The Old Junk for recording rig thread !!

Cow_160483 · Jun 2, 2009, 01:52 PM

Wow this thread is sooo cool seeing how old systems where back in the day, it has inspired me to dig around for some old parts and put them together

Mac Daddy · Jun 3, 2009, 01:31 AM

Go for it .... it's fun

Tyrsonswood · Jun 20, 2009, 11:07 PM

Okay............ This thing is seriously LOUD.........

Mitsubishi M-A4200 Stereo Power Amp, $10.00 at Goodwill.

And yes, before anybody complains, it is connected to a computer, I've got a new amp for the basement recording room............... Too damn loud for upstairs.

Beyond loud the clarity is just sweet. Audigy Platinum output through my Alesis Mixer straight into 100watts per channel.

It's a straight up power amp, doesn't even have a volume control. For speakers I've been running a reloaded and modified pair of Optimus 1000..... 15"woofers, 6" Mids, and Peavey horns (Motorola)

Cosmeticly.... I really don't care, it's scratched up quite a bit. Functionally 100% 100 clean watts per side

I'm diggin it!

Mac Daddy · Jun 21, 2009, 01:47 AM

Nice

I found an old pic of the volt mod on the Cele rig I decided to do this on the mobo as opposed to the CPU itself. Sorry for the blurry pic but this gave me 1.65V. And a southbridge cooler

procupine14 · Jun 22, 2009, 08:38 PM

Now that's a chunk of aluminum

GigaWatt · Jul 16, 2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Beyond loud the clarity is just sweet. Audigy Platinum output through my Alesis Mixer straight into 100watts per channel.

It's a straight up power amp, doesn't even have a volume control. For speakers I've been running a reloaded and modified pair of Optimus 1000..... 15"woofers, 6" Mids, and Peavey horns (Motorola)

Cosmeticly.... I really don't care, it's scratched up quite a bit. Functionally 100% 100 clean watts per side

I'm diggin it!

i think those kind of amps are called "slave amplifiers", cuz they don't have any controls on them (they need a preamp or a mixer to control them)... but hey, if you dig the sound, then heck, go with it...

judging from the pic, it looks like it's loud, how much did you pay for that thing...? LOL

Tyrsonswood · Jul 16, 2009, 01:35 AM

$9

Mac Daddy · Jul 16, 2009, 01:38 AM

Wow what a deal Ty !!

Tyrsonswood · Jul 16, 2009, 01:43 AM

Well............. I lied. It was $9.99..........

Shoot me.

Mac Daddy · Jul 16, 2009, 12:32 PM

Lol

GigaWatt · Jul 17, 2009, 04:11 AM

hahahha

... an amp like that fro 10 bucks... where is that audio garden of eden...

Tyrsonswood · Jul 17, 2009, 04:21 AM

Goodwill............. it's a donation store, mostly cloths and some furniture etc..... Sometimes a prize is found.

procupine14 · Jul 17, 2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Goodwill............. it's a donation store, mostly cloths and some furniture etc..... Sometimes a prize is found.

That place is awesome! I actually got a couple 17" viewable CRTs from a Goodwill for $5 a piece

some time ago when CRTs were still actually worth more than that

GigaWatt · Jul 17, 2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by procupine14

That place is awesome! I actually got a couple 17" viewable CRTs from a Goodwill for $5 a piece

some time ago when CRTs were still actually worth more than that

well, if you ask me, they still worth more than that... i use a 17" CRT (still fixing the other one LOL

) and i wouldn't change it for the world...

Tyrsonswood · Jul 17, 2009, 10:26 PM

I'm working at a flatscreen 17" CRT right now.... Goodwill find for $4.99..... Brilliant picture and I doubt it was used at all before I got it, sure looked new anyways. I love CRT except when recording guitar.... they make one hell of a racket through the pickups, so I use both types.

GigaWatt · Jul 20, 2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

I'm working at a flatscreen 17" CRT right now.... Goodwill find for $4.99..... Brilliant picture and I doubt it was used at all before I got it, sure looked new anyways. I love CRT except when recording guitar.... they make one hell of a racket through the pickups, so I use both types.

i know i had the same problem recording the guitars... :S... i just distanced the guitar processor and the guitar itself from the CRT as far as i can...

Tyrsonswood · Jul 20, 2009, 11:33 AM

There's always one spot in the room, IF you face a certain direction (this direction varies) where it's perfectly silent......... but thats nowhere near where you need to be.

The CRT noise shouldn't effect the processor unless it's not in a metal casing. Mine tend to be in the rack except for my RP20 which is a floor unit. The noise is coming through the pickups for the most part.

procupine14 · Jul 22, 2009, 05:34 PM

See I can't do the CRT's. I probably used ten different ones for my rig through the years and they end up giving me splitting headaches before im done with a days worth of gaming. So I just stick with all LCDs. They even got me a set of 2 19" Samsungs for work (oh how nice they are in the government

) since I couldn't handle the set of 17" Dell CRTs that I was working with

Tyrsonswood · Jul 22, 2009, 05:47 PM

Some people do get headaches from CRT's, I don't but I'm also not looking at moving graphics, ie games, or staring at "spreadsheets" all day. I've a habit of looking away from the screen quite a bit and re focusing my eyes on something else in the room.... that helps a lot.

As I've said, I have a mix here of LCD and CRT.... my bottom line is working and cheap (or free) because most of my systems have dual monitors...... More CRT's fit those two criteria. Typically if an LCD is cheap or free, it ain't working.

Mac Daddy · Jul 23, 2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Typically if an LCD is cheap or free, it ain't working.

Exactly

GigaWatt · Jul 27, 2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Some people do get headaches from CRT's, I don't but I'm also not looking at moving graphics, ie games, or staring at "spreadsheets" all day. I've a habit of looking away from the screen quite a bit and re focusing my eyes on something else in the room.... that helps a lot.

been doing the same thing for years now, not a single headache (knock on wood)...

i just make pauses, like playing the keyboards or making something to eat... whatever, as long as i'm not in front of the CRT...

procupine14 · Jul 28, 2009, 05:39 PM

Yeah, that tends to help me. But sometimes I just get focussed into something and then end up with problems. Its a lot better if I have CRTs with a higher refresh rate (somewhere around 75Hz) since on most 60Hz (depending on the resolution) I can see the flicker and that, I think, is what causes my problem.

GigaWatt · Jul 28, 2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by procupine14

Yeah, that tends to help me. But sometimes I just get focussed into something and then end up with problems. Its a lot better if I have CRTs with a higher refresh rate (somewhere around 75Hz) since on most 60Hz (depending on the resolution) I can see the flicker and that, I think, is what causes my problem.

wow... you can see the flickering at 60Hz refresh rate

... you must have really sensitive eyes...

the newer CRT monitors (made above 2004, 2005) have a >=75Hz at 1024X768 resolution...

Tyrsonswood · Jul 28, 2009, 08:14 PM

I can see 60hz flicker too.

procupine14 · Jul 29, 2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GigaWatt

wow... you can see the flickering at 60Hz refresh rate

... you must have really sensitive eyes...

the newer CRT monitors (made above 2004, 2005) have a >=75Hz at 1024X768 resolution...

Yeah especially at the higher resolutions its freakin brutal

. Yeah that's the kind I use when I have to....or if I can.....I adjust the refresh rate to 75Hz so it looks right to me.

GigaWatt · Jul 29, 2009, 09:04 PM

actually, i forgot to mention... uuuuum... i wear glasses with dual radiation protection... LOL

... i guess that's why i don't get the headaches... hahahahah

Mac Daddy · Jul 30, 2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GigaWatt

actually, i forgot to mention... uuuuum... i wear glasses with dual radiation protection... LOL

... i guess that's why i don't get the headaches... hahahahah

That's funny

swimtech · Aug 2, 2009, 09:09 PM

Honestly, I don't think it's the refresh so that gives most folks headaches - I think it's a slight out of focus condition - really hard to get perfect and always has been - and it drifts depending on so many things... Anyhow...

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Oct 17, 2009, 12:03 PM

I have a short story about old" recording "junk". My current system which is powered by now "old junk" Core 2 Duo E 7300. I installed a Creative X-Fi soundcard a short while ago and something happened that has never happened in the life of me ever having or building computers. As I was looking at the fancy heatsink on the X-Fi chip I decided to touch it with my free hand just to get a sense of the X-Fidelity on my hands, anyway I noticed a small spark discharge from my main finger onto the heatsink itself. I completely shit myself because after all the constant warnings that I've had for the last 15 years about wearing gloves and touching the inside of the case it had just happened to me. I decided to install the card anyway to see if it worked and with a little hope and prayer. The drivers installed and it sounded great, UNTIL, I had to do a reinstallation of Windows. After running setup I tried installing the soundcard drivers and upon detection of the soundcard I received a no soundcard present error. I thought I can't take it back because it's completely my fault it didn't work so I chucked it into the bottom of my bin and thought about how nice it sounded over and over again until my binned got emptied about a week later. Anyway I never got any recording done on that soundcard at all so I am unsure of the relevance to this thread, but I have done recording on this system before. I've used it to create a loop of the heavy guitar warmup part from Metallica's Enter Sandman which I still really love. It repeats itself for about 8 mins and is sure to send anyone jumping from my car at high speed if listened to for the entire 8 minutes, but I love it. I also used to record a lot of guitar work on my computer, but none of it has stuck around over the years. I kind of recycled it to inspire me to keep writing more. ANd never has a day gone past where my musical creativity has ever made me bored. PERIOD.

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Jul 22, 2009, 05:34 PM	#78
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: The Old Junk for recording rig thread !! See I can't do the CRT's. I probably used ten different ones for my rig through the years and they end up giving me splitting headaches before im done with a days worth of gaming. So I just stick with all LCDs. They even got me a set of 2 19" Samsungs for work (oh how nice they are in the government ) since I couldn't handle the set of 17" Dell CRTs that I was working with __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jul 28, 2009, 05:39 PM	#82
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: The Old Junk for recording rig thread !! Yeah, that tends to help me. But sometimes I just get focussed into something and then end up with problems. Its a lot better if I have CRTs with a higher refresh rate (somewhere around 75Hz) since on most 60Hz (depending on the resolution) I can see the flicker and that, I think, is what causes my problem. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jul 29, 2009, 09:04 PM	#86
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,116 Rep Power: 81 System Specs	Re: The Old Junk for recording rig thread !! actually, i forgot to mention... uuuuum... i wear glasses with dual radiation protection... LOL ... i guess that's why i don't get the headaches... hahahahah __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Aug 2, 2009, 09:09 PM	#88
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: The Old Junk for recording rig thread !! Honestly, I don't think it's the refresh so that gives most folks headaches - I think it's a slight out of focus condition - really hard to get perfect and always has been - and it drifts depending on so many things... Anyhow... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Oct 17, 2009, 12:03 PM	#89
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: The Old Junk for recording rig thread !! I have a short story about old" recording "junk". My current system which is powered by now "old junk" Core 2 Duo E 7300. I installed a Creative X-Fi soundcard a short while ago and something happened that has never happened in the life of me ever having or building computers. As I was looking at the fancy heatsink on the X-Fi chip I decided to touch it with my free hand just to get a sense of the X-Fidelity on my hands, anyway I noticed a small spark discharge from my main finger onto the heatsink itself. I completely shit myself because after all the constant warnings that I've had for the last 15 years about wearing gloves and touching the inside of the case it had just happened to me. I decided to install the card anyway to see if it worked and with a little hope and prayer. The drivers installed and it sounded great, UNTIL, I had to do a reinstallation of Windows. After running setup I tried installing the soundcard drivers and upon detection of the soundcard I received a no soundcard present error. I thought I can't take it back because it's completely my fault it didn't work so I chucked it into the bottom of my bin and thought about how nice it sounded over and over again until my binned got emptied about a week later. Anyway I never got any recording done on that soundcard at all so I am unsure of the relevance to this thread, but I have done recording on this system before. I've used it to create a loop of the heavy guitar warmup part from Metallica's Enter Sandman which I still really love. It repeats itself for about 8 mins and is sure to send anyone jumping from my car at high speed if listened to for the entire 8 minutes, but I love it. I also used to record a lot of guitar work on my computer, but none of it has stuck around over the years. I kind of recycled it to inspire me to keep writing more. ANd never has a day gone past where my musical creativity has ever made me bored. PERIOD.