That Black Icky Thing..

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 06:05 AM

That black icky "Thermal Grease" I think on the bottom of P4 Heatsinks hinders performance. Well at least for me. After I removed it from my P4 1.7 Ghz and my P4 2.4 GHz, the core temps dropped a few degrees. I just thought I'd share.

scobywhru · May 9, 2003, 06:17 AM

What did you replace it with?

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 06:17 AM

Just the silver coloured "padding" left.

scobywhru · May 9, 2003, 06:20 AM

should put something there, Artic Silver 3 or another Thermal grease

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 06:21 AM

I should..

scobywhru · May 9, 2003, 06:21 AM

But thats if you cleaned it down to the Aluminum or copper that the heatsink is made from, OEM heatsinks usually have thermal pads that don't work as as good thermal grease

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 06:23 AM

I'm satisified with it as long as temps are lower.

Dom · May 9, 2003, 06:31 AM

You really need to put some thermal compound on it. You can and probably will damage your CPU if you don't.

scobywhru · May 9, 2003, 06:34 AM

Yeah I usually clean it off and put some AS2 on whenever they need me to fix something in there computer, just to keep it from causing other problems, and none of them have complained yet

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 02:19 PM

Just curious as to how it will be damaged. BTW, it's not BARE heatsink which the CPU is touching. There is actually some silver layer of padding (if you will).

digitalwanderer · May 9, 2003, 03:03 PM

Air gaps will cause certain areas on your CPU to not cool properly, which CAN damage your CPU over time.

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 04:04 PM

*Shakes a fist* I guess I'll pick up a tube of AS2 for $10 CDN when I get my new monitor.

digitalwanderer · May 9, 2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by No_Style
*Shakes a fist* I guess I'll pick up a tube of AS2 for $10 CDN when I get my new monitor.

Man, get some of that cheap white goop before you use AS2!!!

ANY heatsink goop that conducts electricity is just a BAD way to go, period. Get arctic alumina if you need to use brandname stuff, or Nanotherm Blue II or something. (I'm using the Nanotherm Blue II right now and like it a lot, it spreads well without being all goopy.

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No_Style · May 9, 2003, 04:26 PM

Where to find this white goop? Please not internet sites. I don't buy online, unfortunately. Did you know that Northwood core's max VCore is 1.75 volts? That explains the sudden death syndrome with Northwoods. It's actually in the specifications for Northwood processors. But for Willamette cores it's a whopping 2.1 V.

EDIT: I just read JavaFox's old post about Sudden Death Northwoods. The person "apparently" was running at 1.65 V, but I'm guessing the ACTUAL voltage was considerably higher. My guess would be it was touching 1.75 V or surpassing it.

digitalwanderer · May 9, 2003, 04:39 PM

I picked it up at me local Radio Shack for about $2.99us for a toothpaste sized tube. (Pretty much a lifetime supply.)

No_Style · May 9, 2003, 04:43 PM

Something like this?

May 9, 2003, 06:05 AM	#1
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	That Black Icky Thing.. That black icky "Thermal Grease" I think on the bottom of P4 Heatsinks hinders performance. Well at least for me. After I removed it from my P4 1.7 Ghz and my P4 2.4 GHz, the core temps dropped a few degrees. I just thought I'd share. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 06:17 AM	#2
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	What did you replace it with? __________________

May 9, 2003, 06:17 AM	Thread Starter #3
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Nothing. Just the silver coloured "padding" left. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 06:20 AM	#4
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	should put something there, Artic Silver 3 or another Thermal grease __________________

May 9, 2003, 06:21 AM	Thread Starter #5
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	I should.. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 06:23 AM	Thread Starter #7
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	I cleaned it all very well.. I'm satisified with it as long as temps are lower. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 06:31 AM	#8
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	You really need to put some thermal compound on it. You can and probably will damage your CPU if you don't.

May 9, 2003, 06:34 AM	#9
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	Yeah I usually clean it off and put some AS2 on whenever they need me to fix something in there computer, just to keep it from causing other problems, and none of them have complained yet __________________

May 9, 2003, 02:19 PM	Thread Starter #10
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	How will it be damaged? Just curious as to how it will be damaged. BTW, it's not BARE heatsink which the CPU is touching. There is actually some silver layer of padding (if you will). __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 03:03 PM	#11
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Air-gaps. Air gaps will cause certain areas on your CPU to not cool properly, which CAN damage your CPU over time. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 9, 2003, 04:04 PM	Thread Starter #12
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Damn those Air Gaps! Shakes a fist I guess I'll pick up a tube of AS2 for $10 CDN when I get my new monitor. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 9, 2003, 04:26 PM	Thread Starter #14
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Where to find this white goop? Please not internet sites. I don't buy online, unfortunately. Did you know that Northwood core's max VCore is 1.75 volts? That explains the sudden death syndrome with Northwoods. It's actually in the specifications for Northwood processors. But for Willamette cores it's a whopping 2.1 V. EDIT: I just read JavaFox's old post about Sudden Death Northwoods. The person "apparently" was running at 1.65 V, but I'm guessing the ACTUAL voltage was considerably higher. My guess would be it was touching 1.75 V or surpassing it. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here Last edited by No_Style; May 9, 2003 at 04:40 PM.

May 9, 2003, 04:39 PM	#15
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	White goop. I picked it up at me local Radio Shack for about $2.99us for a toothpaste sized tube. (Pretty much a lifetime supply.) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 9, 2003, 04:43 PM	Thread Starter #16
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Something like this? __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here