Time for a new Vid Card?

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 08:00 AM

Well..you can all see my 3DMark scores....haha *gag*

I thin this christmas is an opportune time for a new video card. I was originally gunna try and wait til next christmas...but I don't wanna anymore

So, what do you all suggest in the AGP market that won't set me back $900...lol

I'm very strongly considering Disptick's 6800GT that he's selling...what sort of score improvement woudl i see there? I'm ideally looking for something that would put my 3DMark 03 score in the 10000+ department. My 9800 pro at the minute is running at about 20MHz(400/370 I think) over stock, if that helps yall out any.

Lemme know!

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 08:06 AM

Well I went from a 9800 Pro to a Gainward 6800 GT, my 3D mark improved from 6200 or something to 12600. I play everything with at least 4AA & 8 AF ver very smooth, the only downside to have an Nvida card is their driver support. I think it sucks.

But you can't go wrong with either a 6800 GT @ Ultra speeds or of course the might X800XT. Just don't go for a X800 pro.
And maybe if you wait a bit then you can buy ether the R480 or the NV 48.

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 08:25 AM

I'm looking in the pricerange of aout $300, so if your 6800GT was that large of a jump...I'm excited

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

I'm looking in the pricerange of aout $300, so if your 6800GT was that large of a jump...I'm excited

Well it was, acutally more than double the perfomance.

But do keep in mind that I benched 3DM 03 @ 430/1200, at default speed (400/1100) I get about 12000, and at GT speeds well I did bench once at that speed I got 11100 or something like that.

But as my card is under warranty when running at 400/1100 I never ever go below that speed.

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 05:14 PM

oh..it will eb overclocked to hell and back.....

...i've come within inches of cookign my current 9800 pro, as it won't OC for sh*t...lol

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 05:21 PM

Then if you buy a 6800 GT, make sure that it do overclock to Ultra speeds, that way you have paid for a GT and got an Ultra.

But if you find a X800XT, then you can clock that beast to PE speeds and have the fastest card around.

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 05:30 PM

XT's are a good 100+ dollars more

Asmoday · Nov 5, 2004, 05:32 PM

If you get the 6800gt with a single slot cooling solution i would really recommend the nvsilencer 5....ahhh the silence, and it performce really well I
too

I put one onto my Gainward 6800gt, and i really like it alot....the soundlevel dropped from very audible to as good as completely silent. But it was necessary to mod the card pretty much to make it fit, i had to cut the second pci plate in half, and shave down some of the fins on the little heatsink that is closest to the molex connector (my warrenty is screwed

)

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 05:32 PM

Then you should make sure that if you decide to buy a GT that it clocks to Ultra speeds easily.

What brand is the one you where looking at??

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmoday

If you get the 6800gt with a single slot cooling solution i would really recommend the nvsilencer 5....ahhh the silence, and it performce really well too

You bought the NV Silencer???

tell me more.....tell me tell me tell me.........

Asmoday · Nov 5, 2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmoday

If you get the 6800gt with a single slot cooling solution i would really recommend the nvsilencer 5....ahhh the silence, and it performce really well
too

I put one onto my Gainward 6800gt, and i really like it alot....the soundlevel dropped from very audible to as good as completely silent. But it was necessary to mod the card pretty much to make it fit, i had to cut the second pci plate in half, and shave down some of the fins on the little heatsink that is closest to the molex connector (my warrenty is screwed

)

i edited my first post...

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmoday

If you get the 6800gt with a single slot cooling solution i would really recommend the nvsilencer 5....ahhh the silence, and it performce really well I
too

I put one onto my Gainward 6800gt, and i really like it alot....the soundlevel dropped from very audible to as good as completely silent. But it was necessary to mod the card pretty much to make it fit, i had to cut the second pci plate in half, and shave down some of the fins on the little heatsink that is closest to the molex connector (my warrenty is screwed

)

That sounds too advanced for me. How is the temps now, like before??

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 05:45 PM

haha...nobody needs a warranty....

...and as long as the nv silencer doesn't require my removing the stock ramsinks...i'm all for it

Asmoday · Nov 5, 2004, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danhill

That sounds too advanced for me. How is the temps now, like before??

the idle temp is a couple of degrees higher, but the load temps remains about the same...maybe a bit lower even,,

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

...and as long as the nv silencer doesn't require my removing the stock ramsinks...i'm all for it

The nv silencer have ram-cooling so you have to remove the stock sinks...but that wasn't a bad thing for me...i got a slight higher mem overclock with the silencer

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 05:57 PM

What your highest stable oc now Asmoday??
Mine is 435/1250 I haven't tried higher though.

Asmoday · Nov 5, 2004, 06:02 PM

with stockcooling my highest artifact free overclock was 425/1200, with the nv silencer im about at the same as you Daniel....it seems that you got a better gt then me....
btw did you get yours at JME?

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 06:16 PM

No I got mine from a store in Malmö called DMS Enterprise, really cheap store, they had 1 in stock, now they don't anymore :-). I found it for 4474:- SEK
http://www.dms.m.se/ but it wasn't meant for me to take this card, I waanted the Inno3D first for 4000:- but they where sold out so the only options I had was the Gainward.

I did that oc with rivatuner and the fans was at 100 % just to be safe and I only benched 3D Mark 03 and 05.

refraction · Nov 5, 2004, 06:59 PM

taking a different opinion this, you dont really NEED a new video card, i can guarentee nothing is slow on it so you dont really need it.

showing a higher 3dmark score is hardly worth the 300+ its gonna cost you.

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

taking a different opinion this, you dont really NEED a new video card, i can guarentee nothing is slow on it so you dont really need it.

showing a higher 3dmark score is hardly worth the 300+ its gonna cost you.

That depends, if you want to play with everything maxed at high res and with at least 4 AA & 8 AF the yes he would need a new card.

refraction · Nov 5, 2004, 07:20 PM

you never know, he might be lucky ;p

i can play most games on max res and everything on etc with a 9800 xt and i know for a fact you can make a pro card run faster

pr0digal jenius · Nov 5, 2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

taking a different opinion this, you dont really NEED a new video card, i can guarentee nothing is slow on it so you dont really need it.

showing a higher 3dmark score is hardly worth the 300+ its gonna cost you.

I also need higher frame rates in games....I'm a detail whore, and im starting to get some nasty hiccups at 16x12 with eye candy on

(ut2k4 at about 28fps, and tribes vengeance spikes like nobodies business)

asmo...how hard is it to remove the ramsinks...i never could get them off my radeon

Asmoday · Nov 5, 2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

I also need higher frame rates in games....I'm a detail whore, and im starting to get some nasty hiccups at 16x12 with eye candy on

(ut2k4 at about 28fps, and tribes vengeance spikes like nobodies business)

asmo...how hard is it to remove the ramsinks...i never could get them off my radeon

On my gainward GT it was really easy, i just popped those push-pins out and the sinks came off without any effort..

refraction · Nov 5, 2004, 10:07 PM

get a stanley knife blade (them red really sharp knives) or razor blade, its a modders best friend

i used it to pop the shim off both my 9800 cards

Nov 5, 2004, 08:00 AM	#1
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	Time for a new Vid Card? Well..you can all see my 3DMark scores....haha gag I thin this christmas is an opportune time for a new video card. I was originally gunna try and wait til next christmas...but I don't wanna anymore So, what do you all suggest in the AGP market that won't set me back $900...lol I'm very strongly considering Disptick's 6800GT that he's selling...what sort of score improvement woudl i see there? I'm ideally looking for something that would put my 3DMark 03 score in the 10000+ department. My 9800 pro at the minute is running at about 20MHz(400/370 I think) over stock, if that helps yall out any. Lemme know!

Nov 5, 2004, 08:06 AM	#2
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Well I went from a 9800 Pro to a Gainward 6800 GT, my 3D mark improved from 6200 or something to 12600. I play everything with at least 4AA & 8 AF ver very smooth, the only downside to have an Nvida card is their driver support. I think it sucks. But you can't go wrong with either a 6800 GT @ Ultra speeds or of course the might X800XT. Just don't go for a X800 pro. And maybe if you wait a bit then you can buy ether the R480 or the NV 48. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 5, 2004, 05:21 PM	#6
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Then if you buy a 6800 GT, make sure that it do overclock to Ultra speeds, that way you have paid for a GT and got an Ultra. But if you find a X800XT, then you can clock that beast to PE speeds and have the fastest card around. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

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Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	If you get the 6800gt with a single slot cooling solution i would really recommend the nvsilencer 5....ahhh the silence, and it performce really well I too I put one onto my Gainward 6800gt, and i really like it alot....the soundlevel dropped from very audible to as good as completely silent. But it was necessary to mod the card pretty much to make it fit, i had to cut the second pci plate in half, and shave down some of the fins on the little heatsink that is closest to the molex connector (my warrenty is screwed ) __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg Last edited by Asmoday; Nov 5, 2004 at 05:37 PM.

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Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Then you should make sure that if you decide to buy a GT that it clocks to Ultra speeds easily. What brand is the one you where looking at?? __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 5, 2004, 08:25 AM	Thread Starter #3
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I'm looking in the pricerange of aout $300, so if your 6800GT was that large of a jump...I'm excited

Nov 5, 2004, 05:14 PM	Thread Starter #5
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	oh..it will eb overclocked to hell and back..... ...i've come within inches of cookign my current 9800 pro, as it won't OC for sh*t...lol

Nov 5, 2004, 05:30 PM	Thread Starter #7
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	XT's are a good 100+ dollars more

Nov 5, 2004, 05:45 PM	Thread Starter #13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	haha...nobody needs a warranty.... ...and as long as the nv silencer doesn't require my removing the stock ramsinks...i'm all for it

Nov 5, 2004, 05:57 PM	#15
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	What your highest stable oc now Asmoday?? Mine is 435/1250 I haven't tried higher though. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 5, 2004, 06:02 PM	#16
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	with stockcooling my highest artifact free overclock was 425/1200, with the nv silencer im about at the same as you Daniel....it seems that you got a better gt then me.... btw did you get yours at JME? __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Nov 5, 2004, 06:16 PM	#17
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	No I got mine from a store in Malmö called DMS Enterprise, really cheap store, they had 1 in stock, now they don't anymore :-). I found it for 4474:- SEK http://www.dms.m.se/ but it wasn't meant for me to take this card, I waanted the Inno3D first for 4000:- but they where sold out so the only options I had was the Gainward. I did that oc with rivatuner and the fans was at 100 % just to be safe and I only benched 3D Mark 03 and 05. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

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refraction DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 307 Rep Power: 0 $refraction is on a distinguished road$	taking a different opinion this, you dont really NEED a new video card, i can guarentee nothing is slow on it so you dont really need it. showing a higher 3dmark score is hardly worth the 300+ its gonna cost you. __________________ [color=royalblue]Computer Specs[/color] := [color=royalblue]AMD Opteron 146 2.0Ghz @ 2.9Ghz[/color] = [color=royalblue]1024Mb PC4400 RAM Dual Channel[/color] = [color=royalblue]Gainward BLISS 7900GTX 512mb[/color] = [color=royalblue]SB Audigy 4 [/color]= [color=royalblue]250Gb SATA Hard Drive[/color] = [color=royalblue]Thermaltake Xaser Case [/color]= [color=royalblue]Benq FP91G+[/color][color=royalblue] 19" TFT[/color]
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refraction DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 307 Rep Power: 0 $refraction is on a distinguished road$	you never know, he might be lucky ;p i can play most games on max res and everything on etc with a 9800 xt and i know for a fact you can make a pro card run faster __________________ [color=royalblue]Computer Specs[/color] := [color=royalblue]AMD Opteron 146 2.0Ghz @ 2.9Ghz[/color] = [color=royalblue]1024Mb PC4400 RAM Dual Channel[/color] = [color=royalblue]Gainward BLISS 7900GTX 512mb[/color] = [color=royalblue]SB Audigy 4 [/color]= [color=royalblue]250Gb SATA Hard Drive[/color] = [color=royalblue]Thermaltake Xaser Case [/color]= [color=royalblue]Benq FP91G+[/color][color=royalblue] 19" TFT[/color]
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refraction DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 307 Rep Power: 0 $refraction is on a distinguished road$	get a stanley knife blade (them red really sharp knives) or razor blade, its a modders best friend i used it to pop the shim off both my 9800 cards __________________ [color=royalblue]Computer Specs[/color] := [color=royalblue]AMD Opteron 146 2.0Ghz @ 2.9Ghz[/color] = [color=royalblue]1024Mb PC4400 RAM Dual Channel[/color] = [color=royalblue]Gainward BLISS 7900GTX 512mb[/color] = [color=royalblue]SB Audigy 4 [/color]= [color=royalblue]250Gb SATA Hard Drive[/color] = [color=royalblue]Thermaltake Xaser Case [/color]= [color=royalblue]Benq FP91G+[/color][color=royalblue] 19" TFT[/color]
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