Roadee's Fastest Rig Competition Discussion Thread

Logla · Apr 11, 2004, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cartman
Logla,

Have you been running all your benchies in 1:1.. ?

Yep, everything in 1:1

I think it was the RAM voltages that were holding me back and the fact that the other half had the central heating on (my pc is located directly above our boiler) Today the weather has been kinder so I've had the heating off and the window open. Temps are now lower and I've been able to bench it a little more stable.

Were you going to suggest lowering the ratio by any chance?

Asmoday · Apr 11, 2004, 10:44 PM

Nope..i was just curious..

well it seems that you have beat my score now, good work Logla!!!

I would challenge you if i weren't broke atm, don't wanna risk frying anything..

edit : i see now that you beat me by 13 points...LOL that was close...hehe

free_refil · Apr 11, 2004, 10:59 PM

I give up. I broke 21k in 2001SE, but no where's near DjTonic's score, so, I guess i'm out.. It was nice having that avatar for a while!

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cartman
Nope..i was just curious.. well it seems that you have beat my score now, good work Logla!!!
I would challenge you if i weren't broke atm, don't wanna risk frying anything..

edit : i see now that you beat me by 13 points...LOL that was close...hehe

broke - I know the feeling - this little fastest rig compo has totally skinted me. "Allas poor walet, I knew him well"

I think there is still at least a couple more MHz I can sqeeze out of this baby yet but I was a real pain to get to where I am now. I had to push the ram to 3.2v which although OCZ reckon is ok, its still outside their warranty specs. This ram cost me £250 which is really expensive and I wanted the best there is so there is no way I'll be going over that.

If you cant get any further on your setup mate, I salute you. You really gave me some hard numbers to beat.

Asmoday · Apr 12, 2004, 12:26 AM

Well...i think i will retire from the competition for now, as i said i really can't afford breaking anything atm. I really need some better ram to compete seriously anyway, my current ram won't run stable past 235mhz fsb in 1:1....i had to run it at 5:4 to get my scores where they are now.
Once again congratulations!!! Well deserved!

Judas · Apr 12, 2004, 07:17 AM

i need some FSB loven....

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 10:09 AM

Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

3dmark does increase with HT off, its about the only benching program that does. only minor mind you, few hundred points tops.

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 10:13 AM

Thats wierd - was getting a consistent 50-100 point drop in the scores with it turned off.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 11:10 AM

Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

Asmoday · Apr 12, 2004, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

Actually i ran my 22794 run with it on...i tried with it both on and off, the weird thing is that when just doing moderate overclocking to the cpu, i get a slight increase a couple of hundred points as Zardon said. But when pushing the overclock past 3.9ghz i experienced fps drops, just as you did. Pretty weird...

Asmoday · Apr 12, 2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by free_refil
Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

Well...as far as i know, not all chips are able too go past 260mhz fsb, espacially not the 2.8C i've heard lots of people reporting that the 2.8's aren't as good overclockers as the 3.0's...

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by free_refil
Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

Yes take off the northbridge HS, get rid of the crappy thermal pad and put some AS5 on it, then reattach, worked for me. It could also be the situation cartman mentioned but its worth a try.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 12:03 PM

I have a Swiftech MCX-159 with AS5 under it!!!

Here's a pic of the inside of the case!

Asmoday · Apr 12, 2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by free_refil
I have a Swiftech MCX-159 with AS5 under it!!!

It seems like it is the chip then...

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 12:08 PM

yeah looks like it bud, time for a higher grade chip like a 3.0 or 3.2 to make up for the FSB.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 12:08 PM

I put a pic of the inside of the case.... It's really really crowded in there, as it's a PC-6070 with TON'S of stuff crammed in it! But I bench with the side off, the room freezing, and I had put a 92mm Tornado on it after the pic was taken! I wish it wasn't a limitation of the chip, I've been thinking about a new one, any suggestions on what I can get that'll get me to about 3.8GHz?

Asmoday · Apr 12, 2004, 12:12 PM

If you're lucky a 3.0chip will do 3.8ghz....but not all of them do, to be really certain to reach 3.8 you should get a 3.2 or 3.4 nortwood, if you have the budget that is...

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by free_refil
I put a pic of the inside of the case.... It's really really crowded in there, as it's a PC-6070 with TON'S of stuff crammed in it! But I bench with the side off, the room freezing, and I had put a 92mm Tornado on it after the pic was taken! I wish it wasn't a limitation of the chip, I've been thinking about a new one, any suggestions on what I can get that'll get me to about 3.8GHz?

Well its expensive but the 3.4 hits 3.8/3.9 on air with a MINOR voltage increase but your FSB wont be so hot. a 3.2 is much more cost effective and will allow you to hit higher FSBs as long as you get a good stepping. its really a luck of the draw thing. I went through several chips, a 3.0, two 3.2s and finally went to a 3.4 which will hit 4.0ghz on air cooling if you pump the volts through it. reason being the 3.4 chip is the newest stepping and has the same cache layout on the back as the EE and loves the volts, I sit at 3.9ghz at 1.7, ROCK solid 24/7. 3.4 chip is expensive though, but its the only option I recommend if you want to hit 3.8-4.0 without a problem. some 3.0s and 3.2 will hit that, but i would say less than 30%.

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 12:20 PM

incidentally if you read the prometeia review here you will see I had that chip at 4.3ghz stable on prommie, and it booted at 4.8ghz so there is ALOT of future proofing.

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 04:23 PM

Has to be said that my 3.0 is rock solid at 3.7 w/1.65v. yet just 1MHz above that and I get errors in Prime95 no matter what the voltage. I can get it to bench at 3.96 but that is the limit. Anything else and it reboots. If I take it up to 4.0 it doesn't boot and mashes up the CMOS.

I wonder when I get my shiny new avatar

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 07:21 PM

Now here's a wierd thing. I've now got it running at 3.76@1.65 and it seems to be stable - no errors at all in Prime95.

I couldn't get it to this over the weekend.

Wierd.

Judas · Apr 13, 2004, 06:03 AM

burn it the cpu possibly got it higher?

Logla · Apr 13, 2004, 02:16 PM

could be that - I'm going to keep it at 3.76 for the week and see what happens next weekend.

Asmoday · Apr 13, 2004, 02:20 PM

Wtf.....why do i still have the avatar?? Could somebody please hand it over to Logla...

Logla · Apr 13, 2004, 02:27 PM

I was just thinking that - very noble of you Cartman - I look forward to your future challenges

*looks at pelt cooling solutions*

Zardon · Apr 13, 2004, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
I was just thinking that - very noble of you Cartman - I look forward to your future challenges

*looks at pelt cooling solutions*

The changes happen on sunday, roadee looks after this, im sure he will sort it out when he is online. im going away for a while so if he doesnt return soon im sure one of the admins will step in and sort it out.

Judas · Apr 13, 2004, 06:36 PM

enjoy your trip Zardon....

**Roadee** · Apr 13, 2004, 11:17 PM

Sorry the update has taken so long.......it was due to circumstances beyond my control, and hopefully will not happen in the future.

The thread has been cleaned out of old post/losing entries and the only entries left are the winner's. A PM was sent to an Admin to change the avatar's that need to be changed

There are some really good scores this week, congrat's to the current competition winner's........very well deserved!!

Roadee
DH Moderator

Asmoday · Apr 14, 2004, 03:44 PM

I noticed that Logla haven't gotten the fastest rig avatar yet, and he should have got it three days ago. So out of respect i removed it from my account, it isn't mine to wear anymore....

/Cartman

Apr 11, 2004, 10:44 PM	#92
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Nope..i was just curious.. well it seems that you have beat my score now, good work Logla!!! I would challenge you if i weren't broke atm, don't wanna risk frying anything.. edit : i see now that you beat me by 13 points...LOL that was close...hehe __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Apr 11, 2004, 10:59 PM	#93
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I give up. I broke 21k in 2001SE, but no where's near DjTonic's score, so, I guess i'm out.. It was nice having that avatar for a while! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 12, 2004, 12:26 AM	#95
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Well...i think i will retire from the competition for now, as i said i really can't afford breaking anything atm. I really need some better ram to compete seriously anyway, my current ram won't run stable past 235mhz fsb in 1:1....i had to run it at 5:4 to get my scores where they are now. Once again congratulations!!! Well deserved! __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Apr 12, 2004, 11:10 AM	#100
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions? __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 12, 2004, 12:03 PM	#104
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I have a Swiftech MCX-159 with AS5 under it!!! Here's a pic of the inside of the case! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 12, 2004, 10:09 AM	#97
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Cartman, out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off? I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

Apr 12, 2004, 10:13 AM	#99
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Thats wierd - was getting a consistent 50-100 point drop in the scores with it turned off.

Apr 12, 2004, 12:08 PM	#106
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	yeah looks like it bud, time for a higher grade chip like a 3.0 or 3.2 to make up for the FSB.

Apr 12, 2004, 12:08 PM	#107
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I put a pic of the inside of the case.... It's really really crowded in there, as it's a PC-6070 with TON'S of stuff crammed in it! But I bench with the side off, the room freezing, and I had put a 92mm Tornado on it after the pic was taken! I wish it wasn't a limitation of the chip, I've been thinking about a new one, any suggestions on what I can get that'll get me to about 3.8GHz? __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

Apr 12, 2004, 12:12 PM	#108
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	If you're lucky a 3.0chip will do 3.8ghz....but not all of them do, to be really certain to reach 3.8 you should get a 3.2 or 3.4 nortwood, if you have the budget that is... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Apr 12, 2004, 12:20 PM	#110
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	incidentally if you read the prometeia review here you will see I had that chip at 4.3ghz stable on prommie, and it booted at 4.8ghz so there is ALOT of future proofing.

Apr 12, 2004, 04:23 PM	#111
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Has to be said that my 3.0 is rock solid at 3.7 w/1.65v. yet just 1MHz above that and I get errors in Prime95 no matter what the voltage. I can get it to bench at 3.96 but that is the limit. Anything else and it reboots. If I take it up to 4.0 it doesn't boot and mashes up the CMOS. I wonder when I get my shiny new avatar

Apr 12, 2004, 07:21 PM	#112
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Now here's a wierd thing. I've now got it running at 3.76@1.65 and it seems to be stable - no errors at all in Prime95. I couldn't get it to this over the weekend. Wierd.

Apr 13, 2004, 02:16 PM	#114
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	could be that - I'm going to keep it at 3.76 for the week and see what happens next weekend.

Apr 13, 2004, 02:20 PM	#115
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Wtf.....why do i still have the avatar?? Could somebody please hand it over to Logla... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Apr 13, 2004, 02:27 PM	#116
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	I was just thinking that - very noble of you Cartman - I look forward to your future challenges looks at pelt cooling solutions

Apr 13, 2004, 11:17 PM	#119
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 67	Fastest Rig Comp Sorry the update has taken so long.......it was due to circumstances beyond my control, and hopefully will not happen in the future. The thread has been cleaned out of old post/losing entries and the only entries left are the winner's. A PM was sent to an Admin to change the avatar's that need to be changed There are some really good scores this week, congrat's to the current competition winner's........very well deserved!! Roadee DH Moderator __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Apr 14, 2004, 03:44 PM	#120
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I noticed that Logla haven't gotten the fastest rig avatar yet, and he should have got it three days ago. So out of respect i removed it from my account, it isn't mine to wear anymore.... /Cartman __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg