What should I do?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 26, 2004, 08:12 PM

Planning on upgradeing.. money is limited

mkk · Aug 26, 2004, 08:21 PM

Overclock that Barton 2500+ as close to the 3200+ level as it can get. It's not really worthwile to buy any AthlonXP more expensive than a Barton 2500+ anyway. Then save up for an Athlon64 next year or so, as it will still be the thing to get by then.

Bart1987 · Aug 26, 2004, 08:31 PM

I would say the same. Most 2500+ can get 3200+ speeds easily. And it's not a big upgrade. Better wait and buy a A64 later.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 26, 2004, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mkk

Overclock that Barton 2500+ as close to the 3200+ level as it can get. It's not really worthwile to buy any AthlonXP more expensive than a Barton 2500+ anyway. Then save up for an Athlon64 next year or so, as it will still be the thing to get by then.

Well getting close is not an issue...

I'd been running it at 2800+ (12.5x166@1.65v) and my previous monbo wouldn't do 200 fsb , i've got a much newer mother board now and can o/c alot better..

As I type this it's doing 3200+ (11x200@1.75) fine and it appears stable just ran the hl2 cs sourse bechmark no gains (smacks the person that said it cpu dependant becouse it is not!) my pc mark 2002 scores are like 6500 as to prevously sub 5500....

But untill i update my ram i'm running a stick of 512, kingston, cas 2.5, timeings 3-3-7 pc 2700 (stock) that of course hurt my scores

I originally bought the cpu, and slk 800U cooler with intent to o/c it to 3200+ but over time my willing ness to over clock has easied. I feel more confortable with smaller o/c's

1.83@2.2ghz 370mhz is a sizeable o/c compaired to what i've done in the past.... am I crazy to worry?

I think it's much cheaper just to o/c but if i can get a good price for this chip I can buy 3200+'s for alot less then you'd think ($108) then o/c it to 3200+/2.4 ghz ... I won't be upgrading to high amd 64 or a high end p4 till some time Q1-Q2 2005 so this has to last me....

Considering when i get my new ram i'm likely to have my x800xt PE in hand

I wanna make sure i'm getting the full effect

Zardon · Aug 26, 2004, 08:51 PM

save the money and get another stick of ram bringing you to 1 gig.

mkk · Aug 26, 2004, 08:52 PM

You have a really good cooler and didn't have to bump the voltage too much, so it's safe. I'm also more for "reasonable" overclocking nowadays, and stability is always king. After getting that extra RAM it should be a nice enough system for gaming well into 2005.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 26, 2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkk

You have a really good cooler and didn't have to bump the voltage too much, so it's safe. I'm also more for "reasonable" overclocking nowadays, and stability is always king. After getting that extra RAM it should be a nice enough system for gaming well into 2005.

well i plan to sell my ram and pic up one of these
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-835&depa=0
for now... and another stick later

it stupid to run pc 2700 when i can use 3200 and the timeing on this ram i have now insnt the best either, not to mention it best to sync the buss and memory speed...

GutterPunk · Aug 26, 2004, 09:20 PM

good rams i have the platinums they are great... i love OCZ

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 26, 2004, 10:26 PM

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Why is it 199.2 fsb

applebyk · Aug 26, 2004, 10:35 PM

What about the best option: Sell your 2500+ and get a mobile.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 26, 2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by applebyk

What about the best option: Sell your 2500+ and get a mobile.

mobiles don't work in all boards....

Zardon · Aug 26, 2004, 11:29 PM

There is absolutely no point in selling your CPU to get another 32 bit barton processor neon. granted you might get slightly higher overclocks or a few mhz more top figures but the gains will be minimum. If you game a lot which I know you do, the GFX is most important. Its best keeping your money until you can afford the 64 bit changeover. thats my view on it anyway then when the 64 bit windows hits the shelves, put that money you saved with the money you will get from selling your current hardware and make the switch.

drakesteakn · Aug 27, 2004, 12:21 AM

i would start saving money and get A64 setup.

GutterPunk · Aug 27, 2004, 02:27 AM

yeah save for a nice 64bit pentium processor

drakesteakn · Aug 27, 2004, 02:42 AM

not a pentium, a AMD. intel processors are crap

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Originally Posted by GutterPunk

yeah save for a nice 64bit pentium processor

GutterPunk · Aug 27, 2004, 03:16 AM

haha... it was a joke but yeah 64bit ur preference... i see intel overtaking amd again soon... but i love the overclockablity 1ghz on my p4 so yeah my personal preference

Zardon · Aug 27, 2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by drakesteakn

not a pentium, a AMD. intel processors are crap

sighs. is this really worth posting?. I could hit you with a few performance links from my extreme edition system but I wouldnt want to embarass you

It still amazes me people hate one maker or another, when we are right now in one of the best situations for buyers ive ever seen, we have a wealth of CPUs from both makers which are incredible performers.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 27, 2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

sighs. is this really worth posting?. I could hit you with a few performance links from my extreme edition system but I wouldnt want to embarass you

It still amazes me people hate one maker or another, when we are right now in one of the best situations for buyers ive ever seen, we have a wealth of CPUs from both makers which are incredible performers.

I'd like to see via come up with a performer .... with in thier cyrix line

~~HawK~~ · Aug 27, 2004, 10:07 PM

Went from a 2400XP (266fsb) to a 3200XP barton (400fsb), although it made my rig somewhat faster, it doesn't really have shown that much effect..
Today I got a 9800Pro to replace the 9700(non pro) now that shows

So keep your 2500 for awhile until you can do the 64bit step i'd say
and extra Ram is alway's nice, although you could keep the money safe somewhere and wait until the 64bit boards with DDR2 and buy that DD2Ram would be an option IMM

Aug 26, 2004, 08:12 PM	#1
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Aug 26, 2004, 10:26 PM	Thread Starter #9
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	.... .... Why is it 199.2 fsb __________________

Aug 26, 2004, 10:35 PM	#10
applebyk DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	What about the best option: Sell your 2500+ and get a mobile. __________________ Antec Sonata + 380S Truepower 2500+ @ 1.3v , Volcano 12 + stealth NF7-S rev.2 w/ iceberq copper 9600XT + zalman NBsink @ 550/330 Raid 0 120GB Sata hard drives HyperX 3500 @ 2700, 2-2-2-6

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drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 57	i would start saving money and get A64 setup. __________________

Aug 26, 2004, 08:21 PM	#2
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,383 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	Overclock that Barton 2500+ as close to the 3200+ level as it can get. It's not really worthwile to buy any AthlonXP more expensive than a Barton 2500+ anyway. Then save up for an Athlon64 next year or so, as it will still be the thing to get by then.

Aug 26, 2004, 08:31 PM	#3
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	I would say the same. Most 2500+ can get 3200+ speeds easily. And it's not a big upgrade. Better wait and buy a A64 later.

Aug 26, 2004, 08:51 PM	#5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	save the money and get another stick of ram bringing you to 1 gig.

Aug 26, 2004, 08:52 PM	#6
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,383 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	You have a really good cooler and didn't have to bump the voltage too much, so it's safe. I'm also more for "reasonable" overclocking nowadays, and stability is always king. After getting that extra RAM it should be a nice enough system for gaming well into 2005.

Aug 26, 2004, 11:29 PM	#12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	There is absolutely no point in selling your CPU to get another 32 bit barton processor neon. granted you might get slightly higher overclocks or a few mhz more top figures but the gains will be minimum. If you game a lot which I know you do, the GFX is most important. Its best keeping your money until you can afford the 64 bit changeover. thats my view on it anyway then when the 64 bit windows hits the shelves, put that money you saved with the money you will get from selling your current hardware and make the switch.

Aug 27, 2004, 02:27 AM	#14
GutterPunk I = Greatest Dood Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,949 Rep Power: 70	yeah save for a nice 64bit pentium processor __________________ Rock On \m/ Thank you Mousey for the Sig! --------------- Intel Core2Duo E6660 (3.4GHZ) ~ Tuniq Tower 120 ~ Enermax Galaxy 1000W ~ Corsair Dominator @ 1090MHZ 5-5-5-15 (OCZ XTC Modded Cooler)~ EVGA 8800GTX W/ HR-03 Plus 120MM ~ Asus DVD-RW LiteScribe ~ LG DVD-RW ~ Corsair Voyager 2GB ReadyBoost Drive ~ Vantec Nexus Fan Controller ~ ThermalTake Armor 25CM fan ~ Personal Finance Blog: Dent Your Debt

Aug 27, 2004, 03:16 AM	#16
GutterPunk I = Greatest Dood Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,949 Rep Power: 70	haha... it was a joke but yeah 64bit ur preference... i see intel overtaking amd again soon... but i love the overclockablity 1ghz on my p4 so yeah my personal preference __________________ Rock On \m/ Thank you Mousey for the Sig! --------------- Intel Core2Duo E6660 (3.4GHZ) ~ Tuniq Tower 120 ~ Enermax Galaxy 1000W ~ Corsair Dominator @ 1090MHZ 5-5-5-15 (OCZ XTC Modded Cooler)~ EVGA 8800GTX W/ HR-03 Plus 120MM ~ Asus DVD-RW LiteScribe ~ LG DVD-RW ~ Corsair Voyager 2GB ReadyBoost Drive ~ Vantec Nexus Fan Controller ~ ThermalTake Armor 25CM fan ~ Personal Finance Blog: Dent Your Debt

Aug 27, 2004, 10:07 PM	#19
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Went from a 2400XP (266fsb) to a 3200XP barton (400fsb), although it made my rig somewhat faster, it doesn't really have shown that much effect.. Today I got a 9800Pro to replace the 9700(non pro) now that shows So keep your 2500 for awhile until you can do the 64bit step i'd say and extra Ram is alway's nice, although you could keep the money safe somewhere and wait until the 64bit boards with DDR2 and buy that DD2Ram would be an option IMM