A64 turbo mode?

drakesteakn · Sep 6, 2004, 04:24 AM

i have been testing my A64 3200+ clawhammer overclocks. when i use turbo mode in the bios i get about 3C difference in temps. in normal mode the temp is 38C. when in turbo mode my temps are 41C. what causes the temp to change when in turbo mode? what is being used more in turbo mode than normal mode?

Specs:
A64 1MB clawhammer CO stepping
MSI K8Y neo FSR
1GB 2x512 samsung DDR400
2 WD 36.7GB raptors RAID 0
MSI mx 400 32MB
Antec 550w true PSU

Dark Lord · Sep 6, 2004, 04:41 AM

better question is what is turbo mode. ive never even heard of it, and i use an A64 3200+ Claw. and an msi k8t neo fis2r....

drakesteakn · Sep 6, 2004, 04:44 AM

i don't know what is does or what it is either. its in the advanced chipset features in BIOS.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 6, 2004, 07:14 AM

I always thought it was more aggressive use of memory, myself. but I could certainly be wrong.

how much difference are you seeing from it in benchmarks? (assuming you don't notice a difference in real life)

drakesteakn · Sep 6, 2004, 03:52 PM

well i just ran 3dmark01SE and i got a increase of about 80 marks. i see a difference in boot times and loading of programs.

Geminiwave · Sep 6, 2004, 08:57 PM

Basically with the A64, its suppose to shut down parts that its not using and activate them when they are needed. Its a great system cause it keeps the temps down and yadda yadda...unfortunatly theres a bit of lag when those parts activate. Now supposedly everyone is saying that it isnt implemented but I've seen it at work before in laptops and desktops alike(mostly on laptops though). Basically turbo mode doesnt allow anything to shut off. It keeps the entire processor running.

drakesteakn · Sep 6, 2004, 10:48 PM

thanx Geminiwave for the info. thats why the processor gets hotter.

Geminiwave · Sep 7, 2004, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drakesteakn

thanx Geminiwave for the info. thats why the processor gets hotter.

Thats simply from what I remember. I could very well be wrong. I'm pretty sure thats the case though.

anyone else know?

Dark Lord · Sep 7, 2004, 08:35 AM

that sounds like what the cool and quiet mode is for, it underclocks the cpu and turns off alot of features when there not needed. when the cpu's completly idle, it underclocks its self to like 800mghz, it runs alot cooler and is supposed to last alot longer. i think the turbo is for something else other then keeping everything running on cpu.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 7, 2004, 09:39 PM

yeah, that sounds like a description of Cool n Quiet, except that Cool n Quiet does not "turn off features", it only uses a reduced voltage and clockspeed multiplier when the CPU is not above a certain % usage (80% or something, not sure).

drake, can you download CPU-Z and run it both with Turbo and without for me?
write down the core speed, HTT, votlage, and on the Memory tab, the speed and timings, in both cases.
please let me know, thanks.

Nacht · Sep 7, 2004, 09:46 PM

This is on my system too, but I leave it disabled because im waiting for new memory (mine now sucks too much to handle it...puts alot of stress on it)

drakesteakn · Sep 7, 2004, 11:55 PM

i have mine disabled for now too, i was just trying to figure out what it was and how it worked.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 8, 2004, 03:47 AM

did you check it with CPU-Z yet?
when I set my Performance Mode option in BIOS to Turbo, these are the differences I see:

Mode ..... Auto ..... Turbo

voltage .. 1.50v .... 1.55v
speed .... 2000 ..... 2052
HTT ...... 200 ...... 228
multi. ... 10 ....... 9

that's on my ASUS K8V with A64-3000
and would definitely cause a temp increase.
I wonder if your motherboard does the same thing?

drakesteakn · Sep 8, 2004, 05:42 PM

well right now i'm reinstalling everything i will check for u.

Sep 6, 2004, 04:24 AM	#1
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	A64 turbo mode? i have been testing my A64 3200+ clawhammer overclocks. when i use turbo mode in the bios i get about 3C difference in temps. in normal mode the temp is 38C. when in turbo mode my temps are 41C. what causes the temp to change when in turbo mode? what is being used more in turbo mode than normal mode? Specs: A64 1MB clawhammer CO stepping MSI K8Y neo FSR 1GB 2x512 samsung DDR400 2 WD 36.7GB raptors RAID 0 MSI mx 400 32MB Antec 550w true PSU __________________

Sep 6, 2004, 04:44 AM	Thread Starter #3
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	i don't know what is does or what it is either. its in the advanced chipset features in BIOS. __________________

Sep 6, 2004, 07:14 AM	#4
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I always thought it was more aggressive use of memory, myself. but I could certainly be wrong. how much difference are you seeing from it in benchmarks? (assuming you don't notice a difference in real life) __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Sep 6, 2004, 03:52 PM	Thread Starter #5
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	well i just ran 3dmark01SE and i got a increase of about 80 marks. i see a difference in boot times and loading of programs. __________________

Sep 6, 2004, 08:57 PM	#6
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Basically with the A64, its suppose to shut down parts that its not using and activate them when they are needed. Its a great system cause it keeps the temps down and yadda yadda...unfortunatly theres a bit of lag when those parts activate. Now supposedly everyone is saying that it isnt implemented but I've seen it at work before in laptops and desktops alike(mostly on laptops though). Basically turbo mode doesnt allow anything to shut off. It keeps the entire processor running. __________________

Sep 6, 2004, 04:41 AM	#2
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	better question is what is turbo mode. ive never even heard of it, and i use an A64 3200+ Claw. and an msi k8t neo fis2r....

Sep 6, 2004, 10:48 PM	Thread Starter #7
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	thanx Geminiwave for the info. thats why the processor gets hotter. __________________

Sep 7, 2004, 08:35 AM	#9
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	that sounds like what the cool and quiet mode is for, it underclocks the cpu and turns off alot of features when there not needed. when the cpu's completly idle, it underclocks its self to like 800mghz, it runs alot cooler and is supposed to last alot longer. i think the turbo is for something else other then keeping everything running on cpu.

Sep 7, 2004, 09:39 PM	#10
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	yeah, that sounds like a description of Cool n Quiet, except that Cool n Quiet does not "turn off features", it only uses a reduced voltage and clockspeed multiplier when the CPU is not above a certain % usage (80% or something, not sure). drake, can you download CPU-Z and run it both with Turbo and without for me? write down the core speed, HTT, votlage, and on the Memory tab, the speed and timings, in both cases. please let me know, thanks. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Sep 7, 2004, 09:46 PM	#11
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	This is on my system too, but I leave it disabled because im waiting for new memory (mine now sucks too much to handle it...puts alot of stress on it)

Sep 7, 2004, 11:55 PM	Thread Starter #12
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	i have mine disabled for now too, i was just trying to figure out what it was and how it worked. __________________

Sep 8, 2004, 03:47 AM	#13
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	did you check it with CPU-Z yet? when I set my Performance Mode option in BIOS to Turbo, these are the differences I see: Mode ..... Auto ..... Turbo voltage .. 1.50v .... 1.55v speed .... 2000 ..... 2052 HTT ...... 200 ...... 228 multi. ... 10 ....... 9 that's on my ASUS K8V with A64-3000 and would definitely cause a temp increase. I wonder if your motherboard does the same thing? __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Sep 8, 2004, 05:42 PM	Thread Starter #14
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	well right now i'm reinstalling everything i will check for u. __________________