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Old Jun 7, 2004, 05:53 PM   #1
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Sad My P4 3.0 just died...

Damnit, damnit, damnit!!!!! Today my P4 died....and i'm seriousley considering skipping everything that resambles hardcore overclocking from now on...i simply can't afford these kind of setbacks. espacially when i just bought a house and everything....so it looks like im going to sell my mach II and get a good HSF and get back too basic(air)...as it feels like now...i'm through with overclocking....
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whoa that is bad cartman!

man thats why overclocking is dangerous

and to top it all off, nventiv went outta business
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man thats why overclocking is dangerous

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Sorry to hear that Cartman

What are you running now??

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Sorry to hear that Cartman

What are you running now??

Btw, nice new sig you got there.
yeah...i'm pretty depressed right now...im currently on my gf's rig...a 2.53 on a p4p...so i'm not totally screwed ...

And yeah...i like the Sig....(Thanks Tastyweat)
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yeah...i'm pretty depressed right now...im currently on my gf's rig...a 2.53 on a p4p...so i'm not totally screwed ...

And yeah...i like the Sig....(Thanks Tastyweat)
Well I hope you will sort this out, I can imagine how you feel about your CPU dying.
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Re: My P4 3.0 just died...

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Damnit, damnit, damnit!!!!! Today my P4 died....and i'm seriousley considering skipping everything that resambles hardcore overclocking from now on...i simply can't afford these kind of setbacks. espacially when i just bought a house and everything....so it looks like im going to sell my mach II and get a good HSF and get back too basic(air)...as it feels like now...i'm through with overclocking....
Sorry to hear that, Bro.

This is why I've never done "extreme" OCing, I don't blame you about not wanting to do it anymore.
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I'm propably going to get another 3.0 or even a 3.2C coupled with an TT SP-94....the mach i'm keeping for a while....i might sell it later on some internet auction...or you never know, perhaps i'll use it later on.....
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sorry to here that ur processor has died! u had a nice setup.
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i wanna see pictures of a proper barrial.... i hate when these unique special.. little components kick the bucket after doing swell.... aww..
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Yeah I had the same thing happen to an AMD 2200+.

I went from August of last year till January with only my laptop that isn't very good. The only thing I could play was Diablo II and I'll tell you I played the hell out of that game. Good thing there weren't many great games that came out the end of last year, it was bad enough going through withdrawl of COD, CS, and other games
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how does the chip look, and even with all that cooling how come it died?!
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he must of got it too cold.
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I know how you feel. Both of my motherboards died recently. Was stuck with my 200 mhz OpenBSD box for a while.
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he must of got it too cold.

i highly doubt that.....

as long as you don't suddenly get something to cold to quickly... or vice versa (from cold to warm to quickly)

actually.. the cooler you run electronic components... the better the signal.. less deviation is stength .... less problems... even better preformance "at stock" if it's cold enough of course... you won't see a boost with -50*C... but at below -200*C.... you will

Super Coducting... yeah baby... now only if we were able to super cool the entire mobo and parts.... and keep them that cool.... *goes to warp for lala land*
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that really sux, that was a powerful rig you had aswell
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I have never smoked a chip, are you sure man....reallllllly sure you smoked the processor...what ever it takes man...run another mobo check and see...or get an AMD product....
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it died from condensation.
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oh my god.....I never considered that...cpu's are so precious, this might sound odd, but I have all of mine from the first 286 and up from all my own machines, I keep them in a little box for safekeeping for who knows what purpose, wow....a dead chip
I should write a eulogy for the smoked P4, seems only fitting
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it died from condensation.
Ouch! But that would be my first thought also. Seems Cart didn't follow my recommendations in the other thread like keeping the cpu at 100% load, 100% of the time. This is the most important thing to do next to covering everything with lots and lots of dielectric grease. Should be able to RMA if still under warranty though, Intel will just send out a replacement without checking the cpu.
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The thing is..the cpu was working fine the night before, it was when i turned the computer on the day after...it just wouldn't start...
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The thing is..the cpu was working fine the night before, it was when i turned the computer on the day after...it just wouldn't start...
Try leaving it out in open air for a day or two, maybe condensation built up under the heatspreader. When I removed the heatspreader from my A64 I noticed it wasn't sealed all the way around, which got me a little nervous. Maybe the P4 is the same?
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Sorry for your loss dude.

I hope Kakarot is right and your CPU gets a second wind
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That sucks BIGTIME, sorry for your loss, damn we sound like someone died in this thread...lol, you'll be back up and running again, at least your not at a total loss without a system to have access to things, could be worse, the whole thing could've gone up in flames.
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This is why overclocking is a bad idea.

This is why I NEVER overclock. I have seen many people overclocking their Pentiums and video cards, so they get a whole 1000 more benchmark test in the 3dMark, or 10 more FPS in this game. It's not a big deal, yeah 20 fps to 30 can be seen by the naked eye, but that tells me, Get a new Video card! I see people with there ultimate water cooling systems 6 hard drives in there system everything overclocked to the max. Water cooling pipes everywhere, (which give almost no more cooling then 10 degrees at max which is NOTHING in my eyes. I actually tested a theory which my friend and I tried. We dipped our WHOLE entire system (no floopy or cd-rom drivers), in Cooking oil. Since it is non-conductive everything worked fine and the fans made a nice bubble like air effect in the oil. Whils this is totally in the cooking oil, if there is a way you can keep the oil cold, this would probably be the ultimate cooling. Instead of wasting hundreds of dollars on over priced water cooling systems. Come on, $200 for 2 degrees less in MOST cases I have seen. Unless you can afford an Air conditioning unit hooked up to the pipes it is not worth it. BUT I say to myself, instead of wasting MONEY on overclocking cooling equipment, you mine as well by the real THING! A chip is made to do, what it does. It's like putting 1200 tons on a 1000 ton max bridge, yeah it may handle it, but not for long, and eventually collapse. I am really sorry to hear about your Pentium Cartman, at least you can get your anger out online, I would be pissed beyong hell if that happened to me. Now the new video cards that are coming out, or that are alread out (X800 XT, PRo and the Nvidia) If you want $450 - $500 U.S. dollars to go down the drain (that's a lot of money for most people), go ahead and over clock it, there will be NO point. I always took my friends advice. There is no point to overclocking, and now I am seeing he is correct. I am a computer obsessor but they ONLY reason I would by the water cooling is for show, and if I actully had the money to waste it on. Stop overclocking! If anyone flames me or quotes me, just do a senetence since it would be a waste of room to do my whole entire message :P I would like to hear your opinions also.

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with extreme overclocking these kind of risks are accepted especially with any kind of phase when condensation can happen (1300mhz overclock at -50c isnt a "normal overclock"). ive been overclocking (moderately) for 10 years and ive lost no hardware. relax, its a hobby we enjoy it.

As for your comments on watercooling, thats nonsense. temps under load even with a NON overclocked processor will help its life span. I dont mind people commenting on first hand experience, but this is how things spread, third hand knowledge from a friend of a friend. watercooling if you know what you are doing is safe. I doubt many beginners will attempt it anyway.
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I highly doubt it...because, there's a little dark spot between some of the socket pins...that look dangerousley close to burn marks....sooo im afraid it dead..
As i said earlier in the thread i propably will get a good hsf and stay with that for the time being....i'm considering the SP-94, you think that'll be a good choice?
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Does this mean that you fastest score still counts? Saying as the CPU is no more?


Seriously though mate I am sorry for your loss. I know how you feel. When I built my current rig, I installed everything and tried to fire it up - dead 3.0c. I was gutted.

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