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Jun 12, 2003, 04:10 PM
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OH BOY! Took the plunge!
Well, at one point and time ... my rig was considered by many to be fast, and the overclock that I maintained to be ... well ... CRAZY.
Ah but things have changed ... It is now over 1 year old, and the Palomino is dead. I dropped an order for the parts to build a new PC ... Specs are as follows: MSI K7N2 Delta-L retail motherboard: - Officially supports 200MHz FSB - Officially supports 400MHz DDR (PC3200 and above) AMD Barton 2500+ retail processor: - 333MHz FSB - 512K L2 cache OCZ PC3500 EL (2x256) - 433MHz memory module I will be adding my current HDD selections, CPU cooler, and my R9500 NP (modded) Gearing up for the next upcoming games... Half Life 2  & DOOM 3
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Jun 12, 2003, 05:20 PM
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man I'm glad you ordered that barton 2500+! I wanna get one but not until someone else tells me how the OC
 Looking really sweet man 
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Jun 12, 2003, 05:38 PM
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the barton 2500 overclocks well and should hit 2200mhz pretty stable, depending on the cooling. sounds like a nice setup you will have wyre.... keep us posted on the progress.
 I also see you ordered OCZ DDR3500 ........ the best damn ram out there !!! KICKING ! |
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Jun 12, 2003, 05:53 PM
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guys, i wanna ask 'bout the difference between an AMD Athlon XP and AMD barton and a t-bred version, is that what you call that?? thankz in advance...
sorry wolf, for the hijacking and stuff...... by the way, congrates man, must be a tough decision to make...~LOL 
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Jun 12, 2003, 06:07 PM
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The barton has the 333Mhz FSB, which is very nice. XP dosen't, and bascially, the barton is the "newer version" of the XP's...I forgot what the T-Breds are for. Congrats Wyre!
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Jun 12, 2003, 06:37 PM
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Been there before when I lost my one MP 1900+ three months ago
Congrats wolf.
I upgraded to 2800+ MP's later pete
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Jun 12, 2003, 06:40 PM
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The barton has 512k of level 2 cache, the thoroughbred has 256k of level 2 cache. double the level 2 cache certainly helps. as you will see from benchmarks. if you are wanting a decent priced processor I would no longer go for a 2600+ or 2700+, I would go for the 2500 barton. |
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Jun 13, 2003, 06:54 AM
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Very good choice Wyre!
I have the 2500+ myself and I was able to clock it up to 2300MHz stable with air cooling (Thermaltake Volcano 9). Just remember to keep FSB and memory synchronized for optimal performance. With that OCZ 3500 it should be no problem at all.
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Jun 13, 2003, 07:00 AM
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Re: OH BOY! Took the plung!
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Jun 13, 2003, 07:12 AM
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Dead as in ... it is no longer produced, and the once top of the heap Athlon XP ... is no more. Palomino is dead... Long live the Barton!
I read a review on a German site (babelfish is my friend) and those guys had no problems hitting a 230+MHz FSB! WOW!  Tom's hardware showed off the motherboard that I chose as well, and they had nothing bad to say about the motherboard at all ... although they didnt explore the overclocking potential ... the K7N2 Delta-L officially supports the 200MHz FSB, and 400MHz memory... So, I know that I will be seeing those speeds at least 
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Jun 13, 2003, 07:50 AM
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Because there are only two sites that have done a review of the new MSI K7N2 with the Ultra400 nForce2 north bridge.... That German site, and Tom's
so, I read what I could on it .... reguardless of who wrote the review.... The new toys should be here next Saturday, or the following Monday.
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Jun 13, 2003, 08:41 AM
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I was able to overclock my 2500+ to about 2200mhz with stock cooling (12.5x and 180mhz mem)... it couldn't run anything without going above 60C but it didn't crash out. I even tried 10x with 200mhz mem and it worked and ran stuff just fine (didn't overheat), but I don't want to keep my ram so overclocked since the sticks were made for 166 mhz. I have it hovering at 12x and 175mhz for right now since it's summer here in Texas and these setting seem to give me a good compromise between boost and heat.... Oh, did I mention I didn't have to mess with the vcore?
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Jun 13, 2003, 10:07 AM
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I have noticed that there are some severe incompatabilities with some memory modules, and the nF2 ... Luckily ... the combo that I chose is SUPPOSED to work perfectly well together... I am WANTING a 200MHz FSB ... anything above that is just GRAVY!
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Jun 13, 2003, 10:42 AM
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Heard some pretty good things about XP2500 but will it work (OC) by multiplier on my Asus A7V8X gold KT400 mobo?
Because there is no fixed AGP and PCI speed I am running a bit scared for my 9700p oceing by FSB. I run my XP2600 at 13.5, 2255 mhz without any problems never getting above 60c with Coolermaster copper Hc62 heatsink with Delta fan. |
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Jun 13, 2003, 10:54 AM
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Jun 13, 2003, 01:26 PM
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I just got a Barton 2500+
AXQEA 0322 TPDW Its clocks at 2535 Mhz stable at 2.15v.  It runs 251 FSB as well.  A little disappointed so far as my Tbred can do about 50 Mhz more. But I'll be doing some "cooling renovations" and am hoping for some nice benches after that. |
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Jun 13, 2003, 01:46 PM
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dont be feeling let down cause it wont give you another 50mhz man, the extra 256 cache will give you so much more on the memory benchies....... wait until you see
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Jun 14, 2003, 09:05 PM
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yeah the Barton 2500+ is F***ING SWEET, not only can i hit OVER 2.5g with it i did so at i believe 1.8 volts with little heating trouble (i am water cooled though). To make the chip all the more sweet you can now unlock the multiplier with a PENCIL again (ohhh yeah 2 seconds to unlock compared to a painful hour with the 2000+ i had)
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Jun 14, 2003, 10:59 PM
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Nice choices, Wyre.
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Jun 15, 2003, 05:30 AM
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Jun 15, 2003, 05:41 AM
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Hmm, I believe the multiplier for Bartons is automatically unlocked on nForce2 boards . . . no pencil or other mod is necessary
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Jun 15, 2003, 05:50 AM
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That is only for SOME nForce2 motherboards... not too sure with the MSI that I chose.... I may have to unlock it... I am looking up how to do that right now
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Jun 15, 2003, 08:25 AM
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Here is a quick listing of all the Athlons... Other than the Thunderbird processor, All Athlons are known as Athlon XP processors, This was all started with the Palomino. The Barton core is nothing more than the Thoroughbred "B" core, with double the L2 cache... AMD will possibly be moving to the 200MHz FSB very soon ... using the Barton core. Code:
Core Name: Die Size: Cache Size: FSB Available: Thunderbird - .18 micron Cache: L2 256 Kb FSB 100, 133 Mhz Palomino - .18 micron Cache: L2 256 Kb FSB 133 Mhz Thoroughbred - .13 micron Cache: L2 256 Kb FSB 133, 166 Mhz Barton - .13 micron Cache: L2 512 Kb FSB 166 Mhz (200 Mhz?) Thunderbird - 6 Layer core Palomino - 7 Layer core Thoroughbred A - 8 Layer core Thoroughbred B - 9 Layer core Barton - 9 Layer core |
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Jun 15, 2003, 10:23 AM
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DOH! sorry, I have been working so many hours here lately ... I lost track of the upcoming technology... :P At least I was not off! LMAO
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Jun 15, 2003, 06:51 PM
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i wouldnt buy the 400 fsb barton my self as i can set it to 400 my self
and they lowered the speed as well(i dont see intel doing that  )
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Jun 18, 2003, 10:31 AM
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The AMD 3000+ is a 333MHz FSB part.
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