Roadee's Fastest Rig Competition Discussion Thread

El Kapitano · Apr 4, 2004, 10:43 AM

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Really? Are you using the ASUS K8V? Because I am using the Via controllers aswell. They are extremley fast in comparison to the promise. Also are you using raid? If so. What 4 in 1 Driver are you using?

Driver 7 - I'm using the K8V Deluxe, Hyperion 451 4 in 1's, the 220e Via raid driver and Two Maxtor 80 gigs in raid 0.

I've tried the Pcmark04 and the free version only gives a pcmark score not a split HDD/Memory/vga etc. Which to my mind is what we really need to give people an indication of where to look to improve scores.

free_refil · Apr 4, 2004, 05:09 PM

Someone needs to get this straightened out! Are we going to use PCMark04? Some revised rules need to be composed soon, because I was planning on doing a rebuild and bench tonight!

El Kapitano · Apr 4, 2004, 05:48 PM

I've just done a rebuild (had to, fubar'd my raid) and my full software reinstall is on hold till this is sorted, and I'm away from tomorrow for 5 days so I'll leave you all to sort this one out.

I've just checked out Aquamark and its a 64 Meg download.. that'll have to wait till I can get into the office (I'm still on dial up BT wont install ADSL round here-rotten bastards).

I'm voting for Crystalmark08, it's a small download and it's a whole machine benchmark rather than a graphics benchmark with scoring breakdown.

TTFN - El

Logla · Apr 4, 2004, 05:52 PM

I havent tested any of the other mentioned benchmarks yet, but I would say that we have to use something that records the results and uploads them to a site such as ORB where the results can't be tampered with.

This would be the most important part of which bencher to choose because it means fair competition. As far as I can see, it would make sense to use PCMark04.

free_refil · Apr 4, 2004, 07:36 PM

Right, which is why we should move to PCMark04!

Driver 7 · Apr 4, 2004, 09:04 PM

I for mainly selfish reasons second that. But if there is something else. What was the bench that came with Norton System utilities. Performance test I think it was. Was not all that great.

I dont care. Aslong as I can compete again. I cant just up and quit after a year of working on it. I was soooooo close before I turned Incompatable with 02.

El Kapitano · Apr 4, 2004, 09:10 PM

Are you lot talking the freebie version or going registered thus getting the scores for hdd's etc.?

free_refil · Apr 4, 2004, 09:20 PM

Well, it would HAVE to be the freebie version, seeing that we cannot make everyone who wants to enter the competition PAY for entering it!

Judas · Apr 4, 2004, 09:23 PM

well hope bout this... why don't we just move over the PCmark 04 till we can get something... that way we won't have a major pause because of it

El Kapitano · Apr 4, 2004, 10:00 PM

I'll go along with that. Should we edit our previous entries or post anew?

free_refil · Apr 4, 2004, 11:25 PM

I believe so, who run's this thing anyways? They should get a little more involved!!! Say "PCMark04 now, everyone re-post!"

Driver 7 · Apr 5, 2004, 02:44 AM

Is it official yet? It is the only option unless there are copies of sysmark for everyone somewhere.

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 05:54 AM

Actually i have another suggestion.. this one if MUCH better..... you can post up links to the results... i would have to say it's HACK proof enless someone really know hows to get around it without screwing up there scores..... i've ran it using normal/low/high priroity with zero difference in scores except for the 1-2% thingy... it also will bring you down if you have ANY errors or possible problems with your rig durring the test... go to www.PCPITSTOP.com and register for free.... run the FULL test.... finish with the results... (usually for a machine like mine... i get around 1500 for marks)..... small download is nessary... using an active x installer.... 3mb i think... so very very dailup friendly.... give me a bit to do another test with it and i'll figure out how to post up results again.... (they even have a compare kinda thing)

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 06:06 AM

Basically.. it doesn't matter what resolution you run... but it does matter if you have background programs running...

Basically the same as 3d mark.... it's quick easy.... and give you some information back....

You can directly link to your score for others to see by click the "Share your score via tech express" link and coping the link they provide...

When you run the test... at the end.. it'll ask you were you are.... what your connection is.. how fast it's rated... to keep all scores fair.. SET THIS TO:

UNKNOWN

if you don't... the best case senario is 10 marks are knocked off your total score.... not exactly great... however.. if you end up getting what you are saposed to.... you get nill anyways.... consider yourself lucky.... (for example... if your internet is rated as t3... and you end up with a ping to some random site above 100ms.... boom... you lost 10.. and depending on how bad it is.. you lose more)

I just did a quick run... i ended up with 1420....

http://www.pcpitstop.com/techexpress...89AWUPGCMSKBBX

Driver 7 · Apr 5, 2004, 08:35 AM

I have run a bunch of benches there. I have there 3rd highest svore. Or Had 3 weeks ago anyway. I do not really like it. If you run it in 16bit you will pick up 100 points. Also some of there results are based on internet bandwidth. And they make ya do silly things like turn your temp internet files folder to 65mb to get a better score.

And it does matter if you have programs running. to many and they yellow flag ya.

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 08:41 AM

linkage?.... it's a start though....

i tried running in 16 bit color.. but i didn't get an increase

**Roadee** · Apr 6, 2004, 03:30 AM

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this subject......health reason's that are unavoidable are to blame. It looks like most everyone involved seems to be able to use PCMark2004 without any problem. I dont really like not having the separate scores......but not much I can do about that. So with this in mind.......here is what we will do.

Everyone that is currently holding a top spot "avatar" please edit your entries to include PCMark 2004 to take the place of PCMark 2002. I will also be sending out PM's to anyone that doesn't get there's updated in the next day or two. This will also include those people that have scores posted for a challenge. I will post in that thread as well and edit the rules to reflect the change.

Since this was one of the many things that many of us encounter in our hobby........I am sure that it isn't much of an inconvience for anyone. So on with the contest guys......lets see what kind of scores we will have to compete with now!!

free_refil · Apr 6, 2004, 03:49 AM

Okey doke, if I'm not too tired after Emergency Response Training today, I'll get to benching! I made a new partition on my RAID for benching ONLY, so hopefully I'll get some better marks!

Judas · Apr 6, 2004, 04:27 AM

free Refil.... depending on were you place that "benchmark" Partition... if could end up making it slower..... for best results... try making a Swap file partition at the very beginning.... C:.... then the benchmark partition: D:... then a windows Partions :E:..... after that... continue on

Driver 7 · Apr 6, 2004, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Judas
linkage?.... it's a start though....

i tried running in 16 bit color.. but i didn't get an increase

Someone told me that in there forum. I'm not sure that I ever tried myself.

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Originally posted by Roadee
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this subject......health reason's that are unavoidable are to blame. It looks like most everyone involved seems to be able to use PCMark2004 without any problem. I dont really like not having the separate scores......but not much I can do about that. So with this in mind.......here is what we will do.

Aw Yea. Awesome man. Driver 7's back

Vampyromaniac · Apr 7, 2004, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Judas
i was just pushing out some numbers to get started.. currently i've updated the info a few times..

HOWEVER.... i've come to a conclusion.... i'm completely utterly FSB bound... as going from the default of 375/325 on my 9800 pro to 420/370 or even 450/400 (i did run this a few times without problems.. just a few dozen artifacts here and there... pixel shaders were really having a hard time).... introduce a max increase of 50-100 3DMarks in 2001... and just barely 300 in 03.... now considering i got a buddy running similare specs...with his FSB at 200.... he's pushing nearly 3-5K more in 2001... and nearly 500-1K more in 03....

well good luck anyway, it's gonna be tough to beat Omega . . . contemplating an upgrade?

I see you did crack 130 in 2001 Nature test, something I've been trying for, but doesn't seem to want to happen
Anyway my relatively measly comp manages 19,651 total right now (11626//5365//2660) so I'll not be submitting my links :blush:

Judas · Apr 7, 2004, 05:41 PM

well i won't upgrade till i up my PSU..... probably will get a healthy increase in all the benchmarks...

Vampyromaniac · Apr 8, 2004, 01:35 PM

I just managed to crack 130 in Nature

got 131.5
a minor accomplishment, I know, compared to the giants here
but I'll take what I can get

Judas · Apr 8, 2004, 06:35 PM

well.... i'm suprised i got a deal on my9800 pro..... because i was barely able to pass up even 100fps i think with my 9600np..... now i feel bigger... heh....

free_refil · Apr 8, 2004, 07:52 PM

What services should you disable in order to get good bench's on a reformatted system. I'm planning to re-format, install XP SP1, Chipset Drivers, DirectX 9.0b, WMP9, WM Decoder, then Omega's latest.

free_refil · Apr 11, 2004, 06:37 AM

Fresh format, TuneXP Optimized, all services disabled, all startup prog's disabled, fully defrag'd, 92mm Tornado on SP-94 and 80mm Tornado on ZM-80c... Expect updated benchy's today my friends!

DjTonic · Apr 11, 2004, 10:48 AM

Nice, nice

Logla · Apr 11, 2004, 12:55 PM

Well bugger!

I really thought I was going to have one of those avatars but it appears not. My P4 just wont go high enough. It runs absolutey rock solid @3.7 but wont go any higher and stay stable. I cant even get it to run benchies now as high as I could at first. It looks like I have degraded the chip a little.

I suppose I could go back to air cooling and get the pro-stock avy but I want the big one.

Damn!

Asmoday · Apr 11, 2004, 01:04 PM

Logla,

Have you been running all your benchies in 1:1.. ?

free_refil · Apr 11, 2004, 01:26 PM

Welp guy's, look's like I won't be benching after all. Today is my last day off before I go on vacation, and I just don't have the time for benching. I created a custom Hardware profile so that I can load XP without all the bloated services, and all that good junk, but I JUST bought FarCry and I've fallen in love. I'm guessing by the time I get back from vacation I won't have that shiny Avatar anymore. They should make an Avatar for those who ONCE had it, saying something like, "I used to be Intel Pro-Stock #1, but now I just suck!" LMAO...

Apr 4, 2004, 05:09 PM	#62
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Someone needs to get this straightened out! Are we going to use PCMark04? Some revised rules need to be composed soon, because I was planning on doing a rebuild and bench tonight! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 4, 2004, 07:36 PM	#65
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Right, which is why we should move to PCMark04! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 4, 2004, 09:04 PM	#66
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	I for mainly selfish reasons second that. But if there is something else. What was the bench that came with Norton System utilities. Performance test I think it was. Was not all that great. I dont care. Aslong as I can compete again. I cant just up and quit after a year of working on it. I was soooooo close before I turned Incompatable with 02. __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Apr 4, 2004, 09:20 PM	#68
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Well, it would HAVE to be the freebie version, seeing that we cannot make everyone who wants to enter the competition PAY for entering it! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 4, 2004, 11:25 PM	#71
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I believe so, who run's this thing anyways? They should get a little more involved!!! Say "PCMark04 now, everyone re-post!" __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 4, 2004, 05:48 PM	#63
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	I've just done a rebuild (had to, fubar'd my raid) and my full software reinstall is on hold till this is sorted, and I'm away from tomorrow for 5 days so I'll leave you all to sort this one out. I've just checked out Aquamark and its a 64 Meg download.. that'll have to wait till I can get into the office (I'm still on dial up BT wont install ADSL round here-rotten bastards). I'm voting for Crystalmark08, it's a small download and it's a whole machine benchmark rather than a graphics benchmark with scoring breakdown. TTFN - El

Apr 4, 2004, 05:52 PM	#64
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	I havent tested any of the other mentioned benchmarks yet, but I would say that we have to use something that records the results and uploads them to a site such as ORB where the results can't be tampered with. This would be the most important part of which bencher to choose because it means fair competition. As far as I can see, it would make sense to use PCMark04.

Apr 4, 2004, 09:10 PM	#67
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	Are you lot talking the freebie version or going registered thus getting the scores for hdd's etc.?

Apr 4, 2004, 10:00 PM	#70
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	I'll go along with that. Should we edit our previous entries or post anew?

Apr 5, 2004, 02:44 AM	#72
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	Is it official yet? It is the only option unless there are copies of sysmark for everyone somewhere. __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Apr 5, 2004, 08:35 AM	#75
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	I have run a bunch of benches there. I have there 3rd highest svore. Or Had 3 weeks ago anyway. I do not really like it. If you run it in 16bit you will pick up 100 points. Also some of there results are based on internet bandwidth. And they make ya do silly things like turn your temp internet files folder to 65mb to get a better score. And it does matter if you have programs running. to many and they yellow flag ya. __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Apr 6, 2004, 03:30 AM	#77
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 67	PCMark 2004 Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this subject......health reason's that are unavoidable are to blame. It looks like most everyone involved seems to be able to use PCMark2004 without any problem. I dont really like not having the separate scores......but not much I can do about that. So with this in mind.......here is what we will do. Everyone that is currently holding a top spot "avatar" please edit your entries to include PCMark 2004 to take the place of PCMark 2002. I will also be sending out PM's to anyone that doesn't get there's updated in the next day or two. This will also include those people that have scores posted for a challenge. I will post in that thread as well and edit the rules to reflect the change. Since this was one of the many things that many of us encounter in our hobby........I am sure that it isn't much of an inconvience for anyone. So on with the contest guys......lets see what kind of scores we will have to compete with now!! __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Apr 6, 2004, 03:49 AM	#78
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Okey doke, if I'm not too tired after Emergency Response Training today, I'll get to benching! I made a new partition on my RAID for benching ONLY, so hopefully I'll get some better marks! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 8, 2004, 01:35 PM	#83
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	hey now I just managed to crack 130 in Nature got 131.5 a minor accomplishment, I know, compared to the giants here but I'll take what I can get __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Apr 8, 2004, 07:52 PM	#85
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	What services should you disable in order to get good bench's on a reformatted system. I'm planning to re-format, install XP SP1, Chipset Drivers, DirectX 9.0b, WMP9, WM Decoder, then Omega's latest. __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 11, 2004, 06:37 AM	#86
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Fresh format, TuneXP Optimized, all services disabled, all startup prog's disabled, fully defrag'd, 92mm Tornado on SP-94 and 80mm Tornado on ZM-80c... Expect updated benchy's today my friends! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 11, 2004, 10:48 AM	#87
DjTonic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Nice, nice __________________ 3DMark2001SE- 23,118 3D Marks // Aquamark 3- 57,004 //3DMark03- 8,011 //

Apr 11, 2004, 12:55 PM	#88
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Well bugger! I really thought I was going to have one of those avatars but it appears not. My P4 just wont go high enough. It runs absolutey rock solid @3.7 but wont go any higher and stay stable. I cant even get it to run benchies now as high as I could at first. It looks like I have degraded the chip a little. I suppose I could go back to air cooling and get the pro-stock avy but I want the big one. Damn!

Apr 11, 2004, 01:04 PM	#89
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Logla, Have you been running all your benchies in 1:1.. ? __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Apr 11, 2004, 01:26 PM	#90
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Welp guy's, look's like I won't be benching after all. Today is my last day off before I go on vacation, and I just don't have the time for benching. I created a custom Hardware profile so that I can load XP without all the bloated services, and all that good junk, but I JUST bought FarCry and I've fallen in love. I'm guessing by the time I get back from vacation I won't have that shiny Avatar anymore. They should make an Avatar for those who ONCE had it, saying something like, "I used to be Intel Pro-Stock #1, but now I just suck!" LMAO... __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159