Mousey

lol good question
The zalman is a really good bet, if you can get hold of one get an artic freezer pro because those are really good and cheap too.

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Bolletje

AC 7 Pro is indeed a good CPU-cooler for the money. It's only a little bit loud.

If you need some more cooling performance, go for a Coolermaster Z600 with 2 x 120 mm fan. Noise depends on chosen fans.

A Scythe Mugen is also a great cooler. The fan that comes with it is also really silent.

Xigmatek also has some good coolers for the money... SH-1283 or 1284 are good ones

I don't know the prices in the UK, but I think they are for the most part the same as in Holland...

LilRazor

u mean this ? Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro HSF | silentpcreview.com

@ Bolletje
I Dont Mind If Its Loud i Bet My 8800Gt Is even louder =D
i always on my music so sound its not a problem
LOL The Coolermaster Z600 Is A Monster

As For The Cooling Have ill have to see about the price here ....
Last Known Price For the zalman was RM359 I Think o.o But That Was April This Year. Ill Look Up To The Coolermaster Z600 Price =D

LilRazor

Ah Bad News My PSU Just Well Gave Up On Me F*** I Dont Even Know What Happen Could It Be Overload And Burn ......... Or Just A Bad PSU ? Now Im On My Moms Computer ... T.T Its Not Even 6 Months Old ...

EDIT : Fixed My PSU Is Crazy Sometimes It Die And Works Again

CyberpowerUK

For a cooler I'd recommend the Coolermaster V8 if you want the best possible air cooler on the market. It's not very loud either.

Mike

LilRazor

Ok Im Getting My Q6600 Tomorrow I Wonder Will My PSU Support It? ( Enermax 535W)
I Feel That My PC Seems Short Of Power xD

I Have
Asus P5kpl/1600
2 + 1 Gb Ram
Xfx 8800GT 512 Mb
150 GB Seagate HD
8 LED Fans
Q6600 < CommingSoon
Zalman 9700 Or Arcitc Cooling Freezer 7 Pro , Comming Soon

CyberpowerUK

That should be fine as that PSU carries high amperage on the +12V rails. It's about on the limit though don't think of SLi for instance.

Mike

LilRazor

Nah SLI i dont think so hehe
i have a ati crossfire motherboard so sli is out of the question
But Really My Psu Is At The Limit?

CyberpowerUK

Whoops didn't read the mobo correctly.

Well 8800GT draws about 130W under load, a Q6600 about 90W stock say about 140W under load at 3.4GHz. That's 270W for proc+graphics alone.

About 15W for each hard drive 50W for mainboard 10W Optic drive. And you have to consider the amperage draw rather than just overall wattage.

I'd say it's comfortable with the hardware you have but as I say it wouldn't handle a 2-card system or a 4870X2/GTX295/9800GX2 for instance.

Mike

LilRazor

Owh Icic Thanks Very Much =D

Bolletje

Coolermaster V8 isn't that good and is very expensive. A Z600 is often better for a lower price. It's never the best possible air cooler. (yes I know him, my friend got it and reviewed it for a website). I don't know exactly if it's loud or not...

My recommendations:
Low-budget: AC 7 Pro
Silence + performance: Scythe Mugen
Great performance: Z600 (+ 1 or 2 120 mm fans)
When you don't care about money: get a WC

Maybe you can even run that system on a 300/350 watter. When the 12V+ rails are good, you are fine. Your Enermax could easily feed that components, even when you put a extra 8800GT in it (but you don't have a SLI motherboard ).

comp_ali

So . Is there a way to overclock E4500 to 2.5 ghz with stock cooling only and without increasing the voltage .

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Bolletje

Is this a sentence or a question?

It differs whetever you have the L2 or M0 stepping.

LilRazor

Whats L2 And M0?? LOL =D

Bolletje

The stepping / Revision:

Click! (they were whining about 'You shall not steal' :'))
Left = L2
Right = M0

M0 is better (less heat and overall beter overclocking)

You can also which stepping your CPU is when you have the batch or sSpec number. You can find this on the box.

Or you can download CPU-z, run it and see what is says

LilRazor

i dont really get it but how do u tell if its M0 or L2?

Mousey

Google is your friend, CPU-z, download, run

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LilRazor

owh mine is m0 heh

CyberpowerUK

Considering it beats the TRUE which was the previous top air cooler I'd say it's pretty good, the Z600 is certainly not as good as the V8

Mike

Bolletje

Beats? Not as good? Well, how do you explain this?

The V8 isn't bad, but considering it's price I would avoid it...

Zardon

I have yet to find any air cooling system to beat this http://www.hardwareheaven.com/overcloc...g-project.html

obviously a large portion of it depends on the fans, but 50db? + no thanks. i like to keep everything under 30db. nearer 25db if possible.

Bolletje

Well, compared to the hardware that is used in that configuration, some decent fans aren't so expensive

But yet again, a WC-set is often the choice with such hardware and when you are planning to overclock.

You are still running that air-cooling system with you system?

CyberpowerUK

Oh?

Cooler Master V8 Review » Page 4 - Testing - Overclockers Club

Also born out with our own testing internally here. It's also the same price as the TRUE.

And Zardon - that's insane!

Mike

Zardon

Yes I am and funnily enough even though it looks like it would be a whirlwind of noise, im getting a rating of 23db with the 280 GTX's on auto fan control, you can barely hear it. Watercooling is always a better option, but I wanted to prove a point with that build.....

Unfortunately with 3 280 gtxs in SLI when gaming you need to crank the fans and then its audible but for other tasks its not far from silent.

To be fair, its an expensive air cooling configuration with the most expensive fans you can get, but it is possible. The Thermalright black coolers, I still rate as the best for air and ive tried them all.

Knight_Breed

An interesting cooling discussion and Zardon as a long time geek here that Skulltrail cooling setup is sweet

On the Coolermaster V8 impressive numbers Mike although I haven't tried one out myself .. still running my Hyper212 here and very happy with it.

On the Zalman stuff well I always found it a bit overpriced myself and prefer heatsinks with aluminum cooling fins .. but hey to each there own and they seem to perform well.

On the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 I have one sitting here in the bottom drawer of my desk if anyone wants it. All they have to do is replace the stupid fan you cannot electronically or physically change the direction on or change its position on the cooler. Not the cooler for me I am afraid

Anyway just some feedback and I am enjoying reading along here !

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LilRazor

i still have not get a aftermarket cpu cooler so im currenly using stock

i cant seem to find any good cpu coolers here but zalman ... and some random cheap useless coolers

does anyone knows how would zalman 9700 run with q6600 Oc to 3.0ghz?

Mousey

You can't really ask what limits you can push your system to on the net because there's so many countless variables. For starters there's voltages, ripples off the PSU, temperatures, cases, airflow, ambient temps ect. ect.
But i reckon it should do fine

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