AMD DURON

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 12:40 PM

Ok i just these go these Mob and has AMIBIOS with CPU PnP. I want to OC the chip which is an AMD Duron but everything under the options of the CPU PnP properties (i.e. Brand
type speed core ratio the only thing i can change is the dramn fregueny at 100 and 133 or the speed 900 04 1200 Mhz. Any body know how to oc it?

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 12:41 PM

Sorry about eh double post guys

shuki · Jul 23, 2002, 12:53 PM

edit original post then thers is "delete" key. check it then click submit

WyreTheWolf · Jul 23, 2002, 01:59 PM

I took care of it.

MiguelSantana · Jul 23, 2002, 02:37 PM

could you list your specs ?

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 03:13 PM

AMD Duron 900Mhz
256megs of PC133 RAM
40 gig WD HDD
12X8X32 Sony Supressa (not real sure of the rewrite and data access time times i know it burns at 12X though

56X Acer cd rom dirve
SiS chipset AMI bios
56K amr modem
Nvidia Riva TNT 2 m64 32 med video card
On board Sound
On board Trident video (disabled)
On board LAN
USB 2.0
AMI Bios with PnP CPU and Hardware moniter
ORB (sumthin like that not real sure of the name) slot A cpu cooler
300 watt PSU

i think thats about it not much but the mobo can also take a AMD XP proc so i will prolly upgrade in the future. If you need know anything else let me know.

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 03:24 PM

Temps and power Via MBM5

CPU temp - 40C
System temp 30C
v.core 1.616 v
vcc 2.5v - 2.464v
vcc 3.3v - 3.312
vcc 5.0v - 2.999v
+12v -12.096v
-12v - 11.639
SB3v - 3.488
SB5v - 5.053
Volage Batt 3.488

DallasStar · Jul 23, 2002, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sourcer_2002
AMD Duron 900Mhz
256megs of PC133 RAM
40 gig WD HDD
12X8X32 Sony Supressa (not real sure of the rewrite and data access time times i know it burns at 12X though

56X Acer cd rom dirve
SiS chipset AMI bios
56K amr modem
Nvidia Riva TNT 2 m64 32 med video card
On board Sound
On board Trident video (disabled)
On board LAN
USB 2.0
AMI Bios with PnP CPU and Hardware moniter
ORB (sumthin like that not real sure of the name) slot A cpu cooler
300 watt PSU

i think thats about it not much but the mobo can also take a AMD XP proc so i will prolly upgrade in the future. If you need know anything else let me know.

What SPECIFICALLY is your motherboard called?

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 03:32 PM

um i think its PCchips or some off brand board i now i should get a new but maybe in do time on the Manual it tell me Pc 266 system board socket A m810 series

sjohnson · Jul 23, 2002, 04:43 PM

The M810 is the cosmetically different twin of the ECS K7S5A. To overclock, you have two choices:

Get chfsb or SpeedFan and change the FSB from within windows, or get a hacked O/C bios from the ECS forums of ocworkbench.com or from http://pub65.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum . Even though your mobo will then think it is a K7S5A, no worries as the only difference between the motherboards is the PCB color.

Note that you will have no soft multiplier, no BIOS voltage selection, limited memory settings and FSB's limited to (synchronous) 100, 103, 107, 110, 112, 124, 133, 138, 142, 147, 150, 166 and 200.

Suggest visit to http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop...resistors.html to see what bridges to cut and paint on the CPU to set a decent multiplier for the O/C effort, as well.

If you exhaust these suggestions, there are some other, exotic mods that can be made - involving soldering the motherboard...

JavaFox · Jul 23, 2002, 04:56 PM

Well, your chip probably isn't unlocked, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that a cheaper ECS or PCChips (aren't they the same company?) board would allow you to change multipliers anyway. One thing, though -- the K7S5A was so popular of a board that people wrote an unofficial overclockers BIOS for it. Perhaps your board has one?

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 04:56 PM

so how excatly cafe is flashing the bios to to "trick it or whatever" i know it nots gonna be safe becasue im flashin it but what are the chances of it working?

sjohnson · Jul 23, 2002, 05:23 PM

I know it's a leap of faith, you don't know me from a hole in the wall, but check out either the ocworkbench ECS forums or http://pub65.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum (my favorite) and ask the peeps there: you should have no problem, other than normal flashing issues. Others have gone before you

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 06:02 PM

ok i d/l it i got some rom file how do i use/install it?

DallasStar · Jul 23, 2002, 06:11 PM

You go to your mobo manufacturer's website and download the bios flash utility and follow the directions. Note: you will need to have a dos boot disk in order to safely do this. Also note: mess up and your board becomes a hunk of crap

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 06:17 PM

ya i know thats why i think im just gonna use a proggie (not a clue what one or where to get one) to change it in windows. Anyone recommend anything?

sjohnson · Jul 23, 2002, 06:47 PM

For windows FSB changers, use SpeedFan ( http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php ) or chfsb ( http://pub65.ezboard.com/fk7s5amothe...picID=10.topic ). Personally I like SpeedFan

(Edit) Oh, lie to SpeedFan and tell it you have an Elitegroup K7S5A, it has no setting for the PCChips M810...

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 07:04 PM

Ya it tired the chfsb but i cant get it to work (i think it's XP related) I got SpeedFan and it's a great program thanks a lot for all the help sjohson and dallasstar. Also if i do decide to unclock the cpu any know if/i will can any more spped or stablity then just uping the FSB?

EDIT: Sorry Java props to you too man

sjohnson · Jul 23, 2002, 07:55 PM

I always overclock for bandwidth (highest FSB) and then set the multiplier of my CPU for its max MHz at that FSB. Overall best performance that way, with the right cards, HD's etc. you won't have any problem with high buss speeds.

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 08:48 PM

I have problem in the CPU PnP menu i can set my DRAM speed is now set to 100mhz i can change it to 133mhz i have pc133 Ram and i osume that pc133 means that it can run at a clock speed of 133mhz? Well if i change it in my BIOS and save the change and go to reboot it starts to reboot but gives me and error about ntfs.sys is missing or corpput i know it's not corpput because if i change the DRAM back to 100mhz it boots just fine? is it my RAM or some windows protection thang. Or does have somthin with my NTFS partition o dont know thats why im you guys know. Also i can change the cpu speed from 900mhz to 1200 its a 900mhz proc but if i change it to 1200 will make any different or just not work?

(EDIT: wow i just relized how bad i type when it's dark and i cant see the keyboard

)

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 23, 2002, 08:51 PM

also so the only way i can i change my multiplier is either unlock the proc or flash the bios?

sjohnson · Jul 24, 2002, 05:29 AM

She wouldn't boot at 133 prolly because you were pushing your 900 (9X100) to 1200 (9x133) and it can't make it at stock volts (or, simply just can't make it).

The ONLY way to change the multiplier and Vcc on an un-modded 810/K7S5A is by changing the bridges on the CPU - see my previous posts in this thread for a link to ocinside.de and what bridges need to be changed...

Jul 23, 2002, 12:40 PM	#1
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	AMD DURON Ok i just these go these Mob and has AMIBIOS with CPU PnP. I want to OC the chip which is an AMD Duron but everything under the options of the CPU PnP properties (i.e. Brand type speed core ratio the only thing i can change is the dramn fregueny at 100 and 133 or the speed 900 04 1200 Mhz. Any body know how to oc it?

Jul 23, 2002, 02:37 PM	#5
MiguelSantana DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cohoes ,NY Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	could you list your specs ? __________________ AMD XP1900@1600Mhz Ecs-k7s6a 384 meg PC2100 Geforce 3 200/460 WinXP Pro/Plus

Jul 23, 2002, 03:13 PM	Thread Starter #6
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Specs AMD Duron 900Mhz 256megs of PC133 RAM 40 gig WD HDD 12X8X32 Sony Supressa (not real sure of the rewrite and data access time times i know it burns at 12X though 56X Acer cd rom dirve SiS chipset AMI bios 56K amr modem Nvidia Riva TNT 2 m64 32 med video card On board Sound On board Trident video (disabled) On board LAN USB 2.0 AMI Bios with PnP CPU and Hardware moniter ORB (sumthin like that not real sure of the name) slot A cpu cooler 300 watt PSU i think thats about it not much but the mobo can also take a AMD XP proc so i will prolly upgrade in the future. If you need know anything else let me know.

Jul 23, 2002, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #7
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Temps and power Via MBM5 Temps and power Via MBM5 CPU temp - 40C System temp 30C v.core 1.616 v vcc 2.5v - 2.464v vcc 3.3v - 3.312 vcc 5.0v - 2.999v +12v -12.096v -12v - 11.639 SB3v - 3.488 SB5v - 5.053 Volage Batt 3.488

Jul 23, 2002, 06:11 PM	#15
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	You go to your mobo manufacturer's website and download the bios flash utility and follow the directions. Note: you will need to have a dos boot disk in order to safely do this. Also note: mess up and your board becomes a hunk of crap __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 23, 2002, 12:41 PM	Thread Starter #2
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Sorry about eh double post guys

Jul 23, 2002, 12:53 PM	#3
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	edit original post then thers is "delete" key. check it then click submit

Jul 23, 2002, 01:59 PM	#4
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	I took care of it.

Jul 23, 2002, 03:32 PM	Thread Starter #9
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	um i think its PCchips or some off brand board i now i should get a new but maybe in do time on the Manual it tell me Pc 266 system board socket A m810 series

Jul 23, 2002, 04:43 PM	#10
sjohnson DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stewartsville, NJ U.S.A. Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	The M810 is the cosmetically different twin of the ECS K7S5A. To overclock, you have two choices: Get chfsb or SpeedFan and change the FSB from within windows, or get a hacked O/C bios from the ECS forums of ocworkbench.com or from http://pub65.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum . Even though your mobo will then think it is a K7S5A, no worries as the only difference between the motherboards is the PCB color. Note that you will have no soft multiplier, no BIOS voltage selection, limited memory settings and FSB's limited to (synchronous) 100, 103, 107, 110, 112, 124, 133, 138, 142, 147, 150, 166 and 200. Suggest visit to http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop...resistors.html to see what bridges to cut and paint on the CPU to set a decent multiplier for the O/C effort, as well. If you exhaust these suggestions, there are some other, exotic mods that can be made - involving soldering the motherboard...

Jul 23, 2002, 04:56 PM	#11
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Well, your chip probably isn't unlocked, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that a cheaper ECS or PCChips (aren't they the same company?) board would allow you to change multipliers anyway. One thing, though -- the K7S5A was so popular of a board that people wrote an unofficial overclockers BIOS for it. Perhaps your board has one?

Jul 23, 2002, 04:56 PM	Thread Starter #12
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	so how excatly cafe is flashing the bios to to "trick it or whatever" i know it nots gonna be safe becasue im flashin it but what are the chances of it working?

Jul 23, 2002, 05:23 PM	#13
sjohnson DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stewartsville, NJ U.S.A. Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I know it's a leap of faith, you don't know me from a hole in the wall, but check out either the ocworkbench ECS forums or http://pub65.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum (my favorite) and ask the peeps there: you should have no problem, other than normal flashing issues. Others have gone before you

Jul 23, 2002, 06:02 PM	Thread Starter #14
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	ok i d/l it i got some rom file how do i use/install it?

Jul 23, 2002, 06:17 PM	Thread Starter #16
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	ya i know thats why i think im just gonna use a proggie (not a clue what one or where to get one) to change it in windows. Anyone recommend anything?

Jul 23, 2002, 06:47 PM	#17
sjohnson DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stewartsville, NJ U.S.A. Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	For windows FSB changers, use SpeedFan ( http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php ) or chfsb ( http://pub65.ezboard.com/fk7s5amothe...picID=10.topic ). Personally I like SpeedFan (Edit) Oh, lie to SpeedFan and tell it you have an Elitegroup K7S5A, it has no setting for the PCChips M810...

Jul 23, 2002, 07:04 PM	Thread Starter #18
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Ya it tired the chfsb but i cant get it to work (i think it's XP related) I got SpeedFan and it's a great program thanks a lot for all the help sjohson and dallasstar. Also if i do decide to unclock the cpu any know if/i will can any more spped or stablity then just uping the FSB? EDIT: Sorry Java props to you too man

Jul 23, 2002, 07:55 PM	#19
sjohnson DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stewartsville, NJ U.S.A. Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I always overclock for bandwidth (highest FSB) and then set the multiplier of my CPU for its max MHz at that FSB. Overall best performance that way, with the right cards, HD's etc. you won't have any problem with high buss speeds.

Jul 23, 2002, 08:48 PM	Thread Starter #20
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	I have problem in the CPU PnP menu i can set my DRAM speed is now set to 100mhz i can change it to 133mhz i have pc133 Ram and i osume that pc133 means that it can run at a clock speed of 133mhz? Well if i change it in my BIOS and save the change and go to reboot it starts to reboot but gives me and error about ntfs.sys is missing or corpput i know it's not corpput because if i change the DRAM back to 100mhz it boots just fine? is it my RAM or some windows protection thang. Or does have somthin with my NTFS partition o dont know thats why im you guys know. Also i can change the cpu speed from 900mhz to 1200 its a 900mhz proc but if i change it to 1200 will make any different or just not work? (EDIT: wow i just relized how bad i type when it's dark and i cant see the keyboard )

Jul 23, 2002, 08:51 PM	Thread Starter #21
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	also so the only way i can i change my multiplier is either unlock the proc or flash the bios?

Jul 24, 2002, 05:29 AM	#22
sjohnson DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stewartsville, NJ U.S.A. Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	She wouldn't boot at 133 prolly because you were pushing your 900 (9X100) to 1200 (9x133) and it can't make it at stock volts (or, simply just can't make it). The ONLY way to change the multiplier and Vcc on an un-modded 810/K7S5A is by changing the bridges on the CPU - see my previous posts in this thread for a link to ocinside.de and what bridges need to be changed...