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Old Sep 26, 2004, 10:40 PM   #1
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the offical barton vcore thread

many people claims high vcore rate such as 1.9x can damage the cpu fast.. and its too risky. others think different.. so i think we should clear this up.
please post your opinion in the subject.

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i have barton 2800 and only 1.95 pass prime test under 12.5x200mhz
while others use 1.95v under 219mhzx12.5 isnt it weird ?

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Old Sep 26, 2004, 10:56 PM   #2
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i wouldn't go past 1.9v on a thouroughbred B or a barton unless it's watercooled.
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Old Sep 26, 2004, 11:00 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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only because the temperatures ? if temps fine under load with 1.9v with air cooling?

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Old Sep 27, 2004, 02:09 AM   #4
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many people claims high vcore rate such as 1.9x can damage the cpu fast.. and its too risky. others think different.. so i think we should clear this up.
please post your opinion in the subject.

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i have barton 2800 and only 1.95 pass prime test under 12.5x200mhz
while others use 1.95v under 219mhzx12.5 isnt it weird ?
more voltage does damage the CPU faster, keep in mind a cpu is spec'ed for 10 years of use , it shortens it's life due to the basic theory of electrical degradation. The more power the more heat (heat adds a smal amount of resistance) the more voltage in a circut the faster it degrades. But were talking years! not days

Many people have ran the CPU's @ over 2 volts for verry long times!

It could be the paticular CPU's limit, it could be your temps, then again it could be your south/north brige holding you back, you can volt mod (pencil trick, that will up both) or /also use a hacked bios such as the ubber bios, that allows you to chose the north bridge voltage
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Old Sep 27, 2004, 03:33 AM   #5
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that's exactly what i was going to say neon....'cept for the hacked bios part .
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i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher
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i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher
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Old Sep 27, 2004, 08:57 AM   #8
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i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher
that is true only for p4 northwood cores. actually, w/the northwood chips, you shouldn't go above 1.7v. AMD chips, i wouldn't go over 1.9v unless i was doing some extreme OCing.
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well tried everything.. nothing helps.. my cpu is stable only under 1.95v
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Old Sep 27, 2004, 12:57 PM   #10
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Well there are some standard voltages for AMD, you can tell from its label on processor. Mine is Barton 2500+ @3200+ 200x11 1.7V and I think 1.85 is the top limit for me. I don't want to go any further. If I may suggest, you better find a better proc (you can tell from its label once again before you but it), running at that voltage really makes your proc dying.
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Old Oct 5, 2004, 09:19 AM   #11
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1.85 is my motherboards max being stable so far @ 199fsb on a barton 2600. so i guess thats as high as i'll be going.
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whoaw.... i never needed that much voltage with my xp2500...
at 1.65 it did 200fsb stable.. only tested 1.7 but it didn't make a difference.
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I have my Barton from 2500+ to 2.2 GHz 3200+ and left the voltage at stock which is about 1.65v. No stability issues and it runs like a champ.
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I'm running 2 2500 Bartons, one locked and one unlocked. The locked is running at 220x11 @ 1.85v water cooled for about a year now and the other runs at a max of 12x210 or 215x11 @ 1.80v also water cooled. I think my ram is holding both of them back. Temps on both stay around 40c under max load.
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Man, that cannot be that way! You shouldn't use 1.95 VCore unless you're using WC...or just for a bench. Try to lower...1.8V max for aircooling.
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Had to put 1.85 volts through my Barton 2500 rto get it stable @ 3200 speeds. All is well now, temps are also fine. Running at 33c idle and 39 full load.

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i've being running @ 1.85V for about a month and a half so far so good. 2600+ @ 200FSB, 2305Mhz.
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i had my 3000+ @ 230fsb at 2.6ghz 1.75 vcore. it was a beauty with a thermalright slk900-a
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thermalright makes good stuff . My friend bought me the thermalright northbridge cooler for my b-day. All copper, that thing is a beauty. I just want to get the sp-94 and a 92MM tornado to go w/it. Then i'll have a better OCing system .
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how do you get 1.95v? mine only goes to 1.875 :'(
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i wish i could change my voltage at all
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how do you get 1.95v? mine only goes to 1.875 :'(
update your BIOS if you don't already have the newest one. Usually BIOS updates will give you new feature, or updated stuff, like increased voltages, and/or higher FSB settings. If you already have the newest BIOS version of your board, then all you can do is 1.875v.

My old ePox board did upto 2.2v. I never took my old xp2400/xp2500 chips that high though. Never went past 1.9v on that board.
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I have my Barton 2500 at 3200 speeds (11x200) and was running it a default voltage for almost a year, then I started getting random crashes about 6 months ago. Now it seems that every 2-3 months I have to bump the voltage 0.25 to keep it stable at 3200 speeds. I'm up to 1.775 now. You think it's on it's last leg?

I'm just using a Volcano 9 HSF but my temps are 32-33 idle, 48-50 under a 3 hour gaming load.

Even if it blew up next week, I wouldn't complain. I've been running it at 3200 since I got it over a year and a half or so. I would just get another, maybe a mobile 2500 or 2600.
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it shouldn't be dying like that if it's still at stock voltages. But if and/or when it does go out, i'd say get an Athlon 64. The only thing you'd be getting new in an Athlon 64 system would just be a board and CPU if you really think about it. That is unless you want to go all out and get new everything.
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I have an Asus A7N8X2.0 and its Bios version 1007. They have 1010 now but there is no 1008 or 1009 and the 1010 is just added support for Sempron procs.
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