Need help from some prof.

Hilco · Sep 22, 2004, 01:25 PM

i have a 2200+ amd pro. and i wonna oc it, a lil bit

i runs at 266fsb now, and my mobo also can handle 333fsb. Can I change the fsb to 333 to overclock my pro. without overclokcing the agp/pci bus? What would you do with a 2200+ it runs no stock and got tempratures about 40, 45 when playing games, pls help me a bit

Asmoday · Sep 22, 2004, 01:40 PM

If you have a kt333 mobo that wouldn't be a problem, but if you have the old kt266 i'm not sure if they have the divider for it, if you stated your full system specs it would help in our quest to help you out

Hilco · Sep 22, 2004, 05:06 PM

Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows XP

DirectX Version9.0c

Mobo ManufacturerASUSTeK Computer INC.

Mobo ModelA7V8X-X (KT400 fsb 300 sup.)

AGP Rates (Current/Available)8x / 4x, 8x

CPUAMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1791 MHz

FSB133 MHz

Memory512 MB

ChoGGi · Sep 22, 2004, 05:47 PM

i think the 2200 is only a 266 fsb cpu so im not sure what'll happen if you set it to 333 (guessing worse is no post and you'll have to reset your cmos)

Hilco · Sep 22, 2004, 07:19 PM

mmm, i dont think there is another option for overcloking on this mobo, if i set it on 333 i also need more voltage?

pr0digal jenius · Sep 22, 2004, 09:28 PM

i think choggi is right...you're kinda screwed

you might be able to adjust FSB/Multipliers tho

Geminiwave · Sep 22, 2004, 11:51 PM

you can adjust the FSB by 1mhz at a time. Ive seen those boards OCed before.

btw your 2200+ is a piece of...um...a piece of work.

they arent the best OCers. However they COULD have an unlocked multiplier, so you could lower the multi and raise the FSB to 333 and have a VERY nice system speed.

try it out and let us know.

Hilco · Sep 23, 2004, 07:23 AM

ok i will see if it is unlocked and reply as soon as possible

G@MeBoY · Sep 23, 2004, 04:10 PM

first of all, xp2200 that I have tryed all went on 200fsb with 1.8V max. Second: You can't lock AGP/PCI speed on VIA kt400 chipset. Third: raise voltage to 1.75V for CPU and set 166fsb (333ddr) and see if it works, if it does, test it a litle bit, if everithing works fine (no crashes etc.) then go to BIOS again and lower the CPU voltage a bit (ie 1.7V) then test again...FSB 166 (333ddr) is the limit for your mobo when it comes to synchronious CPU/MEM fsb.

Hilco · Sep 23, 2004, 05:11 PM

ok thank you i will try it soon as possible if i have some time, thx again

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Sep 23, 2004, 05:15 PM

just increase FSB by 5mhz (BIOS recommended or 3rd party software)
get prime95 to test if the system is stable. if you have blue screen means you gotta increase the vcore (try to increase by 0.25v each) until you will get the highest fsb. (higher fsb/vcore = higher cpu temps so watch the temps while you doing it)
you also may need 333mhz DDR or higher (if you have then no prob) if you dont have it try to increase the DDR voltage.

Vcore = CPU O/C fuel
Vdimm = DIM O/C fuel
DDR must to equal FSBx2

p.s.
VIA sucks! you need nForce2

Geminiwave · Sep 23, 2004, 05:27 PM

Via isnt the worst.

nforce 2 is just faster

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Sep 23, 2004, 05:33 PM

VIA kt333-400 models has bad AGP compatibility (very unstable) horrible mem bandwidth and lame features/performance
and thats i can tell you from my experience (i still have many VIA chipset based mobos in my closet)

Hilco · Sep 23, 2004, 09:25 PM

lol, i dont have money thats the problem

, i have ddr400

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Sep 23, 2004, 11:41 PM

p.s.

"i have a 2200+ amd pro"

there is no cpu named amd pro, the only products named under pro names used by ECS and others.. these are durons you better read my article:
http://www.newgenerationorder.org/fraud.html and make sure you dont have any cpu like this one.

Geminiwave · Sep 24, 2004, 01:48 AM

actually regeneration, some websites sell the AMD chips OEM and call them PRO. that could be where the confusion is.

actually I really hope thats the deal because if you got one of those durons... *shudder*

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REGENERAT1ON

p.s.

"i have a 2200+ amd pro"

there is no cpu named amd pro, the only products named under pro names used by ECS and others.. these are durons you better read my article:
http://www.newgenerationorder.org/fraud.html and make sure you dont have any cpu like this one.

lil dumb of me, i meant AMD 2200+ (pro)sessor

ChoGGi · Sep 24, 2004, 12:12 PM

oooh oooh i can help you with that one (not that you ever asked for help)

going by wikipedia,
microprocessor (abbreviated as µP or uP)

of course that'll just confuse everyone so switch to using cpu and you should be fine

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 02:50 PM

ok, np. I clocked it now on fsb 333, what makes it a 2800+ it looks stable right now at 1.8 volt, 1.75 get crashes, also can i get then 1.8? or do i damage the cpu then. Temprature are ok, 46 degrees

ChoGGi · Sep 24, 2004, 03:26 PM

look at it this way oc'ing will make your cpu die quicker, but if you plan to upgrade within the next decade then i think your gonna be alright (i could be wrong if someone wants to add to this). a better idea is search around google with your cpu model/different voltages and see what other people have said.
is that 46 idle or load?

by the way good morning

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 03:29 PM

idle load is 55

ChoGGi · Sep 24, 2004, 03:37 PM

55 is a bit warm but nothing killer

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 03:41 PM

ehhh, mine cpu is unlocked

and now i have 333fsb *12. = 2800+ on 1.7 volt.
I think i gonna make it a 2600+ but i runt now verry stable, thx guys, i get the feeling already

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 03:54 PM

166*11.5 --> 1.9ghz, is also 2800+ on 1.7 volt, runs smooth now, thx. I leave it on this setting

Geminiwave · Sep 24, 2004, 07:02 PM

no its not. you need 2.08ghz to be a 2800+

its 166*12.5=2.075ghz(but actually it shows up as 2.088ghz)

Hilco · Sep 24, 2004, 07:15 PM

i know, also 1.9 is 2800, and also 2.19 ghz is a 2800, lil weird:P just running on 1.9ghz then

BWX · Sep 24, 2004, 07:36 PM

My AMD xp1800+ runs up to 2300mhz @ 1.6v (probably faster with water)
It matters if it is a Tbred "B" or not and what the default voltage is too.

Geminiwave · Sep 24, 2004, 08:19 PM

tbred B's are the shit man. I love em

Hilco · Sep 28, 2004, 02:13 PM

of i buy a kt600 or some mb with fsb400 support, will it be faster then fsb333?

examplee

12.5*166 --> 2075
10.5*200 --> 2100

Hilco · Sep 28, 2004, 02:18 PM

of i buy a kt600 or some mb with fsb400 support, will it be faster then fsb333?

examplee

12.5*166 --> 2075
10.5*200 --> 2100

Sep 22, 2004, 01:25 PM	#1
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Need help from some prof. i have a 2200+ amd pro. and i wonna oc it, a lil bit i runs at 266fsb now, and my mobo also can handle 333fsb. Can I change the fsb to 333 to overclock my pro. without overclokcing the agp/pci bus? What would you do with a 2200+ it runs no stock and got tempratures about 40, 45 when playing games, pls help me a bit __________________

Sep 22, 2004, 01:40 PM	#2
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	If you have a kt333 mobo that wouldn't be a problem, but if you have the old kt266 i'm not sure if they have the divider for it, if you stated your full system specs it would help in our quest to help you out __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Sep 22, 2004, 05:06 PM	Thread Starter #3
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows XPDirectX Version9.0cMobo ManufacturerASUSTeK Computer INC.Mobo ModelA7V8X-X (KT400 fsb 300 sup.)AGP Rates (Current/Available)8x / 4x, 8xCPUAMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1791 MHzFSB133 MHz Memory512 MB __________________

Sep 22, 2004, 07:19 PM	Thread Starter #5
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	mmm, i dont think there is another option for overcloking on this mobo, if i set it on 333 i also need more voltage? __________________

Sep 22, 2004, 11:51 PM	#7
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	you can adjust the FSB by 1mhz at a time. Ive seen those boards OCed before. btw your 2200+ is a piece of...um...a piece of work. they arent the best OCers. However they COULD have an unlocked multiplier, so you could lower the multi and raise the FSB to 333 and have a VERY nice system speed. try it out and let us know. __________________

Sep 22, 2004, 05:47 PM	#4
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	i think the 2200 is only a 266 fsb cpu so im not sure what'll happen if you set it to 333 (guessing worse is no post and you'll have to reset your cmos)

Sep 22, 2004, 09:28 PM	#6
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	i think choggi is right...you're kinda screwed you might be able to adjust FSB/Multipliers tho

Sep 23, 2004, 07:23 AM	Thread Starter #8
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	ok i will see if it is unlocked and reply as soon as possible __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 04:10 PM	#9
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	first of all, xp2200 that I have tryed all went on 200fsb with 1.8V max. Second: You can't lock AGP/PCI speed on VIA kt400 chipset. Third: raise voltage to 1.75V for CPU and set 166fsb (333ddr) and see if it works, if it does, test it a litle bit, if everithing works fine (no crashes etc.) then go to BIOS again and lower the CPU voltage a bit (ie 1.7V) then test again...FSB 166 (333ddr) is the limit for your mobo when it comes to synchronious CPU/MEM fsb. __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Sep 23, 2004, 05:11 PM	Thread Starter #10
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	ok thank you i will try it soon as possible if i have some time, thx again __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 05:15 PM	#11
~~REGENERAT1ON~~ NGO Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 409 Rep Power: 0	just increase FSB by 5mhz (BIOS recommended or 3rd party software) get prime95 to test if the system is stable. if you have blue screen means you gotta increase the vcore (try to increase by 0.25v each) until you will get the highest fsb. (higher fsb/vcore = higher cpu temps so watch the temps while you doing it) you also may need 333mhz DDR or higher (if you have then no prob) if you dont have it try to increase the DDR voltage. Vcore = CPU O/C fuel Vdimm = DIM O/C fuel DDR must to equal FSBx2 p.s. VIA sucks! you need nForce2

Sep 23, 2004, 05:27 PM	#12
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Via isnt the worst. nforce 2 is just faster __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 05:33 PM	#13
~~REGENERAT1ON~~ NGO Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 409 Rep Power: 0	VIA kt333-400 models has bad AGP compatibility (very unstable) horrible mem bandwidth and lame features/performance and thats i can tell you from my experience (i still have many VIA chipset based mobos in my closet)

Sep 23, 2004, 09:25 PM	Thread Starter #14
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	lol, i dont have money thats the problem , i have ddr400 __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 11:41 PM	#15
~~REGENERAT1ON~~ NGO Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 409 Rep Power: 0	p.s. "i have a 2200+ amd pro" there is no cpu named amd pro, the only products named under pro names used by ECS and others.. these are durons you better read my article: http://www.newgenerationorder.org/fraud.html and make sure you dont have any cpu like this one.

Sep 24, 2004, 01:48 AM	#16
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	actually regeneration, some websites sell the AMD chips OEM and call them PRO. that could be where the confusion is. actually I really hope thats the deal because if you got one of those durons... shudder __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 12:12 PM	#18
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	oooh oooh i can help you with that one (not that you ever asked for help) going by wikipedia, microprocessor (abbreviated as µP or uP) of course that'll just confuse everyone so switch to using cpu and you should be fine

Sep 24, 2004, 02:50 PM	Thread Starter #19
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	ok, np. I clocked it now on fsb 333, what makes it a 2800+ it looks stable right now at 1.8 volt, 1.75 get crashes, also can i get then 1.8? or do i damage the cpu then. Temprature are ok, 46 degrees __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 03:26 PM	#20
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	look at it this way oc'ing will make your cpu die quicker, but if you plan to upgrade within the next decade then i think your gonna be alright (i could be wrong if someone wants to add to this). a better idea is search around google with your cpu model/different voltages and see what other people have said. is that 46 idle or load? by the way good morning

Sep 24, 2004, 03:29 PM	Thread Starter #21
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	idle load is 55 __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 03:37 PM	#22
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	55 is a bit warm but nothing killer

Sep 24, 2004, 03:41 PM	Thread Starter #23
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	ehhh, mine cpu is unlocked and now i have 333fsb *12. = 2800+ on 1.7 volt. I think i gonna make it a 2600+ but i runt now verry stable, thx guys, i get the feeling already __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 03:54 PM	Thread Starter #24
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	166*11.5 --> 1.9ghz, is also 2800+ on 1.7 volt, runs smooth now, thx. I leave it on this setting __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 07:02 PM	#25
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	no its not. you need 2.08ghz to be a 2800+ its 166*12.5=2.075ghz(but actually it shows up as 2.088ghz) __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 07:15 PM	Thread Starter #26
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	i know, also 1.9 is 2800, and also 2.19 ghz is a 2800, lil weird:P just running on 1.9ghz then __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 07:36 PM	#27
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	My AMD xp1800+ runs up to 2300mhz @ 1.6v (probably faster with water) It matters if it is a Tbred "B" or not and what the default voltage is too. __________________

Sep 24, 2004, 08:19 PM	#28
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	tbred B's are the shit man. I love em __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 02:13 PM	Thread Starter #29
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	of i buy a kt600 or some mb with fsb400 support, will it be faster then fsb333? examplee 12.5166 --> 2075 10.5200 --> 2100 __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 02:18 PM	Thread Starter #30
Hilco DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Drachten, the Netherlands Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	of i buy a kt600 or some mb with fsb400 support, will it be faster then fsb333? examplee 12.5166 --> 2075 10.5200 --> 2100 __________________