I Sprung a LEAK!!!!

procupine14 · Aug 13, 2009, 12:13 AM

Listen kids.....when you build a liquid cooling system you gotta pay attention.

in any case I was being careful and I blew a seal out of my water block.....BTW thanks a lot OCZ block is less than a month old and blows out the main seal.....phew* guess its back to swift tech.....

In any case there is good news. due to the shape of my GFX card's it caught all of the liquid and harmed nothing else in the computer.

But here's some pictures of what's left of my 4850.

Mac Daddy · Aug 13, 2009, 02:11 AM

Damn that sucks dude at least nothing else was damaged

CDsDontBurn · Aug 13, 2009, 02:12 AM

bummer dude! idk if that's a warrantable failure as it's not a natural card failure; ie. artifacting/overheating. if anything, get OCZ to cover the cost of your gfx card and have them replace the block. the replacement block sell it on ebay!

Tyrsonswood · Aug 13, 2009, 03:01 AM

Ouch! lucky that's all that happened but that sucks man......

SeraphicSorcerer · Aug 13, 2009, 03:27 AM

Very Lucky, And why I'm so squeemish about being a Watercooling Fanboy.

At least it was the 4850, now upgrade to a 4870X2

lol

CDsDontBurn · Aug 13, 2009, 03:28 AM

oh, i forgot to ask. what kind of water did you have in the loop? it doesn't look like it was distilled water. if it were distilled water, that *shouldn't* have happened....

YnHDaRkMaN · Aug 13, 2009, 03:31 AM

Indeed it sucks... good thing that only the gfx card died...
Guess I'll be "paranoid"-careful when i place the Domino I've won (hasn't arrived yet btw) on my next rig...

SeraphicSorcerer · Aug 13, 2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

oh, i forgot to ask. what kind of water did you have in the loop? it doesn't look like it was distilled water. if it were distilled water, that *shouldn't* have happened....

Water Ionizes as it travels through the loop. Distilled Water is Simply De-ionized. Which just means "excited" and conductive, once it contacts different materials it regains Ionization.

**dj_stick** · Aug 13, 2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

Water Ionizes as it travels through the loop. Distilled Water is Simply De-ionized. Which just means "excited" and conductive, once it contacts different materials it regains Ionization.

*tries to remember secondary school chemistry*

de-ionised water is simply pure water, with no contaminants, but as soon as it comes into contact with any metal (and many non-metals) it'll start absorbing ions from the surroundings, so even de-ionised water is lethal to electronics, it just might take a fraction of a second longer to kill things than tap water

procupine14 · Aug 13, 2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

oh, i forgot to ask. what kind of water did you have in the loop? it doesn't look like it was distilled water. if it were distilled water, that *shouldn't* have happened....

technically is "non-conductive" stuff from PrimoChill. Basically distilled water with color and some chemicals I get it because i like the color and dying distilled water is a big no, no....bad experiences with that.

In any case any thing that you put into the loop will become conductive outside the loop with the addition of dust or anything.

In this case it was the dust on my gfx card

But all it well i picked up a new block and 4850 HIS ICE Q Turbo all for under 200 bucks and I will be back in business by tomorrow.

SeraphicSorcerer · Aug 13, 2009, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dj_stick

*tries to remember secondary school chemistry*

de-ionised water is simply pure water, with no contaminants, but as soon as it comes into contact with any metal (and many non-metals) it'll start absorbing ions from the surroundings, so even de-ionised water is lethal to electronics, it just might take a fraction of a second longer to kill things than tap water

Ionization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Charged Electronics Cause Ionization Contaminants Are a different category.

De-ionized water is actually not lethal to electronics, Once you add electricty to electronics though, you don't kill them. I worked on Electronics for Aviation we wash them with de-ionized washers. they then have to be "baked" in nitrogen. Bam.

Anyhow. That's getting off topic, let's have a moment of silence for the 4850.

Either Way Water hitting electronically charged components = bad.

So :\

Bolletje · Aug 13, 2009, 11:58 AM

Can you make a pic of the leak :d?

And éh, a HD4850 isn't so expensive anymore

That's the risk you take with LCS :P

procupine14 · Aug 13, 2009, 02:12 PM

Yeah its all fixed with a new block and 4850 i picked up last night (I keep a nest egg of money for if anything goes wrong since I OC on water anyway. All it well. No pics of the leak considering that I didn't find it until morning and by then most of the liquid had dried up inside the 4850 theres really nothing to show. But yes a moment of silence

Eh....first leak i've had in the five loops that i've done over the years (not counting the replumbing of the same loop five or six times) so I count myself lucky. This is another good reason why I don't blow all of my money on super cutting edge top of the line stuff.

Cow_160483 · Aug 13, 2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by procupine14

Yeah its all fixed with a new block and 4850 i picked up last night (I keep a nest egg of money for if anything goes wrong since I OC on water anyway. All it well. No pics of the leak considering that I didn't find it until morning and by then most of the liquid had dried up inside the 4850 theres really nothing to show. But yes a moment of silence

Eh....first leak i've had in the five loops that i've done over the years (not counting the replumbing of the same loop five or six times) so I count myself lucky. This is another good reason why I don't blow all of my money on super cutting edge top of the line stuff.

Sorry about your card dude and thats a good point about "cutting edge top of the line stuff" its not always worth it

cbeasley0 · Aug 13, 2009, 02:46 PM

Its karma. I told you those Nvidia cards had it coming. Now all is well since you have a nice amd product in its rightful place. To be truthful, I was gonna axe the card anyway, but I guess you just got there first. =)

procupine14 · Aug 13, 2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cbeasley0

Its karma. I told you those Nvidia cards had it coming. Now all is well since you have a nice amd product in its rightful place. To be truthful, I was gonna axe the card anyway, but I guess you just got there first. =)

Mr. Beasley sir.....I fried an ATi card

and i replaced it with another ATi card.

I'm not 100% sure why you thought I had a nVidia card anywhere near my computer

<<<<<AMD Fan Boy

cbeasley0 · Aug 13, 2009, 03:11 PM

Ok, so maybe I saw GFX and translated that to GTX in my brain, okay?

Maybe I like to skim hardcore.

procupine14 · Aug 13, 2009, 03:22 PM

LoL!! its ok I do that A LOT.....and I work for the government so you know.

Optix · Aug 14, 2009, 10:47 AM

This is why I just can't pull the trigger on a water cooling setup unless it is an all in one like the H50 or Domino. I don't trust myself to set it up properly.

SeraphicSorcerer · Aug 14, 2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Optix

This is why I just can't pull the trigger on a water cooling setup unless it is an all in one like the H50 or Domino. I don't trust myself to set it up properly.

It's not even about setting it up properly, Mechanical Items break down.

But I agree I'm very OMFGIDONTWANTTOKILLMYPARTSMMMK?

Bolletje · Aug 15, 2009, 12:18 AM

Luckily enough, money can replace it

You got specs of the WC-setup SS?

Or a pic how it's mounted right now?

Lowfat · Aug 15, 2009, 08:13 PM

You never took apart the block ever? Did you get a replacement block from an RMA from OCZ? Or just buy a new one?

I've never owned an OCZ waterblock, but that should never happen. I've owned likely 10-12 difference Swiftech ones and a few from other manufacturers. Only issue that wasn't my fault was with a Danger Den Chipset Z (which thankfully they quit selling 4-5 years ago).

procupine14 · Aug 16, 2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

You never took apart the block ever? Did you get a replacement block from an RMA from OCZ? Or just buy a new one?

I've never owned an OCZ waterblock, but that should never happen. I've owned likely 10-12 difference Swiftech ones and a few from other manufacturers. Only issue that wasn't my fault was with a Danger Den Chipset Z (which thankfully they quit selling 4-5 years ago).

Well, here's the deal with OCZ waterblocks.....you HAVE to take it apart in order to install the AMD retention bracket as it comes standard with the 775 bracket. Yes I know its a little weird but thats the instructions. So, I disassembled the block, put the new bracket in place and then put it all back together. To make sure I tightened it enough I let it spend 48 hours in the new loop outside the case running to make sure absolutely no leaks. Then I put the system as a whole into the case and ran it for another 8 or so hours to make sure nothing go loosened up in the process. Then I installed everything in the proper location and hooked it all up.

So, to answer your question, yes the block had to be completely disassembled once before the install but as for being reassembled I made sure it wasn't going to leak. Especially considering that I was a little uneasy about haveing to do all of that in the first place.

I just went out and bought a new one because i had a raid that night and a new GFX card and installed it all and let it go for now. I will be trying to contact OCZ on monday hopefully about this and see about getting something . If they do give me a new one I will return the one in my loop currently to the brick and mortar store (since they told me I could) and install the new one when it comes. Luckily I just happened to have some computer money set aside already when this all went down.

procupine14 · Aug 16, 2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolletje

Luckily enough, money can replace it

You got specs of the WC-setup SS?

Or a pic how it's mounted right now?

I will post a pic of how the whole thing is setup when I get back in town from my weekend out of state. as far as the components go they are in my system specs in my profile.

Aug 13, 2009, 12:13 AM	#1
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Listen kids.....when you build a liquid cooling system you gotta pay attention. in any case I was being careful and I blew a seal out of my water block.....BTW thanks a lot OCZ block is less than a month old and blows out the main seal.....phew* guess its back to swift tech..... In any case there is good news. due to the shape of my GFX card's it caught all of the liquid and harmed nothing else in the computer. But here's some pictures of what's left of my 4850. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Aug 13, 2009, 02:11 AM	#2
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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,790 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! bummer dude! idk if that's a warrantable failure as it's not a natural card failure; ie. artifacting/overheating. if anything, get OCZ to cover the cost of your gfx card and have them replace the block. the replacement block sell it on ebay! __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Very Lucky, And why I'm so squeemish about being a Watercooling Fanboy. At least it was the 4850, now upgrade to a 4870X2 lol __________________

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,790 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! oh, i forgot to ask. what kind of water did you have in the loop? it doesn't look like it was distilled water. if it were distilled water, that shouldn't have happened.... __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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YnHDaRkMaN Image of the invisible... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mexico Posts: 199 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Indeed it sucks... good thing that only the gfx card died... Guess I'll be "paranoid"-careful when i place the Domino I've won (hasn't arrived yet btw) on my next rig... __________________ Current rig specs: Phenom II x4 945 3.0GHz Asus M4A78T-E Mobo 4x2GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual-Channel XFX HD 5770 1GB Single Slot Antec Three Hundred Case Corsair GS600 Acer LCD 19'' Widescreen 1TB Seagate Barracuda

Aug 13, 2009, 11:58 AM	#12
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Can you make a pic of the leak :d? And éh, a HD4850 isn't so expensive anymore That's the risk you take with LCS :P

Aug 13, 2009, 02:12 PM	Thread Starter #13
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Yeah its all fixed with a new block and 4850 i picked up last night (I keep a nest egg of money for if anything goes wrong since I OC on water anyway. All it well. No pics of the leak considering that I didn't find it until morning and by then most of the liquid had dried up inside the 4850 theres really nothing to show. But yes a moment of silence Eh....first leak i've had in the five loops that i've done over the years (not counting the replumbing of the same loop five or six times) so I count myself lucky. This is another good reason why I don't blow all of my money on super cutting edge top of the line stuff. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

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cbeasley0 Temerarious Technophile Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 185 Rep Power: 26 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Ok, so maybe I saw GFX and translated that to GTX in my brain, okay? Maybe I like to skim hardcore. __________________ My Site \| Facebook \| Twitter \| LinkedIn \| Deviant \| Bobblehead

Aug 13, 2009, 03:22 PM	Thread Starter #18
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! LoL!! its ok I do that A LOT.....and I work for the government so you know. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Aug 15, 2009, 12:18 AM	#21
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! Luckily enough, money can replace it You got specs of the WC-setup SS? Or a pic how it's mounted right now?

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Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Re: I Sprung a LEAK!!!! You never took apart the block ever? Did you get a replacement block from an RMA from OCZ? Or just buy a new one? I've never owned an OCZ waterblock, but that should never happen. I've owned likely 10-12 difference Swiftech ones and a few from other manufacturers. Only issue that wasn't my fault was with a Danger Den Chipset Z (which thankfully they quit selling 4-5 years ago). __________________