My P4 3.0 just died...

Asmoday · Jun 8, 2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Logla
Does this mean that you fastest score still counts? Saying as the CPU is no more?

Seriously though mate I am sorry for your loss. I know how you feel. When I built my current rig, I installed everything and tried to fire it up - dead 3.0c. I was gutted.

My sympathies.

I don't want the avatar any longer...considering i don't have the hardware anymore...

You can from now on consider me a retired overclocking champion

My belt is vacant!!

btw...i removed the avatar...Go get it Logla!!

Logla · Jun 8, 2004, 08:41 PM

has the condensation killed only the cpu or the mobo/mem etc as well.

That would be a real bummer.

Asmoday · Jun 8, 2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Logla
has the condensation killed only the cpu or the mobo/mem etc as well.

That would be a real bummer.

I really hope that the mobo is ok...haven't checked yet...but hopefully it is...

Logla · Jun 8, 2004, 08:52 PM

I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya bud,

Asmoday · Jun 8, 2004, 09:04 PM

Thanks Logla!!

Asmoday · Jun 10, 2004, 04:55 PM

Pheeewww....i just tested my Max 3 with the gf's 2.53, and thank god!! It seems to be ok...

dipstick · Jun 10, 2004, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Cartman
Pheeewww....i just tested my Max 3 with the gf's 2.53, and thank god!! It seems to be ok...

That's great man, good to hear. But I have a question for ya. Did you pack the socket and bottom of the cpu with dielectric grease while you where running the Mach II?

Asmoday · Jun 10, 2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by kakarot
That's great man, good to hear. But I have a question for ya. Did you pack the socket and bottom of the cpu with dielectric grease while you where running the Mach II?

NOpe i didn't...and you shouldn't have too either......otherwise it would be in the manual, and nventiv should have supplied it. And...your mobo's warranty is void the second you put that on...
But i agree....if i would have put some grease on anyway, this might not have happened...

Zardon · Jun 10, 2004, 06:03 PM

yes thats the thing nventiv dont even state to use grease when setting it up. its not supplied with the complete package either and the dealers ive spoken to dont even recommend it.

maybe thats part of the reason they went bust !

scobywhru · Jun 10, 2004, 06:20 PM

Hey Cartman if you ever consider doing this again you might want to consider using some Fluid XP it looks like a modified mineral oil, its none conductive and has a 3year life unlike mineral oil.

if you could make a sealed box (sealed so no moister gets to the liquid) and put your motherboard and the rest of the electronics, minus the drives, fans and PSU and then you put the MachII back on the CPU, you wouldn't even need to have any insulation around it so it could cool everything in the box, just put a pump in to circulate the water and heatsinks on everything you want to cool.

It would be very important to keep the box sealed because if they dew point is low enough and the FluidXP cool enough there could be a chance water will condense and if it sinks to the bottom of the box... but thats if the fluid XP is lighter then water and/or its soluble with water. If its not watersoluble and its heavier then water you could probably just scim the water off the top. This is an idea I have been kicking around for a while now for myself for a silent PC by day and a Monster PC by night... Only problem I have to overcome is trying to take it to a LAN

merlinxi · Jun 10, 2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
with extreme overclocking these kind of risks are accepted especially with any kind of phase when condensation can happen (1300mhz overclock at -50c isnt a "normal overclock"). ive been overclocking (moderately) for 10 years and ive lost no hardware. relax, its a hobby we enjoy it.

As for your comments on watercooling, thats nonsense. temps under load even with a NON overclocked processor will help its life span. I dont mind people commenting on first hand experience, but this is how things spread, third hand knowledge from a friend of a friend. watercooling if you know what you are doing is safe. I doubt many beginners will attempt it anyway.

As I said it's a lot of money which you have to spend since I am ASSUMING you have a great job of which to do this. As for now I don't. So I will not take any risks in doing so. Though still if I want more speed instead of risking, I'll would just buy the chip for the faster speed, that's just me. I would only do the water cooling for the looks, as it is impressive to look at your work that you have accomplished and what you have created.

Merlin

pr0digal jenius · Jun 10, 2004, 07:14 PM

sorry to hear about yer rig cartman(now i can't drool all over it anymore

)...good luck findign a replacement, and just a reccomendation - newegg has the 2.4C HT 800FSB chips for about 150, and I know you live in sweden, but my guess would be you can find a similiar price, or someone *cough cough* over here willign to ship it to you at cost....l8r, and RIP p4

dipstick · Jun 10, 2004, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Cartman
NOpe i didn't...and you shouldn't have too either......otherwise it would be in the manual, and nventiv should have supplied it. And...your mobo's warranty is void the second you put that on...
But i agree....if i would have put some grease on anyway, this might not have happened...

Wow, if you told me that in the other thread I would of told you to stop using it asap! It would definitely not have happened if you did that bud. Any open air pockets will trap condensation, no matter how small. Sure is voids the warranty but it does clean off completely with some compressed air and some rubbbing alcohol. With the asetek kit they give you a HUGE tube of dielectric grease and special insulation for the hole in the socket. This is a must do bud, if you sell it make sure to let the guy know. Damn, if I only asked you earlier, I feel at some fault you lost that cpu..

Asmoday · Jun 10, 2004, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by kakarot
Wow, if you told me that in the other thread I would of told you to stop using it asap! It would definitely not have happened if you did that bud. Any open air pockets will trap condensation, no matter how small. Sure is voids the warranty but it does clean off completely with some compressed air and some rubbbing alcohol. With the asetek kit they give you a HUGE tube of dielectric grease and special insulation for the hole in the socket. This is a must do bud, if you sell it make sure to let the guy know. Damn, if I only asked you earlier, I feel at some fault you lost that cpu..

Naah...don't feel bad bud....you know, the only one to blame is nventiv...and you know what happened to them...

...
I wish they had recommeded to use the grease, but unfortunally they didn't...so i have to throw out another shitload of cash...

dipstick · Jun 10, 2004, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Cartman
Naah...don't feel bad bud....you know, the only one to blame is nventiv...and you know what happened to them......
I wish they had recommeded to use the grease, but unfortunally they didn't...so i have to throw out another shitload of cash...

Yeah man, that's definitely a rotten thing to do. I still can't believe they don't say anything about that.
Hope you work things out

scobywhru · Jun 11, 2004, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by scobywhru
Hey Cartman if you ever consider doing this again you might want to consider using some Fluid XP it looks like a modified mineral oil, its none conductive and has a 3year life unlike mineral oil.

if you could make a sealed box (sealed so no moister gets to the liquid) and put your motherboard and the rest of the electronics, minus the drives, fans and PSU and then you put the MachII back on the CPU, you wouldn't even need to have any insulation around it so it could cool everything in the box, just put a pump in to circulate the water and heatsinks on everything you want to cool.

It would be very important to keep the box sealed because if they dew point is low enough and the FluidXP cool enough there could be a chance water will condense and if it sinks to the bottom of the box... but thats if the fluid XP is lighter then water and/or its soluble with water. If its not watersoluble and its heavier then water you could probably just scim the water off the top. This is an idea I have been kicking around for a while now for myself for a silent PC by day and a Monster PC by night... Only problem I have to overcome is trying to take it to a LAN

I know I am quoting myself but for any one interested I just got a reply back from Drew Gilkey at fluid XP and it is Water soluble so if you were to cool it you would have a problem with water as it would mix in with the fluid and eventally probably short something out if not everything.

He aslo had concern about the capacitors and fluid under chips, so you could lacquer the board or otherwise coat it, which is what some people do with there custom Vapor Phase coolers to keep from shorting there boards out

denmason · Nov 18, 2006, 09:13 AM

Use a conformal spray, works great. Just mask off the socket and slots and spray the board front and back. And grease that socket real good!

Asmoday · Nov 18, 2006, 01:00 PM

Dude, this thread is two years old...

Drakon · Nov 18, 2006, 02:36 PM

For a min this thread had me confused. I was thinking, "Didn't Mike get a core 2 duo cpu, so why would he get angry about a p4 dying?" Now I know why

Asmoday · Nov 18, 2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakon

For a min this thread had me confused. I was thinking, "Didn't Mike get a core 2 duo cpu, so why would he get angry about a p4 dying?" Now I know why

Yea i'm over that old northwood now..

**temeteus82** · Nov 18, 2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Asmoday

Yea i'm over that old northwood now..

just remember not to push your core 2 to its limits too hard ... even when you had one or two many beers

NUCLEARWINTER · Nov 21, 2006, 12:37 AM

that's usually when i do some of my best overclocking

Asmoday · Nov 21, 2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NUCLEARWINTER

that's usually when i do some of my best overclocking

Yep same here..

Well, I think it is time for this thread to go back to the "land of dead and ancient threads"....

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scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	Hey Cartman if you ever consider doing this again you might want to consider using some Fluid XP it looks like a modified mineral oil, its none conductive and has a 3year life unlike mineral oil. if you could make a sealed box (sealed so no moister gets to the liquid) and put your motherboard and the rest of the electronics, minus the drives, fans and PSU and then you put the MachII back on the CPU, you wouldn't even need to have any insulation around it so it could cool everything in the box, just put a pump in to circulate the water and heatsinks on everything you want to cool. It would be very important to keep the box sealed because if they dew point is low enough and the FluidXP cool enough there could be a chance water will condense and if it sinks to the bottom of the box... but thats if the fluid XP is lighter then water and/or its soluble with water. If its not watersoluble and its heavier then water you could probably just scim the water off the top. This is an idea I have been kicking around for a while now for myself for a silent PC by day and a Monster PC by night... Only problem I have to overcome is trying to take it to a LAN __________________

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Jun 8, 2004, 08:41 PM	#32
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	has the condensation killed only the cpu or the mobo/mem etc as well. That would be a real bummer.

Jun 8, 2004, 08:52 PM	#34
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya bud,

Jun 10, 2004, 06:03 PM	#39
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	yes thats the thing nventiv dont even state to use grease when setting it up. its not supplied with the complete package either and the dealers ive spoken to dont even recommend it. maybe thats part of the reason they went bust !

Jun 10, 2004, 07:14 PM	#42
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	sorry to hear about yer rig cartman(now i can't drool all over it anymore )...good luck findign a replacement, and just a reccomendation - newegg has the 2.4C HT 800FSB chips for about 150, and I know you live in sweden, but my guess would be you can find a similiar price, or someone cough cough over here willign to ship it to you at cost....l8r, and RIP p4

Nov 18, 2006, 09:13 AM	#47
denmason DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tracy, Ca Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Use a conformal spray, works great. Just mask off the socket and slots and spray the board front and back. And grease that socket real good!

Nov 18, 2006, 02:36 PM	#49
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	For a min this thread had me confused. I was thinking, "Didn't Mike get a core 2 duo cpu, so why would he get angry about a p4 dying?" Now I know why