[itchy5]

im going to put my sisters system up for the mainstream title lol :P

[CDsDontBurn]

i think i'll put up my sister's comp upto the challenge as well .

and -jAk- (A.K.A. jaKup @ nVnews.....A.K.A. nVnews mod.....on top of that.....i work w/the guy !!!!) should be taken down cuz he hasn't updated his scores and hasn't complied with the rules imposed to us by DOM.

Not only that....i think there should now be another categor for those people who run SLI configurations.

[Volcom929]

I am going to bench and try for the ATI Pro Stock...again. I was beat out by an SLI setup a few weeks ago. I was wondering if you guys think SLI rigs should have there own category? I mean I could clock my stuff way up to the limits and an SLI setup with 2 6800 Ultras at stock will beat a single card clocked way up everytime handsdown.

[Son_of_Thunder]

Originally Posted by Volcom929

I am going to bench and try for the ATI Pro Stock...again. I was beat out by an SLI setup a few weeks ago. I was wondering if you guys think SLI rigs should have there own category? I mean I could clock my stuff way up to the limits and an SLI setup with 2 6800 Ultras at stock will beat a single card clocked way up everytime handsdown.

i agree. seeing as SLI cost sooo much more than regular pci-e, and it can beat even a supermodified system, it really deserves it's own category.

maybe a new category that involves FX-55's and sli cards could be arranged

[CDsDontBurn]

well, i don't agree w/high end CPUs in their own category...well, we already have that, it's the intel/amd supermodified???? well anyways....i do agree that there should be an SLI division. Most peeps who have an SLI set up will more than likely have at a minimum a 3500+.

[starfury6]

I'd be up for the SLI division I guess if DHzer0point drivers are allowed that is.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=595558
3dmark05 9353 no o/c

FX55 and Dual 6800 Ultra's.

[CDsDontBurn]

CDsDontBurn (6,014) < starfury6 (9,353)

i got pwnt! lol. It's cool tho, we got completely different systems .

[starfury6]

Increadible leap with SLI...

First time my system pwned anyone

I want my own category! hehe

[CDsDontBurn]

heheh.....good upgrade man. and you should have your own category . not fair to those of us who only have one video card in their machine .

[starfury6]

Well if you can't handle the competition....

J/K I guess I'll watch this space to see when I can enter.

[CDsDontBurn]

you can enter right now under the "AMD pro stock" competition, but others are likely to complain because you have two video cards

[UDTFROG]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

you can enter right now under the "AMD pro stock" competition, but others are likely to complain because you have two video cards

Let'em complain...This way we with SLI will have our own division.

[Son_of_Thunder]

Originally Posted by UDTFROG

Let'em complain...This way we with SLI will have our own division.

did that confuse anyone else? let them complain about us destroying them in their competition, this way we have out own SLi devision? that doesn't make sense...

[UDTFROG]

Originally Posted by Son_of_Thunder

did that confuse anyone else? let them complain about us destroying them in their competition, this way we have out own SLi devision? that doesn't make sense...

If they complain loud enough it may force the creation of an SLI division..Now do you get it??

[CDsDontBurn]

i think that the only person who would do this would be DOM, and would probably need approval from Zardon. I think that as we continue to bring up the topic of having an SLI division, that eventually one will be opened up.

I think what they (Zardon and other Admins), is for intel to release their SLI boards in order to make both an Intel and AMD division of the SLI competition.

[starfury6]

I'd be in it but I'm having some problems. It appears my PSU might not be up to the job and RyderOCZ is helping me diagnose....

[Son_of_Thunder]

wouldn't the latest entry for AMD mainstream actually be condidered AMD stock? it's a xp-m oc'ed to 2.some ghz and a 9800xt rather than the limit of 9800pro.

[[hobo]eclipse]

Cant really see where yer comin from, n where extacly an xt will fit into da mix if not here, would a 256 MB R360 core 9800 pro overclocked to default XT speeds of 412/365 not count cause it may as well be a XT? Its Just a slightly better core runnin on the same architechture, Just as a 9800pro is to a 9700pro. Also the specs for the Mainstream CPU says all AMD Athlon XP 2800+ CPU types/CORE

Not really a big deal really, juss reformatted n benched after n didnt really see any score increase so i figured i might as well post cause i was thinkin bout it a while. If its wrong n needs ousted, owells, dats why we gots da super mods!

[Son_of_Thunder]

i dunno, i'm just saying what the rules say. the processor is shady, because it's running much faster than the 2800+, but then again, it started off lower, and there weren't any limits put on proc oc's. but the rules do clearly say that the 9800pro is the cut off point.

i dunno though, the amd mainstream isn't my arena anymore, so i don't really care. it's just hard seeing my win for that arena going further and further back into the history books :P

*edit*

looks like dom has ruled in your favor, congrats dude

[davidnsibs]

nah, congrats, overclocking is allowed as long as at stock your processor was a 2800 or lower. and i think by 9800 or lower its just cant be a current generation (x800 or 6800) card. i did enjoy having the avater for a month or so, but i dont think any amount of tweaking will get my 9500pro up to a 9800xt's performance!

[[hobo]eclipse]

w00t!! thanx doods, fer the friendly discussion n all!!

[C47]

i read the above post - no 9800XTs in mainstream!!!!!!! (unless dom says so


are you saying that you had ur pro flashed to xt and then OVERCLOCKED to 459Mhz?

or do your have an XT with oc'd settings



btw what are your CPU and northbridge tempps hobo? and how many case fans youve got?

[Ubergrendle]

maybe a rethink of the categories is in order? We've got SLI in the mix now, and I don't think you can even buy Barton XP cpus anymore...most places sell Semperon's as the entry point, A64s for anyone considering performance and FX55/57 for uber elitists.

FX & SLI should be the supermodified category methinks. It will become even more complicated when dual cores start to come out...

Of course, the fact that my rig is too good for AMD Stock/Mainstream but not good enough to compete in Pro / Supermodified categories has nothing to do with my opinion.

[[hobo]eclipse]

@ c47

Ya i got a strait up 9800xt, bought it from BestBuy Christmas of 03, Im pretty sure all the 9800xt RAM is spec'ed @ 400 mhz DDR, cant quite remember where i read this @. and the Core i only generally run like that when im benchin (459 mhz) usually put her @ bout 430-440 mhz when jammin sum games n such, weird thing is acording to the overdrive temp my card never goes over 70 celcius, which is where it sits @ with stock timings.

My CPU usually idles @ 40c n loads @ round 50c, the northbridge @ 20c or so, this is with MBM, with it i get an extra sensor being read rather than with ASUS Probe, with MBM i get Northbridge, Socket, and Diode but with Probe i only get Northbridge n Socket, when compare the 2 (Dont run both @ same time, sumthin gets corrupted) the Socket n Nbridge r the same in both n the Diode in MBM is always slightly higher than the socket, bout 10c or so.

My Rig is runnin in an Antec Sonata Case witha 120mm fan sukin in air in the front a controlable 120mm Thermaltake fan in the bak to blow out heat fast if needed, and on my Mobile its a thermaltake extreme 12 Volcano with adjustable fanspeeds. Wat i do is turn both fans all the way down, then turn up the volcano till its barely audible, bout juss below 1/2 way, then adjust the exhaust fan with my temps n watever im doin. Right now in the winter time i can run this thing very very silent in still acheive these temps but in the heat of summer commin up ill prolly jusss tamer down a bit cause i dont wanna have a howler in my room!

BTW this is one of dem IQYHA or watever stepping mobile n the most balenced overclock is that it will do 2.367 ghz @ 1.675, but here i was a crankin 4 the avay, but it has been runnin dis speed 4 bouta month now woth absolutly no probs or BSOD, if 2.48 reqired any more than 1.725 id prolly juss chill @ 2.36

Yas my deluxe is wats holdin bak my FSB overclock, 230 will get me ito windows but with BSOD n corrupted shortcuts n such, my RAM passes memtest @ 230 @ 2,3,2,11 Shoulda got me DFI Infinty Ultra or an Abit but at the time i was lookin for stability rather than raw power, thay have higher vdimm voltages and a northbridge voltage that can actully be changed

[C47]

2 120mm fans...that explains 20C chipset temps
'i am looking for a hsf myself...its Vantec Aeroflow II
thanks for the respose

[CDsDontBurn]

zoi.....i feel my days as intel pro stock are soon coming to an end

[Asmoday]

I will be running this competiton for now, so I'm the one to pm the results from now on.
the first thing i've done is i updated the Mainstream class' graphic card limit to Ati X700Pro and Nvidia 6600GT instead of the 9800pro and 5900Ultra. I think that is more up to date, if you don't agree with the graphic cards i mentioned being mainstream, don't hesitate to let me know what cards you'd like to have there instead.

Asmoday

[CDsDontBurn]

now that intel does have it's SLI class, can there be both an AMD and Intel SLI division of the competition? I think it's only fair for those of us with only one video card .

However, the problem with that is that if the person has two 6600GTs, then it will be like 1 6800GT. For SLI, i think it should be only for those with high end video cards (2 x 6800GTs or higher)

[Drakon]

I agree with CDB's suggestions. A SLI class would be appropriate. Give us non sli users a better chance of holding the title a little longer

[Driver 7]

Wow. I finally have a system that can compete and future mark wont accept my submissions. I dont exactally know why. I'm thinking it's because the CPU is to new and that they are not up to date.

I tried installing the AMD CPU driver thinking that may help but no such luck. Anyone else experience the same thing? The CPU is a X2 4200 dual core.