fsb changing tool????

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 8, 2002, 08:44 PM

has anyone got a complete list of all cpu oc tools for use in windows, as i cannot oc in the bios
i tried cpu booster, softfsb & cpufsb there all either too old, out of date or don't wrk at all! i don't have the money
for a new mobo or cpu so can someone help?

UberLord · Sep 8, 2002, 08:47 PM

AFAIK the only way to change FSB is thought the BIOS

If you've got a Slot A mobo, checkout http://www.amdmb.com as they often have beta/hacked BIOSes floating around in their forums which unlock nice features. I got a nice 5% boost + a few features from a beta bios I found there for my EPoX 8K7A+

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 8, 2002, 09:03 PM

i have a p4. and u wouldn't happen to know where i could get hack bios's? for i845? (mines compaq i emailed them and asked them to put fsb settings in bios sofar no reply)...

UberLord · Sep 8, 2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ATiWillCrumble
i have a p4. and u wouldn't happen to know where i could get hack bios's? for i845? (mines compaq i emailed them and asked them to put fsb settings in bios sofar no reply)...

Got a motherboard make and model?

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 8, 2002, 09:19 PM

compaq intel 845.

digitalwanderer · Sep 8, 2002, 09:26 PM

Just keep your sonic screwdriver handy for all your tweaking needs!

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 8, 2002, 09:29 PM

does anyone know how to use softfsb? i've got the new beta & some plugins and i'm stumped.

~~JAV~~ · Sep 8, 2002, 11:26 PM

I use CPUCool on my bios locked Compaq board. It isn't Intel, it's Compaq that locked the bios & as far as I know you CANNOT use the AMI/Intel bios to get in. All these years & I haven't found anyone that has cracked the Compaq bios.

Mines an old i810e & CPUCool does have that board listed. The PLL is ICS. *IF* we can figure out your PLL #, we might have a chance.

You say softfsb has i845 plug-ins? I'll dl it & see if I can help. I used it on mine b4, but I preferred CPUCool & deleted sfsb.

One thing you need to know: it will change the FSB & that in turn will raise the PCI & AGP port mhz too. My on-board sound chip goes out above 10% (36.6mhz) oc.

Lemme look into softfsb & I'll be back, if you're still here.

JAV
GBA!

[COLOR=red]***EDIT***[/COLOR]

I got softfsb & now remember why I deleted it: it doesn't have the necessary PLL's or ANY of the i8xx boards.

Get CPUCool http://www.podien.de & I'll try to help you find the correct PLL for an i845. CPUCool just updated w/lotsa new PLL's.

HTH

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 9, 2002, 07:51 AM

hey. i didn't say i got 845 support for softfsb just a bunch of undocumented plugins and i thought mayby 1 is mine

i'll install cpu fsb.

Sep 9, 2002, 08:11 AM

@ JAV

Hey buddy have you tried flashing bios ??

A friend of mine about a moth ago called me up and asked if i know how to fix his problem.

He had 8 deskpro 4xx series and couldnt get better graphics card to be detected on those things.

well i went over and checked the hardware(looking for a jumper etc. on mobo) but no solution.
So i called up compaqs help desk here in greece and asked if there was anyway to
install other cards that were not on their compatibility lists.
The lady on the other side tried to avoid giving me solutions until i said that we had 8 of these and are gonna go to court if they dont help us( bullshit) so she said "well sir you can flash the bios of the mobo but at your own risk and also void the warranty"
So i told her that we had them passed the 3 years anyway and that they were useless if we couldnt upgrade.

Well to cut short this little story....we flashed the bios with a later version and guess what??....it worked !!
Now these machines have alot of more options in the bios (especially conserning graphics).
Plus we could install other non compaq approved ram too.

To flash bios you have to know the boards serial number(not model) as the bios versions are according to that.

good luck

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 9, 2002, 08:11 AM

$B9 $87 $7F $C7 $3F $00 $08 -this is my pll output values if thats anyhelp, and it already says
my pll stuff but thats probalby standard right? i have to find my one? i have the latest cpufsb now does it have compaq support?

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 9, 2002, 09:31 AM

so where would the boards serial no* be? and would this allow me to flash intel 845 bios's? cus i already tried that and it said your board is not a intel desktop board ahhhhhh, and question
when u got the serial wot then?

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 9, 2002, 01:32 PM

is anyone still reading this post? theres not compaq listed in cpufsb 2.2.6 wot version have u got?
i need help!!!! ahhhh i don't wanna buy a new pc! where do i find hacked bios's and more info????

~~JAV~~ · Sep 9, 2002, 10:43 PM

GreekRage,

I've flashed to a newer Compaq bios, but I haven't tried an AMI or AWARD bios on the board. When I eventually upgrade the mobo: I'm definately going to try! Nothing to lose then. What bios did you use? When your friend hits delete on boot, can he now get into bios settings?

I'm VERY interested in getting a bios I can 'tweek', as I'm sure many Compaq owners are.

Compaq tech is a joke! They don't even know what processors work on which of their own boards. BAH!

Ati,

I'm still here, but I'm in California & I think we're on different time schedules so we'll be missing each other in real time.

There is a utility @ PowerLeap http://www.powerleap.com/consumer/upgradefinder.htm Run that & write down all the info on the mobo & bios.

I'll go get CPUFSB & look it over. What is the model # of the Compaq? Presario ???

This will take a little research to get the correct PLL #. The good thing about CPUCool is that if we pick the wrong PLL & it locks up, you simply unplug the comp for ~30sec & upon reboot: you'll be back @ the stock PLL & try it again. If we can figure out the i845 PLL, I'll contact Podien & he can incorporate it into the next release.

I'll be back,

JAV
GBA!

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 10, 2002, 08:02 AM

i've been in contact with him and i'm waiting for a reply apart dam ntl's email server is down.
and to the question its a presario 5000 (5446EA).
yea the timezone thing forgot about that!

~~JAV~~ · Sep 10, 2002, 07:37 PM

Have you installed this ROM (bios) update from Compaq: http://www29.compaq.com/falco/sp_det...twareVer=15388

I went looking for system specs & your comp is listed as a Presario 5400 & model 5446EA. There aren't any specs for it or even a manual on-line.

As far as I know, Compaq uses ICS PLL. If your processor is a 100FSB, you might try the 9250-16B PLL & if it is a 133FSB, 9250-16-D may work. 200, 266, 400 or 533: I don't know. That's what I was looking @ Compaq for, specs.

If we knew the stock settings, it would be a process of elimination on the PLL's that don't support stock settings & then trial & error on the ones that do. Start @ 1 step above stock & if it takes >

I've messed up & tried the wrong PLL before. I got a 19,000mhz clock once

& the comp locked (duh!) Simply unplugged for 30sec & upon reboot: all was back to stock.

HTH & I would like to know which PLL you get to work. If I can assist, lemme know.

JAV
GBA!

ATiWillCrumble · Sep 11, 2002, 07:35 AM

i flashed using that bios no new features. and my fsb is 400. still no info from podien.

~~Asuka~~ · Sep 14, 2002, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord

Ummm... just FYI, you're missing the umlaut on the U, that should be ÜberLord (the word "uber" doesn't exist). Hold Alt and type 0220 on the numeric keypad to get a capital Ü on an US keyboard.

Quote:

AFAIK the only way to change FSB is thought the BIOS

If you've got a Slot A mobo, checkout http://www.amdmb.com as they often have beta/hacked BIOSes floating around in their forums which unlock nice features. I got a nice 5% boost + a few features from a beta bios I found there for my EPoX 8K7A+

I just got a CoolerMaster Heat Pipe HHC-001 for my new AMD Athlon XP 2000+ and wanted to kick some ass with some decent oc'ing, but the Bios on my mainboard (Elitegroup K7VTA3 3.1 - runs fine) isn't very oc-friendly... any idea where I could find some better Bios for it? The above site doesn't have any.

Sep 8, 2002, 08:44 PM	#1
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Sep 8, 2002, 08:47 PM	#2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	AFAIK the only way to change FSB is thought the BIOS If you've got a Slot A mobo, checkout http://www.amdmb.com as they often have beta/hacked BIOSes floating around in their forums which unlock nice features. I got a nice 5% boost + a few features from a beta bios I found there for my EPoX 8K7A+ __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 8, 2002, 09:03 PM	Thread Starter #3
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	i have a p4. and u wouldn't happen to know where i could get hack bios's? for i845? (mines compaq i emailed them and asked them to put fsb settings in bios sofar no reply)... __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 8, 2002, 09:19 PM	Thread Starter #5
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	compaq intel 845. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 8, 2002, 09:26 PM	#6
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Pfffft! Screw that crap! Just keep your sonic screwdriver handy for all your tweaking needs! __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Sep 8, 2002, 09:29 PM	Thread Starter #7
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	does anyone know how to use softfsb? i've got the new beta & some plugins and i'm stumped. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 8, 2002, 11:26 PM	#8
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	I use CPUCool on my bios locked Compaq board. It isn't Intel, it's Compaq that locked the bios & as far as I know you CANNOT use the AMI/Intel bios to get in. All these years & I haven't found anyone that has cracked the Compaq bios. Mines an old i810e & CPUCool does have that board listed. The PLL is ICS. IF we can figure out your PLL #, we might have a chance. You say softfsb has i845 plug-ins? I'll dl it & see if I can help. I used it on mine b4, but I preferred CPUCool & deleted sfsb. One thing you need to know: it will change the FSB & that in turn will raise the PCI & AGP port mhz too. My on-board sound chip goes out above 10% (36.6mhz) oc. Lemme look into softfsb & I'll be back, if you're still here. JAV GBA! [COLOR=red]*EDIT*[/COLOR] I got softfsb & now remember why I deleted it: it doesn't have the necessary PLL's or ANY of the i8xx boards. Get CPUCool http://www.podien.de & I'll try to help you find the correct PLL for an i845. CPUCool just updated w/lotsa new PLL's. HTH

Sep 9, 2002, 07:51 AM	Thread Starter #9
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	hey. i didn't say i got 845 support for softfsb just a bunch of undocumented plugins and i thought mayby 1 is mine i'll install cpu fsb. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 9, 2002, 08:11 AM	#10
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	@ JAV Hey buddy have you tried flashing bios ?? A friend of mine about a moth ago called me up and asked if i know how to fix his problem. He had 8 deskpro 4xx series and couldnt get better graphics card to be detected on those things. well i went over and checked the hardware(looking for a jumper etc. on mobo) but no solution. So i called up compaqs help desk here in greece and asked if there was anyway to install other cards that were not on their compatibility lists. The lady on the other side tried to avoid giving me solutions until i said that we had 8 of these and are gonna go to court if they dont help us( bullshit) so she said "well sir you can flash the bios of the mobo but at your own risk and also void the warranty" So i told her that we had them passed the 3 years anyway and that they were useless if we couldnt upgrade. Well to cut short this little story....we flashed the bios with a later version and guess what??....it worked !! Now these machines have alot of more options in the bios (especially conserning graphics). Plus we could install other non compaq approved ram too. To flash bios you have to know the boards serial number(not model) as the bios versions are according to that. good luck

Sep 9, 2002, 08:11 AM	Thread Starter #11
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	$B9 $87 $7F $C7 $3F $00 $08 -this is my pll output values if thats anyhelp, and it already says my pll stuff but thats probalby standard right? i have to find my one? i have the latest cpufsb now does it have compaq support? __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 9, 2002, 09:31 AM	Thread Starter #12
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	so where would the boards serial no* be? and would this allow me to flash intel 845 bios's? cus i already tried that and it said your board is not a intel desktop board ahhhhhh, and question when u got the serial wot then? __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 9, 2002, 01:32 PM	Thread Starter #13
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	is anyone still reading this post? theres not compaq listed in cpufsb 2.2.6 wot version have u got? i need help!!!! ahhhh i don't wanna buy a new pc! where do i find hacked bios's and more info???? __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 9, 2002, 10:43 PM	#14
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	GreekRage, I've flashed to a newer Compaq bios, but I haven't tried an AMI or AWARD bios on the board. When I eventually upgrade the mobo: I'm definately going to try! Nothing to lose then. What bios did you use? When your friend hits delete on boot, can he now get into bios settings? I'm VERY interested in getting a bios I can 'tweek', as I'm sure many Compaq owners are. Compaq tech is a joke! They don't even know what processors work on which of their own boards. BAH! Ati, I'm still here, but I'm in California & I think we're on different time schedules so we'll be missing each other in real time. There is a utility @ PowerLeap http://www.powerleap.com/consumer/upgradefinder.htm Run that & write down all the info on the mobo & bios. I'll go get CPUFSB & look it over. What is the model # of the Compaq? Presario ??? This will take a little research to get the correct PLL #. The good thing about CPUCool is that if we pick the wrong PLL & it locks up, you simply unplug the comp for ~30sec & upon reboot: you'll be back @ the stock PLL & try it again. If we can figure out the i845 PLL, I'll contact Podien & he can incorporate it into the next release. I'll be back, JAV GBA!

Sep 10, 2002, 08:02 AM	Thread Starter #15
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	i've been in contact with him and i'm waiting for a reply apart dam ntl's email server is down. and to the question its a presario 5000 (5446EA). yea the timezone thing forgot about that! __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Sep 10, 2002, 07:37 PM	#16
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	Have you installed this ROM (bios) update from Compaq: http://www29.compaq.com/falco/sp_det...twareVer=15388 I went looking for system specs & your comp is listed as a Presario 5400 & model 5446EA. There aren't any specs for it or even a manual on-line. As far as I know, Compaq uses ICS PLL. If your processor is a 100FSB, you might try the 9250-16B PLL & if it is a 133FSB, 9250-16-D may work. 200, 266, 400 or 533: I don't know. That's what I was looking @ Compaq for, specs. If we knew the stock settings, it would be a process of elimination on the PLL's that don't support stock settings & then trial & error on the ones that do. Start @ 1 step above stock & if it takes > I've messed up & tried the wrong PLL before. I got a 19,000mhz clock once & the comp locked (duh!) Simply unplugged for 30sec & upon reboot: all was back to stock. HTH & I would like to know which PLL you get to work. If I can assist, lemme know. JAV GBA!

Sep 11, 2002, 07:35 AM	Thread Starter #17
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	i flashed using that bios no new features. and my fsb is 400. still no info from podien. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d