I have now overclocked!

Maskclone2k · Jul 19, 2002, 10:25 PM

Well I think that I have reached my cap with overclocking. I got my Athlon XP 1600+ to an 1800+ and my video card speeds are: Core = 306 and Memory = 306. I guess I should be satisfied with these results, as my max CPU temp during 3DMark2001SE was 45 C and system temp only got up to 30 C. I also ran a the "Burn-In Wizard" in Sandra for CPU about 10 times and the highest temp was only 45 C too. My 3DMark2001SE score went up as you'd expect, made a difference of 1243 3DMarks! Check it out here http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3978585

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!

TIA

DallasStar · Jul 20, 2002, 02:20 AM

If you're just going to leave your video card like that, at least get ramsinks and a crystal orb. you don't want to fry your card like so many others.

shuki · Jul 20, 2002, 02:43 AM

I think to go to next level you'll have to unlock mr. xp1600

also, post up some voltages from MBM 5 for us

DallasStar · Jul 20, 2002, 02:47 AM

yeah.... cuz if you're running at 5ghz with an XP, but your +5v is sitting at .0001, you've got nothing

Yeti · Jul 20, 2002, 03:09 AM

Overclock the fan.

~~shai~~ · Jul 20, 2002, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maskclone2k
Well I think that I have reached my cap with overclocking. I got my Athlon XP 1600+ to an 1800+ and my video card speeds are: Core = 306 and Memory = 306. I guess I should be satisfied with these results, as my max CPU temp during 3DMark2001SE was 45 C and system temp only got up to 30 C. I also ran a the "Burn-In Wizard" in Sandra for CPU about 10 times and the highest temp was only 45 C too. My 3DMark2001SE score went up as you'd expect, made a difference of 1243 3DMarks! Check it out here http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3978585

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!

TIA

hmm get an ax7 and overclock it more
volcano sucks

Yeti · Jul 20, 2002, 04:15 AM

Huh... you mean if its not an Alpha it sucks.... right?

(grr non Alpha users all aruond me... must get away!!!)

shuki · Jul 20, 2002, 05:38 AM

not to highjack this dudes thread but..... I have both alpha pal 8045 and thermalright ax-7 and ax-7 outdoes mr. alpha by 1.5-2c.. both lapped...

~~shai~~ · Jul 20, 2002, 05:45 AM

ax7 is not an alpha

toddalaska · Jul 20, 2002, 06:09 AM

ditch the alpha's , GO WATER, turn up the voltage and get a good oc.

Zardon · Jul 20, 2002, 06:40 AM

or just save the money and get a faster processor. overclock it.

then when you more watercool that for a higher overclock

Yeti · Jul 20, 2002, 06:48 AM

Lol... i know an AX7 is not an Alpha... I was recommending the Alpha over the AX7 when i said that. As for perfomance? My alpha has done me right and i prefer it over every other heatsink. Its just that simple.
As for WaterCooling... just stick a peltier under the HSF and that will do you good. (as long as its a good peltier)

Do whatever, but more cooling on your CPU is definitely a good thing.

Maskclone2k · Jul 20, 2002, 08:50 AM

Here are my voltages according to MBM 5:

CPU -----> 1.74 V
AGP -----> 1.51 V
+3.3 -----> 3.28 V
+5.00 ----> 4.91 V
+12.00 --> 11.65 V
-5.00 ----> 0.00 V
-12.00 ---> 0.00 V

Above my Radeon I have a fan from my old K6-2 350MHz proccessor running, it runs at around 5200 RPM, don't know what the CFM is but it is helping because before I even OC'ed the card was pretty darn hot, now it's not close to being that hot anymore. I still need to play SOFII and Counter-Strike along with my other 3D games and then see how hot it really gets.

shuki · Jul 20, 2002, 08:57 AM

volts look good except for that 12V rail. obviously a bit weak.... Next step, unlock mr. xp1900

Zarathustra · Jul 20, 2002, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yeti
As for WaterCooling... just stick a peltier under the HSF and that will do you good. (as long as its a good peltier)

You will need AT LEAST a 200W peltier with an XP and the only way to cool that would be water/phase-change/dry ice/whatever. Air-cooling can drop temps just as well as regular water-cooling now, you just have to be able to withstand the noise

Yeti · Jul 20, 2002, 12:44 PM

Actually... i've found some 170-190 Watt peltiers with a 70deg DeltaT. So with your heatsink/Fan dissipating heat at around 55-60 C... your cpu should be running at around 15-25.

What do you think?

Maskclone2k · Jul 20, 2002, 03:31 PM

Well I lowered the FSB to 145 instead of 146 because at 146 the temperature went up a little faster (all the way up to 47 C), and I also dropped the Radeon to 300/300, SOFII kept locking up. Once I lowered both it didn't lock up. But while I was playing an error popped up on the top left and it said this:

LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam
LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam
LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam

Just like that. Don't know what could be the cause.

Any ideas?

TIA

Desert_Siege · Jul 20, 2002, 04:41 PM

I maxed out about where you did at default vCore. 1540 was as far as it would go at 1.75 volts. Upped the voltage .1 to 1.85 and it will run at 160 all day long. It idles @ 42 and load at 48C after 2 hours of Ghost Recon and that is with a not so great ThermalRight SK6 Copper with a LOUD ass delta on it. 47C is a pretty good temp and no where NEAR any danger level. Before the SK6 my idle temp was 52C with the stock HSF and load it would get close to 65C and it still runs great. I think AMD says 80C is yellow and 90C is bad juju. With good memory and some unlocking, you should be able to hit 10 X 160 pretty easy. As for your game, I had to reinstall it on top of itself to correct a similar error.

Good luck and good job!

Maskclone2k · Jul 20, 2002, 05:08 PM

So in order for me to get the multiplier to 10, and the voltage to 1.85, I would have to unlock it?

DallasStar · Jul 20, 2002, 06:11 PM

to get the multiplier to 10, you will need to unlock. However, you can raise the voltages whenever you want (and that helps a bunch in overclocking even more

).

shuki · Jul 20, 2002, 07:56 PM

I think dallas meant "to get the multiplier to 10, you will need to unlock. However, ....."

but yeah, in order to change the multiplier to anything other than default, you have to unlock that chip. Raise vcore voltage in Bios. probably set to "Auto" now. need to change to manual and raise it. But beware, more volts means more power and more power means more heat....

Maskclone2k · Jul 20, 2002, 08:16 PM

So should I try uping the VCore and see if it gets me any further?

Memory is at +0.2V up from +0.1V (default) and that helped me get to where I am at now.

Unlocking may have to wait awhile.

shuki · Jul 21, 2002, 02:02 AM

yep up the vcore. default is usually 1.75. suggest 1.80. just remember keep an eye on the temps

DallasStar · Jul 21, 2002, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shuki
I think dallas meant "to get the multiplier to 10, you will need to unlock. However, ....."
but yeah, in order to change the multiplier to anything other than default, you have to unlock that chip. Raise vcore voltage in Bios. probably set to "Auto" now. need to change to manual and raise it. But beware, more volts means more power and more power means more heat....

I can't believe I was paying so little attention while typing. My mistake. Fixed

forgive me... it was 3 AM and I was tired

Maskclone2k · Jul 21, 2002, 08:15 AM

Well I raised the VCore to 1.84V (next highest availble, as it is done with jumpers) and set the FSB to 150. Windows loaded and I left it at the desktop just to check out how the temps where doing. When downstairs for abit and came back and it was at the login screen.

Temperature upon restart in BIOS was 48 C, so I lowered the FSB to 148, and thats where I am at now, temperature is currently at 45 C. Haven't stressed it yet, but will do that next.

shuki · Jul 21, 2002, 08:21 AM

need.... better.... hsf.... and what are idle temps reported by MBM 5 after windows running for 5 min or so? and volts?

Maskclone2k · Jul 21, 2002, 08:59 AM

Well ran "Burn-In" for 40 times and highest tmeperature was 51 C.
Idle temperature for running Windows for 5 Min is about 43 to 45 C.

Voltages remain pretty consistent, averages are as follows:

CPU ---> 1.84V (Constant)
AGP ---> 1.51V (Constant)
+3.3 ---> 3.28V
+5.00 --> 4.85V
+12.00 -> 11.66V
-5.00 --> 0.00V
-12.00 -> 0.00V

shuki · Jul 21, 2002, 09:30 AM

everything looks good. run it on up until your 12v rail won't let you go no more!

PM me your email addy and I'll send you "toast" utility if you don't have it already. it's a cpu burn in tool. run it for 5 minutes and see if still stable and what cpu temp reaches

Desert_Siege · Jul 21, 2002, 07:49 PM

We are using the same Mobo (mine is the + version with RAID) and the same processor. The memory I am using is only PC2400 (OCZ) but it will run the "Fast" timings at 160 and will run the "Normal" up to 170, but some of my PCI cards start crapping out at 42Mhz PCI bus, can't figure out why

Next step will be to unlock it and try to get to 150, then go up 2Mhz at a time till you max the bus. I am running at 1600 at 1.85V vCore and +.2 DDR voltage and with decent memory and a decent HSF, you should be able hit that no problem.

Good luck

p.s. Rock stable boards aren't they?

Maskclone2k · Jul 21, 2002, 08:17 PM

Thanks for letting me know about your set up Desert_Siege.

What are your temps running at and your voltages?

Defeninatly(sp) rock stable boards. Maybe you'll know this, does the Mobo read the CPU temp from the internal diode or does it have it's own in the board in the center of the socket?

Jul 19, 2002, 10:25 PM	#1
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	I have now overclocked! Well I think that I have reached my cap with overclocking. I got my Athlon XP 1600+ to an 1800+ and my video card speeds are: Core = 306 and Memory = 306. I guess I should be satisfied with these results, as my max CPU temp during 3DMark2001SE was 45 C and system temp only got up to 30 C. I also ran a the "Burn-In Wizard" in Sandra for CPU about 10 times and the highest temp was only 45 C too. My 3DMark2001SE score went up as you'd expect, made a difference of 1243 3DMarks! Check it out here http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3978585 If anyone has any suggestions please let me know! TIA

Jul 20, 2002, 02:20 AM	#2
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	If you're just going to leave your video card like that, at least get ramsinks and a crystal orb. you don't want to fry your card like so many others. __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 20, 2002, 02:47 AM	#4
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	yeah.... cuz if you're running at 5ghz with an XP, but your +5v is sitting at .0001, you've got nothing __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 20, 2002, 03:09 AM	#5
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Overclock the fan. __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 20, 2002, 04:15 AM	#7
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Huh... you mean if its not an Alpha it sucks.... right? (grr non Alpha users all aruond me... must get away!!!) __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 20, 2002, 02:43 AM	#3
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	I think to go to next level you'll have to unlock mr. xp1600 also, post up some voltages from MBM 5 for us

Jul 20, 2002, 05:38 AM	#8
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	not to highjack this dudes thread but..... I have both alpha pal 8045 and thermalright ax-7 and ax-7 outdoes mr. alpha by 1.5-2c.. both lapped...

Jul 20, 2002, 05:45 AM	#9
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	ax7 is not an alpha

Jul 20, 2002, 06:09 AM	#10
toddalaska DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	ditch the alpha's , GO WATER, turn up the voltage and get a good oc. __________________ epox 8k5a3+ 2400+ @ 2340 203*11.5 512 orsair 3200 203 fsb geforce4 ti4200 13253 3d marks 2 ibm 120gxp raid 0 WINXP PRO BIG BLACK ANTEC CASE Water cooled 32 idol - 37 prime95 tc4 - custom res and shroud by webmedic thats all thas important!

Jul 20, 2002, 06:40 AM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	or just save the money and get a faster processor. overclock it. then when you more watercool that for a higher overclock

Jul 20, 2002, 06:48 AM	#12
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Lol... i know an AX7 is not an Alpha... I was recommending the Alpha over the AX7 when i said that. As for perfomance? My alpha has done me right and i prefer it over every other heatsink. Its just that simple. As for WaterCooling... just stick a peltier under the HSF and that will do you good. (as long as its a good peltier) Do whatever, but more cooling on your CPU is definitely a good thing. __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 20, 2002, 08:50 AM	Thread Starter #13
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Voltages Here are my voltages according to MBM 5: CPU -----> 1.74 V AGP -----> 1.51 V +3.3 -----> 3.28 V +5.00 ----> 4.91 V +12.00 --> 11.65 V -5.00 ----> 0.00 V -12.00 ---> 0.00 V Above my Radeon I have a fan from my old K6-2 350MHz proccessor running, it runs at around 5200 RPM, don't know what the CFM is but it is helping because before I even OC'ed the card was pretty darn hot, now it's not close to being that hot anymore. I still need to play SOFII and Counter-Strike along with my other 3D games and then see how hot it really gets.

Jul 20, 2002, 08:57 AM	#14
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	volts look good except for that 12V rail. obviously a bit weak.... Next step, unlock mr. xp1900

Jul 20, 2002, 12:44 PM	#16
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Actually... i've found some 170-190 Watt peltiers with a 70deg DeltaT. So with your heatsink/Fan dissipating heat at around 55-60 C... your cpu should be running at around 15-25. What do you think? __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 20, 2002, 03:31 PM	Thread Starter #17
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Well I lowered the FSB to 145 instead of 146 because at 146 the temperature went up a little faster (all the way up to 47 C), and I also dropped the Radeon to 300/300, SOFII kept locking up. Once I lowered both it didn't lock up. But while I was playing an error popped up on the top left and it said this: LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam LICH ERROR: Improper NPC State or Fireteam Just like that. Don't know what could be the cause. Any ideas? TIA

Jul 20, 2002, 04:41 PM	#18
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Got my 1600+ @ 1600 (10x160)....needed 1.85 volts. I maxed out about where you did at default vCore. 1540 was as far as it would go at 1.75 volts. Upped the voltage .1 to 1.85 and it will run at 160 all day long. It idles @ 42 and load at 48C after 2 hours of Ghost Recon and that is with a not so great ThermalRight SK6 Copper with a LOUD ass delta on it. 47C is a pretty good temp and no where NEAR any danger level. Before the SK6 my idle temp was 52C with the stock HSF and load it would get close to 65C and it still runs great. I think AMD says 80C is yellow and 90C is bad juju. With good memory and some unlocking, you should be able to hit 10 X 160 pretty easy. As for your game, I had to reinstall it on top of itself to correct a similar error. Good luck and good job!

Jul 20, 2002, 05:08 PM	Thread Starter #19
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	So in order for me to get the multiplier to 10, and the voltage to 1.85, I would have to unlock it?

Jul 20, 2002, 06:11 PM	#20
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	to get the multiplier to 10, you will need to unlock. However, you can raise the voltages whenever you want (and that helps a bunch in overclocking even more ). __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 20, 2002, 07:56 PM	#21
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	I think dallas meant "to get the multiplier to 10, you will need to unlock. However, ....." but yeah, in order to change the multiplier to anything other than default, you have to unlock that chip. Raise vcore voltage in Bios. probably set to "Auto" now. need to change to manual and raise it. But beware, more volts means more power and more power means more heat....

Jul 20, 2002, 08:16 PM	Thread Starter #22
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	So should I try uping the VCore and see if it gets me any further? Memory is at +0.2V up from +0.1V (default) and that helped me get to where I am at now. Unlocking may have to wait awhile.

Jul 21, 2002, 02:02 AM	#23
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	yep up the vcore. default is usually 1.75. suggest 1.80. just remember keep an eye on the temps

Jul 21, 2002, 08:15 AM	Thread Starter #25
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	VCore Well I raised the VCore to 1.84V (next highest availble, as it is done with jumpers) and set the FSB to 150. Windows loaded and I left it at the desktop just to check out how the temps where doing. When downstairs for abit and came back and it was at the login screen. Temperature upon restart in BIOS was 48 C, so I lowered the FSB to 148, and thats where I am at now, temperature is currently at 45 C. Haven't stressed it yet, but will do that next.

Jul 21, 2002, 08:21 AM	#26
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	need.... better.... hsf.... and what are idle temps reported by MBM 5 after windows running for 5 min or so? and volts?

Jul 21, 2002, 08:59 AM	Thread Starter #27
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Well ran "Burn-In" for 40 times and highest tmeperature was 51 C. Idle temperature for running Windows for 5 Min is about 43 to 45 C. Voltages remain pretty consistent, averages are as follows: CPU ---> 1.84V (Constant) AGP ---> 1.51V (Constant) +3.3 ---> 3.28V +5.00 --> 4.85V +12.00 -> 11.66V -5.00 --> 0.00V -12.00 -> 0.00V

Jul 21, 2002, 09:30 AM	#28
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	everything looks good. run it on up until your 12v rail won't let you go no more! PM me your email addy and I'll send you "toast" utility if you don't have it already. it's a cpu burn in tool. run it for 5 minutes and see if still stable and what cpu temp reaches

Jul 21, 2002, 07:49 PM	#29
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Just noticed that!! We are using the same Mobo (mine is the + version with RAID) and the same processor. The memory I am using is only PC2400 (OCZ) but it will run the "Fast" timings at 160 and will run the "Normal" up to 170, but some of my PCI cards start crapping out at 42Mhz PCI bus, can't figure out why Next step will be to unlock it and try to get to 150, then go up 2Mhz at a time till you max the bus. I am running at 1600 at 1.85V vCore and +.2 DDR voltage and with decent memory and a decent HSF, you should be able hit that no problem. Good luck p.s. Rock stable boards aren't they?

Jul 21, 2002, 08:17 PM	Thread Starter #30
Maskclone2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Doesn't Exist Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for letting me know about your set up Desert_Siege. What are your temps running at and your voltages? Defeninatly(sp) rock stable boards. Maybe you'll know this, does the Mobo read the CPU temp from the internal diode or does it have it's own in the board in the center of the socket?