Overclocking questions,temperature mismatches?

eastcoast · Mar 12, 2008, 06:07 PM

Hi all! i'm new at overclocking but if you can explain something i can't understand from guides, i'll appreciate it
1) what is normally overclocked? i can see that there are several things: FSB, cpu clock multiplier, cpu core voltage, ram voltage. are they all useful?
2) if i overclock, must i buy other components? i say this, first because my computer is a bit old (2003-2004) and i think there's no point in buying other things and spend money for it and second because i don't want to gain tremendous speeds/voltages (i'm sure that i can't get them,too)
3) strangly i can't discover true cpu/motherboard temperature.

i have tried many programs, here are the results:
-Everest:
CPU 64 °C (147 °F)
AUX 38 °C (100 °F)

-Pc wizard 2008
Mainboard 39 °C
Power/Aux 64 °C

-Speedfan:
can't see temperatures, only hardisk one (31° C)

-Sisoft Sandra:
can't see temperatures, only hardisk one (31° C)

-and finally, BIOS monitor:
CPU 39° C--> it is not high, is it because it monitors the cpu when windows and applications aren't load? if i start windows, does the cpu temperature raise a lot or remain moreorless the same?
and this is strange thing: some programs can't detect temperatures, others don't agree, others...

here are some screeenshots about my pc (maybe can help you,from cpu-z),you'll see that it's a bit ancient...

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/809...8170347ai4.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4...8170351ei3.jpg

Bye

(uff, i can't make screenshots visible, only a red x is shown)

JohnDoe47 · Mar 12, 2008, 06:35 PM

My computer was built in December 2003 and the motherboard is still going on strong, its down to the components and after market cooling that makes for a better overclock. Your motherboard appears to be 2 years older mine (2001).

At your idle temperatures I forbid you to overclock your system, an aftermarket cooler would deem appropriate but looking at your system specifications it would be in your best interest to just buy faster components or consider moving up to pci-e.

eastcoast · Mar 12, 2008, 07:10 PM

ok, i understand. and if i overclock just a bit? not too much to increase the temperature to a degree that is unbearable. i want to know if i can get a better performance on every-day work, and with background programs. infact my purpose isn't directed to games/cad programs. so if i can, how much should i overclock? what components?
(i'll try some options,if need)

JohnDoe47 · Mar 12, 2008, 08:39 PM

64 degrees is your idle temperature. When you play a game it probably soares anywhere upto 90 degrees, that's why I wouldn't recommend overclocking unless you buy an after market cooler.

You should try disabling some of your background processes and changing your anti-virus if its just for everyday use.
The second I switch from AVG Free Edition to NOD32 Licensed the start-up time was fantastic. I dropped 2 processes.

Here...

Windows XP Services - By Gene Goldring

Have a look at this, this website will explain all the services running in the background and give you an idea as to which ones you can disable. Its all experimental so if you disable a service you don't want running such as the 'Indexing Service', restart your PC every time so you know what effect it has. It tells you the purpose of every service but in some rare cases they can disagree with your system. Hence why I say disable one by one and reboot.

There are lots of other things you can do such as disabling the visual effects of XP, de fragmenting, the use of registry mechanic etc.

eastcoast · Mar 13, 2008, 12:34 PM

i use all these programs and have disabled services i don't use. however i'm satisfied,thanks. bye! (i've edited cpu temperature from bios, i had forgot it, give a look please)

Mar 12, 2008, 06:07 PM	#1
eastcoast Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Overclocking questions,temperature mismatches? Hi all! i'm new at overclocking but if you can explain something i can't understand from guides, i'll appreciate it 1) what is normally overclocked? i can see that there are several things: FSB, cpu clock multiplier, cpu core voltage, ram voltage. are they all useful? 2) if i overclock, must i buy other components? i say this, first because my computer is a bit old (2003-2004) and i think there's no point in buying other things and spend money for it and second because i don't want to gain tremendous speeds/voltages (i'm sure that i can't get them,too) 3) strangly i can't discover true cpu/motherboard temperature. i have tried many programs, here are the results: -Everest: CPU 64 °C (147 °F) AUX 38 °C (100 °F) -Pc wizard 2008 Mainboard 39 °C Power/Aux 64 °C -Speedfan: can't see temperatures, only hardisk one (31° C) -Sisoft Sandra: can't see temperatures, only hardisk one (31° C) -and finally, BIOS monitor: CPU 39° C--> it is not high, is it because it monitors the cpu when windows and applications aren't load? if i start windows, does the cpu temperature raise a lot or remain moreorless the same? and this is strange thing: some programs can't detect temperatures, others don't agree, others... here are some screeenshots about my pc (maybe can help you,from cpu-z),you'll see that it's a bit ancient... http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/809...8170347ai4.jpg http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4...8170351ei3.jpg Bye (uff, i can't make screenshots visible, only a red x is shown) Last edited by eastcoast; Mar 13, 2008 at 01:03 PM.

Mar 13, 2008, 12:34 PM	Thread Starter #5
eastcoast Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	i use all these programs and have disabled services i don't use. however i'm satisfied,thanks. bye! (i've edited cpu temperature from bios, i had forgot it, give a look please) Last edited by eastcoast; Mar 13, 2008 at 01:04 PM.

Mar 12, 2008, 06:35 PM	#2
JohnDoe47 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 319 Rep Power: 0	My computer was built in December 2003 and the motherboard is still going on strong, its down to the components and after market cooling that makes for a better overclock. Your motherboard appears to be 2 years older mine (2001). At your idle temperatures I forbid you to overclock your system, an aftermarket cooler would deem appropriate but looking at your system specifications it would be in your best interest to just buy faster components or consider moving up to pci-e.

Mar 12, 2008, 07:10 PM	Thread Starter #3
eastcoast Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	ok, i understand. and if i overclock just a bit? not too much to increase the temperature to a degree that is unbearable. i want to know if i can get a better performance on every-day work, and with background programs. infact my purpose isn't directed to games/cad programs. so if i can, how much should i overclock? what components? (i'll try some options,if need)

Mar 12, 2008, 08:39 PM	#4
JohnDoe47 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 319 Rep Power: 0	64 degrees is your idle temperature. When you play a game it probably soares anywhere upto 90 degrees, that's why I wouldn't recommend overclocking unless you buy an after market cooler. You should try disabling some of your background processes and changing your anti-virus if its just for everyday use. The second I switch from AVG Free Edition to NOD32 Licensed the start-up time was fantastic. I dropped 2 processes. Here... Windows XP Services - By Gene Goldring Have a look at this, this website will explain all the services running in the background and give you an idea as to which ones you can disable. Its all experimental so if you disable a service you don't want running such as the 'Indexing Service', restart your PC every time so you know what effect it has. It tells you the purpose of every service but in some rare cases they can disagree with your system. Hence why I say disable one by one and reboot. There are lots of other things you can do such as disabling the visual effects of XP, de fragmenting, the use of registry mechanic etc.