680i series boards..... he has a lower P5K no 680i man

his board will operate how i explained it depending on his ratio setting 1:1, 2:3, 1:2 etc. whatever his board allows.

I was taking your comment as a 'general statement' as opposed to a specific statement to the particular motherboard. Taken on its surface, it could be misleading if he were to upgrade to a newer motherboard that does have Unlinking as a feature.

Also, by changing the ratio, it 'somewhat' results in the same thing although we know it's not as good of a solution.

And, yes, I've worked with the 680i and 650i chipsets. Nice, nice features.

They do both have Unlink as a feature.

cozumel · Dec 13, 2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfdude

I wouldn't mind getting it up around 3.0ghz. I've read that loads of people have easily got it much higher, but as i said i don't want to push it too far

Is there any beginner guides you can recommend which are newbie friendly and explain step by step on how to do this?

Here is a guide. I haven't read it so I don't know if it is helpful or user-friendly...

PangingJr · Dec 13, 2007, 09:12 AM

i think, one main advantage that the nForce 680i's chipset-based memory controller has over the Intel chipset-based boards would be, the users are able to run the memory frequency at lower than the CPU FSB frequency. but are there any advantage in terms of performance improvements to running the system memory like that?

i always feel like there must be a whole lot of real advantage about the memory controller in nForce 680i's chipset-based boards, i guess i will never understand for sure untill i try one myself.

smurfdude · Dec 13, 2007, 05:27 PM

I've been reading some guides and I think i understand the main concept of it all. Basically increase the FSB slightly, then run a benchmark to test stability & temps, then increase a little more and repeat.

If the system becomes unstable increase the volts going to the CPU a tiny bit and try again

Still a bit confused with the cpu/memory ratio stuff

If my memory runs at 800mhz, then for a 1:1 ratio wouldn't that mean my fsb would need to run at that too? Which is way too high isnt it?

Dyre Straits · Dec 13, 2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfdude

I've been reading some guides and I think i understand the main concept of it all. Basically increase the FSB slightly, then run a benchmark to test stability & temps, then increase a little more and repeat.

If the system becomes unstable increase the volts going to the CPU a tiny bit and try again

Still a bit confused with the cpu/memory ratio stuff

If my memory runs at 800mhz, then for a 1:1 ratio wouldn't that mean my fsb would need to run at that too? Which is way too high isnt it?

You might find this helpful:

Understanding PC Overclocking - The Computer Forums

ChaosMinionX · Dec 13, 2007, 08:27 PM

I must have missed it but what P5K do you have?

Anyways heres the options for OCing it....

I would suggest the following.

CPU Multiplier - 8x (3.2ghz) or 9x (3.6ghz)
FSB - 400mhz
CPU vCore - 1.4-1.45v
FSB voltage - 1.4v
NB (North Bridge) Voltage - 1.55v
CPU PLL - 1.5-1.6v
CPU REF Voltage - .63x
NB REF Voltage - .63/.67x

That should do you, of course disable CPU/PCIE Spread Spectrum>

Going to 400mhz leaves you the dividers open, as well as a balanced range of DRAM Speeds 800/1000/1200mhz etc

If you have any further questions post

EDIT: I would recommend buying a new cooler as well.... some that will do - Thermalright Ultra120Extreme, Tuniq Tower, Thermalright Ultra120, Thermalright Ultima90, Enzotech Extreme-X. Those are all light years better than the Arctic Freezer on quads, would also recommend picking up a tube of AC MX2 thermal paste.

**kris23** · Dec 13, 2007, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

I must have missed it but what P5K do you have?

Anyways heres the options for OCing it....

I would suggest the following.

CPU Multiplier - 8x (3.2ghz) or 9x (3.6ghz)
FSB - 400mhz
CPU vCore - 1.4-1.45v
FSB voltage - 1.4v
NB (North Bridge) Voltage - 1.55v
CPU PLL - 1.5-1.6v
CPU REF Voltage - .63x
NB REF Voltage - .63/.67x

That should do you, of course disable CPU/PCIE Spread Spectrum>

Going to 400mhz leaves you the dividers open, as well as a balanced range of DRAM Speeds 800/1000/1200mhz etc

If you have any further questions post

EDIT: I would recommend buying a new cooler as well.... some that will do - Thermalright Ultra120Extreme, Tuniq Tower, Thermalright Ultra120, Thermalright Ultima90, Enzotech Extreme-X. Those are all light years better than the Arctic Freezer on quads, would also recommend picking up a tube of AC MX2 thermal paste.

he has the basic P5K with no RAID, he don't got enough money for a new cooler man.

and he has an extreme fear of blowing up his machine, so i dont recommend that he try your upped voltage settings..

ChaosMinionX · Dec 14, 2007, 02:06 AM

Those are moderate voltages though

**kris23** · Dec 14, 2007, 02:29 AM

but were talking you..... a guy who spent 1200 on DDR2 a few weeks ago or something

a guy whos got the CRAP load of cooling and THE best parts one can get their hands on and a BUTTLOAD of extra cash for another setup.

moderate for you is like upper beyond 60C need better cooling or my CPU will burn a hole through my table kind of OCing....

i think all he needs is a moderate (my definition of moderate) stock volt OC to 2.8-3.0 or whatever he gets to so he doesnt permanently damage anything on accident.

smurfdude · Dec 14, 2007, 03:42 PM

Yeah for sure, ill be more than happy with a moderate OC that doesnt run much hotter than stock. 3.0ish would be great, cause I think thats what the E6850 run at and thats what I was first going to buy until I decided to go quad core

josh2thad · Dec 15, 2007, 07:28 PM

i would go for the 400x8 = 3.2 setting. shouldn't require that much voltage, i run it with decent temps on a B3... so a G0 should be good as gold.

**kris23** · Dec 15, 2007, 07:56 PM

3.2Ghz at a 1600Mhz FSB sounds good his RAM can take 800 at a good 3-4-4-8 i suppose

hey smurfdude, what kind of thermal compound did you use? if you used the stuff on the heatsink then good, if you used Arctic silver 5, change it for Tuniq TX-2 compound for the best performance.

Dec 12, 2007, 04:51 AM	#1
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	New to overclocking Soon I'll have a Q6600 G0 stepping 95w edition (apparently runs cooler) I've never overclocked a CPU in my life, but all I ever hear about is overclocking this and overclocking that. So i'm interested From what i can gather the Q6600 has 4 cores, each one running at 2.4ghz. Right so obviously the higher that goes, the faster my PC will go, simple enough But obviously what deters me is the thought of my brand new CPU melting and me bursting into tears. So really what I want to know is, what would be a happy medium to overclock this to? Like, higher than stock, but not so high it's on its limit Ill have a slightly better after market cooler so i guess that'll help, and ill have a 750w PSU, so power isnt really an issue Also if I increased the speed to only 2.5ghz, would it shorten the lifetime considerably? Or does it really need to be running right on the edge for it to die a lot sooner? If I can run my CPU faster without putting it at any more risk, then I'd like to do it

Dec 12, 2007, 05:00 AM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	there is ALWAYS a risk when overclocking, and you do void the warranty on nearly every component in your machine unless otherwise noted. you should however, be able to get 2.8-3.0GHz on your setup your memory will severely limit your performance in this area, thats why i suggested going for a better set. you basically bump the FSB until you cant go anymore, adjust settings and go at it again. DDR2 1066 and higher is recommended so you dont blow up the RAM simple but it requires quality key components to be successful. also, can i have the particular model of cooler you're using? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 12, 2007, 05:23 AM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	ahh the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, its a very good cooler for the price you can easily keep a 2.8-3.0GHz CPU nice and cool. the thing with silicon is that heat is what damages it ultimately, not just overclocking. the colder the chip the longer it lasts. and the memory, the chips on those sticks are very poor perfomers and may pop if increased too far. if you had asked us before you went and ordered everything, i would have recommended something with Micron D9 ICs, the best for this purpose. when the FSB is increased, the memory speed is also ramped up, most people recommend a 1:1 ratio FSB to DRAM setting, the FSB increases proportionally to the memory speed, good enough for a basic OC, D9s for the most part can go to 1200MHz and be stable at 5-5-5-18 2T Crucial memory is the best to get and cheapest if you are interested. those Corsair sticks probably can't crack 900MHz without ridiculously raising memory timings changing the FSB to DRAM ratio to something of 4:3 is a good workaround for this. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 12, 2007, 05:38 AM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	those are perfect! DDR2 D9GMH packing sticks right there. they only say DDR2 800 but they can run DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2T __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 12, 2007, 07:05 AM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	$99 is the cheapest thing i seen ever man Crucial Ballistix 1066..... i remember 2 years ago, the same exact RAM was 1200 dollars. today we can 12 sets for that same price, probably better ICs too. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 12, 2007, 05:11 AM	Thread Starter #3
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Blow up memory? How would I make sure not to do that? The cooler is Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler - Ebuyer Its a bundle deal

Dec 12, 2007, 05:34 AM	Thread Starter #5
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	So would a pair of these be better for overclocking? Crucial 1GB DDR2 PC2-6400/800MHz CL4-4-4-12 Ballistix 2.2V SLI Ready - Ebuyer Theres no way can I afford anything faster than DDR2 6400

Dec 12, 2007, 06:52 AM	#9
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	all Micron (D9) ICs vary in overclocking ability, but it all seems to me that the ones in the Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 modules are likely to be less hit and miss (than buying other memory kits). i have to hand it to the Ballistix PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066MHz) DDR2 2GB (2x1GB) memory kit, for best overclocker memory kit in its class and its price, for today's buying price in the US. (too bad i can't buy one with low price like that), it's best bank for the buck DDR2 memory kit. the overclocking results with this memory kit is very very good.

Dec 12, 2007, 10:34 AM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	low CPU FSB, low CPU multiplier and high memory multiplier, all these might allow a certain memory to overclock further, and some memory reviewers out there likes to do this to show you. but you will probably find that when you overclock your system FSB and CPU to at above certain amount some memory won't overclock well at all or any more, some just craps out on you at high CPU FSB. so be careful when shopping for a memory kit for overclocking needs.

Dec 12, 2007, 11:08 AM	#13
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	too bad, the option to unlink system memory from CPU FSB and overclock the memory seperately is still not an available option in today's Intel chipset motherboard.

Dec 12, 2007, 01:55 PM	Thread Starter #14
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Right ok I will swap the consair memory for 2 crucial sticks. May aswell for only an extra £12 I done a bit of searching on the motherboard manufacturers website and found they do their own program which lets you overclock in windows. So it would probably be worthwhile for me to use this rather than mess about in the bios?

Dec 12, 2007, 06:54 PM	Thread Starter #17
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	I wouldn't mind getting it up around 3.0ghz. I've read that loads of people have easily got it much higher, but as i said i don't want to push it too far Is there any beginner guides you can recommend which are newbie friendly and explain step by step on how to do this?

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Dec 13, 2007, 09:12 AM	#21
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	i think, one main advantage that the nForce 680i's chipset-based memory controller has over the Intel chipset-based boards would be, the users are able to run the memory frequency at lower than the CPU FSB frequency. but are there any advantage in terms of performance improvements to running the system memory like that? i always feel like there must be a whole lot of real advantage about the memory controller in nForce 680i's chipset-based boards, i guess i will never understand for sure untill i try one myself.

Dec 13, 2007, 05:27 PM	Thread Starter #22
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	I've been reading some guides and I think i understand the main concept of it all. Basically increase the FSB slightly, then run a benchmark to test stability & temps, then increase a little more and repeat. If the system becomes unstable increase the volts going to the CPU a tiny bit and try again Still a bit confused with the cpu/memory ratio stuff If my memory runs at 800mhz, then for a 1:1 ratio wouldn't that mean my fsb would need to run at that too? Which is way too high isnt it?

Dec 13, 2007, 08:27 PM	#24
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,910 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	I must have missed it but what P5K do you have? Anyways heres the options for OCing it.... I would suggest the following. CPU Multiplier - 8x (3.2ghz) or 9x (3.6ghz) FSB - 400mhz CPU vCore - 1.4-1.45v FSB voltage - 1.4v NB (North Bridge) Voltage - 1.55v CPU PLL - 1.5-1.6v CPU REF Voltage - .63x NB REF Voltage - .63/.67x That should do you, of course disable CPU/PCIE Spread Spectrum> Going to 400mhz leaves you the dividers open, as well as a balanced range of DRAM Speeds 800/1000/1200mhz etc If you have any further questions post EDIT: I would recommend buying a new cooler as well.... some that will do - Thermalright Ultra120Extreme, Tuniq Tower, Thermalright Ultra120, Thermalright Ultima90, Enzotech Extreme-X. Those are all light years better than the Arctic Freezer on quads, would also recommend picking up a tube of AC MX2 thermal paste. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg! Last edited by ChaosMinionX; Dec 13, 2007 at 08:34 PM.

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Dec 14, 2007, 02:29 AM	#27
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	but were talking you..... a guy who spent 1200 on DDR2 a few weeks ago or something a guy whos got the CRAP load of cooling and THE best parts one can get their hands on and a BUTTLOAD of extra cash for another setup. moderate for you is like upper beyond 60C need better cooling or my CPU will burn a hole through my table kind of OCing.... i think all he needs is a moderate (my definition of moderate) stock volt OC to 2.8-3.0 or whatever he gets to so he doesnt permanently damage anything on accident. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 14, 2007, 03:42 PM	Thread Starter #28
smurfdude DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Yeah for sure, ill be more than happy with a moderate OC that doesnt run much hotter than stock. 3.0ish would be great, cause I think thats what the E6850 run at and thats what I was first going to buy until I decided to go quad core

Dec 15, 2007, 07:28 PM	#29
josh2thad DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	i would go for the 400x8 = 3.2 setting. shouldn't require that much voltage, i run it with decent temps on a B3... so a G0 should be good as gold. __________________ www.proxywad.com *DeskTop* • Q6600 8MB Cache (400x8) 3.2 [Schythe Ninja Plus REV.b] • 4Gb DDR2 800 @888 [CL 5-4-4-12]• MSI P52 Neo 2 • Slient Cooling • XFX 8800 GTS XXX Edition [600/1800] • Thermaltake Tough power • 2.250GB Segate [Storage] Western Digital 320GB 16MB Cache Master• Lappy•Gateway MT6458 • AMD Turion X2 1.6Ghz • 2x 1GB DDR 2 PC 5400 CL 4-4-4-12 • 15.4 X-tra Birght Widescreen [Glossy] 1280x800 ATI x1150 128 MB• 160Gb HDD • Wireless N 300mbps •

Dec 15, 2007, 07:56 PM	#30
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	3.2Ghz at a 1600Mhz FSB sounds good his RAM can take 800 at a good 3-4-4-8 i suppose hey smurfdude, what kind of thermal compound did you use? if you used the stuff on the heatsink then good, if you used Arctic silver 5, change it for Tuniq TX-2 compound for the best performance. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!