Liquid cooling system issue

procupine14 · Jan 27, 2009, 09:38 PM

So I've had my liquid cooling system for quite awhile now and I'm thinking its time for an upgrade for some of the components. I'm looking for some suggestions since its been awhile for some solid, budget components.

Basically, for some reason, my system just isn't keeping my new phenom cool enough so its time to upgrade.

I'll get the specs of my current setup on here when I get home today

*CyberpowerUK* · Jan 28, 2009, 01:04 PM

That combo should be fine for your Phenom, have you ensured your blocks is *really* tightly screwed on the chip? More pressure the better, might be worth re-mounitng

I use EK water-blocks on the systems I build myself and XSPC Delta 3's here at work, they're both fantastic blocks and more efficient than the Koolance blocks afaik.

Mike

procupine14 · Jan 28, 2009, 02:19 PM

hmmm ok it might be worth remounting. I'm just not sure what's going on. I figured that this system was ample to do the job but it seems like the thing just builds up heat. Thanks I'll remount and check back.

Lowfat · Jan 28, 2009, 05:20 PM

Specifically what are you using for blocks, pump, rad?

procupine14 · Jan 29, 2009, 08:27 PM

Danger Den DD-CPX1 12V 3-Pin Powered Pump - (DD-CPX1) - FrozenCPU.com
this is the danger den pump

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20...vc5r&mv_pc=448
and this is the block

Thermaltake AquaBay M3 5.25" Reservoir (CL-W0031) - FrozenCPU.com
and this is the reservior

Newegg.com - KOOLANCE HX-362 Radiator (no nozzles) - Water Cooling
and the radiator

all of this is running 3/8" dia tubing

I'm using a mix of about 50/50 fluid XP and distilled water

also, another thing that came to my mind is that my motherboard senors could be having issues and not functioning properly. I may have to get a temp sensor and directiy hook it up to the underside of the cpu block

I'm using Speed fan and PC Probe to measure temps at the moment

Lowfat · Jan 30, 2009, 04:56 AM

Your radiator and CPU block are definitely the weakest parts. The radiator is aluminum and I will never ever suggest someone use a koolance radiator unless using an entire koolance loop.

Any idea how much you would like to spend on an upgrade?

procupine14 · Jan 30, 2009, 05:24 AM

yeah I'm thinking this radiator is pretty much shot. I was hoping to keep it under $100 if its possible I'm not trying to go nuts quite yet.

I was thinking about a dual 120 rad thats fairly thin. This single 120 is so thick its ridiculous.

I say dual because I want to eventually integrate the NB and GFX but that will come when I have a little more money

Lowfat · Jan 30, 2009, 08:51 AM

Swiftech MCR220 and a DTEK Fuzion for around $100 I would think. You could always upgrade the radiator now and the CPU block down the road.

*CyberpowerUK* · Jan 30, 2009, 11:24 AM

A move to a dual-rad would certainly be one of the best things you can do, a double rad would give enough leeway to cool chip and a single graphics, probably with northbridge too I would think.

Mike

procupine14 · Jan 30, 2009, 02:17 PM

Awesome thanks! I really needed that advice!

*CyberpowerUK* · Feb 18, 2009, 06:15 PM

Hi,

Did you move to the new rad then [

]

Mike

procupine14 · Feb 18, 2009, 06:20 PM

yes I did I picked up a dual 120MM swiftech rad and am about to pick up a new water block

*CyberpowerUK* · Feb 19, 2009, 11:53 AM

Great can't wait to see the results

procupine14 · Feb 19, 2009, 07:40 PM

well right now the system is still running a little hot but its getting better. I'm thinking as soon as I change out the block the temperatures will be ideal right now I'm looking at high 30's low 40's which isn't really a "happy place" for where I want this processor to jump off from when Overclocking so I will wait until I get my new block to OC

*CyberpowerUK* · Feb 23, 2009, 10:12 AM

Depends on what your ambient temps are as well mind, if your load temps are only 5*C or so higher then you've got the room

Mike

procupine14 · Feb 23, 2009, 04:54 PM

yeah that's pretty much what they are so I might just start my OCing process some time later this week

Jan 27, 2009, 09:38 PM	#1
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Liquid cooling system issue So I've had my liquid cooling system for quite awhile now and I'm thinking its time for an upgrade for some of the components. I'm looking for some suggestions since its been awhile for some solid, budget components. Basically, for some reason, my system just isn't keeping my new phenom cool enough so its time to upgrade. I'll get the specs of my current setup on here when I get home today __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jan 28, 2009, 01:04 PM	#2
CyberpowerUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Toon Posts: 81 Rep Power: 24 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue That combo should be fine for your Phenom, have you ensured your blocks is really tightly screwed on the chip? More pressure the better, might be worth re-mounitng I use EK water-blocks on the systems I build myself and XSPC Delta 3's here at work, they're both fantastic blocks and more efficient than the Koolance blocks afaik. Mike

Jan 28, 2009, 02:19 PM	Thread Starter #3
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue hmmm ok it might be worth remounting. I'm just not sure what's going on. I figured that this system was ample to do the job but it seems like the thing just builds up heat. Thanks I'll remount and check back. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jan 28, 2009, 05:20 PM	#4
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Specifically what are you using for blocks, pump, rad? __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Jan 29, 2009, 08:27 PM	Thread Starter #5
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Danger Den DD-CPX1 12V 3-Pin Powered Pump - (DD-CPX1) - FrozenCPU.com this is the danger den pump http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20...vc5r&mv_pc=448 and this is the block Thermaltake AquaBay M3 5.25" Reservoir (CL-W0031) - FrozenCPU.com and this is the reservior Newegg.com - KOOLANCE HX-362 Radiator (no nozzles) - Water Cooling and the radiator all of this is running 3/8" dia tubing I'm using a mix of about 50/50 fluid XP and distilled water also, another thing that came to my mind is that my motherboard senors could be having issues and not functioning properly. I may have to get a temp sensor and directiy hook it up to the underside of the cpu block I'm using Speed fan and PC Probe to measure temps at the moment __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jan 30, 2009, 04:56 AM	#6
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Your radiator and CPU block are definitely the weakest parts. The radiator is aluminum and I will never ever suggest someone use a koolance radiator unless using an entire koolance loop. Any idea how much you would like to spend on an upgrade? __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Jan 30, 2009, 05:24 AM	Thread Starter #7
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue yeah I'm thinking this radiator is pretty much shot. I was hoping to keep it under $100 if its possible I'm not trying to go nuts quite yet. I was thinking about a dual 120 rad thats fairly thin. This single 120 is so thick its ridiculous. I say dual because I want to eventually integrate the NB and GFX but that will come when I have a little more money __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jan 30, 2009, 08:51 AM	#8
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Swiftech MCR220 and a DTEK Fuzion for around $100 I would think. You could always upgrade the radiator now and the CPU block down the road. __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Jan 30, 2009, 11:24 AM	#9
CyberpowerUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Toon Posts: 81 Rep Power: 24 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue A move to a dual-rad would certainly be one of the best things you can do, a double rad would give enough leeway to cool chip and a single graphics, probably with northbridge too I would think. Mike

Jan 30, 2009, 02:17 PM	Thread Starter #10
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Awesome thanks! I really needed that advice! __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Feb 18, 2009, 06:15 PM	#11
CyberpowerUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Toon Posts: 81 Rep Power: 24 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Hi, Did you move to the new rad then [] Mike

Feb 18, 2009, 06:20 PM	Thread Starter #12
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue yes I did I picked up a dual 120MM swiftech rad and am about to pick up a new water block __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Feb 19, 2009, 11:53 AM	#13
CyberpowerUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Toon Posts: 81 Rep Power: 24 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Great can't wait to see the results

Feb 19, 2009, 07:40 PM	Thread Starter #14
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue well right now the system is still running a little hot but its getting better. I'm thinking as soon as I change out the block the temperatures will be ideal right now I'm looking at high 30's low 40's which isn't really a "happy place" for where I want this processor to jump off from when Overclocking so I will wait until I get my new block to OC __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Feb 23, 2009, 10:12 AM	#15
CyberpowerUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Toon Posts: 81 Rep Power: 24 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue Depends on what your ambient temps are as well mind, if your load temps are only 5*C or so higher then you've got the room Mike

Feb 23, 2009, 04:54 PM	Thread Starter #16
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Liquid cooling system issue yeah that's pretty much what they are so I might just start my OCing process some time later this week __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU