Pentium M overclocking in a laptop

erebus · Jan 2, 2005, 02:15 PM

Hi,
do you know what tool do i need to overclock PentiumM, banias core 1,4GHZ in a gateway m505X. My gateway has 855gm mobo. I tried clockgen and doesn't support my chipest. Any other tools.
Thanks

drakesteakn · Jan 2, 2005, 02:27 PM

if its a gateway its locked

MiDKnYtE · Jan 2, 2005, 02:46 PM

I wouldn't OC a laptop. there is very restricted cooling in it already. the heatsink isn't designed for OCing.

erebus · Jan 2, 2005, 03:40 PM

I know. I just want to overclock to 1,6 just for benchmarking...
Isn't there another tool or stuff to unlock overclocking?

No_Style · Jan 2, 2005, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erebus

I know. I just want to overclock to 1,6 just for benchmarking...
Isn't there another tool or stuff to unlock overclocking?

Negative on that. Overclocking is primarily effective through the BIOS and/or dip switches. If your motherboard doesn't allow either than, no go.

drakesteakn · Jan 2, 2005, 05:11 PM

umm, NO!!!! i wish it wasnt so. but they lock these computers up really good.

Geminiwave · Jan 3, 2005, 12:45 AM

yeah gateway is pretty bad. We have other names for that company which I shall not repeat since they are rather derogatory...but sufficed to say, you cant really OC.

just be happy with the proc you have(or if you arent, send it to me!!!)

MiDKnYtE · Jan 3, 2005, 01:23 AM

Large OEMs usually have agreements with Intel to NOT include overclocking. If Intel doesn't include OC capability on their own boards ( 925 "Burn-in mode not included), then they wouldn't allow their vendors to do it. Smaller independents like Alienware, FalconNW, etc. market to the enthusiast crowd.

Geminiwave · Jan 3, 2005, 01:27 AM

they also want your computer to be out of date ASAP.

but newer compaqs can actually OC sometimes. not always though.

erebus · Jan 3, 2005, 10:19 AM

I bought a Gateway because it is a lappy, i built my desktop myself.
But isn't there a software tool to do that beside clockgen which doesn't support my chipset

Zardon · Jan 3, 2005, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erebus

Hi,
do you know what tool do i need to overclock PentiumM, banias core 1,4GHZ in a gateway m505X. My gateway has 855gm mobo. I tried clockgen and doesn't support my chipest. Any other tools.
Thanks

Please bear in mind that most laptop makers tend to build laptops with quite tight thermal dynamics in mind. You have to remember that air flow within a laptop is a totally different principal than a desktop, because you cant add or replace fans or heatsinks with higher grade models etc.

Personally most laptops I wouldnt touch to overclock unless the manufacturer intentionally unlocks options within the bios for doing so, I know a few makers like voodoo and alienware offer this with some models but even then you need to be careful especially contemplating voltage increases to the core.

Geminiwave · Jan 3, 2005, 05:43 PM

Right. Listen to Alan. hes a smart cookie when it comes to computers.

And if gateway is anything like compaq...after sitting one of those high-end compaq laptops in my lap for a bit...DANNGG my lap was fried. I would NEVER OC that sucker.

MiDKnYtE · Jan 3, 2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDKnYtE

I wouldn't OC a laptop. there is very restricted cooling in it already. the heatsink isn't designed for OCing.

The point is that even if you could OC your laptop, we don't recommend it. I have seen a Toshiba that literally caught on fire. One side had a huge melted hole in it. My friend took pictures of it, but he's in Vegas this week. I'll see about getting 'em from him when he comes back.

erebus · Jan 4, 2005, 11:21 AM

It is bull....
I have overclocked my GPU from 317/210 to 370/240

And when i''m gaming i have my notebook on my table with its back elevated for improved airflow

Zardon · Jan 4, 2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erebus

It is bull....
I have overclocked my GPU from 317/210 to 370/240

And when i''m gaming i have my notebook on my table with its back elevated for improved airflow

Of course you can overclock your graphics card but you dont seem to listening to the points a few of us where making. A laptop, even the best/highest end models have restricted air flow so when you overclock not only are you increasing the thermal temperatures of the core you are causing more heat to flow inside the laptop. This isnt a debate on whether you "can" overclock your machine but whether its worth the possible risks for what is in most cases such small gains. Overclocking your mobility graphics card in most cases will be fine, but you are aware that by doing so temperatures inside the laptop will increase slightly depending how much you do this and it will in quite a few cases cause the lifespan of your machine to lower and can cause failures with not only the GFX but other pieces of hardware inside the chassis. This is why most laptop makers lock out the bios for FSB overclocking and core voltage increases as this can be dangerous over a longer peroid of time.

Incidentally you arent "improving" airflow by lifting the back up, you are merely giving it the maximum airflow it was designed to take under ideal conditions, the only way you will genuinely improve airflow is to upgrade the fans or cooling system - which of course isnt recommended as you will invalidate your warranty.

Rule of thumb with laptops, is leave them as they are supplied (unless you are an expert modder) and if you buy a high end model such as an inspiron 9xxx, alienware or voodoo machine if the manufacturer wants you to overclock it, it will be unlocked in the bios and will have some helpful documentation supplied.

Dont take this with a pinch of salt, ive had discussions with many makers over the years and have seen internal thermal reports. you would be surprised just how close to the wire some of those high end machines are running. It still amazes me makers like Dell have gotten a prescott 3ghz+ running successfully inside a restricted chassis.

Geminiwave · Jan 4, 2005, 10:50 PM

As I've said many times before:

LISTEN TO THE MAN!

trust me OCing laptops is a VERY bad idea.

and the guy wasnt asking about graphics OCing...thats easy enough to do(though still quite dangerous) he was asking about CPU overclocking...and it is probably not possible.

Nuke209 · Jan 5, 2005, 03:48 AM

....answer is no...understand it.

MiDKnYtE · Jan 5, 2005, 05:32 AM

Here are the pics:

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/attachme...postid=1225657
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/attachme...postid=1225660

Jan 2, 2005, 02:15 PM	#1
erebus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Romania, CTA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Pentium M overclocking in a laptop Hi, do you know what tool do i need to overclock PentiumM, banias core 1,4GHZ in a gateway m505X. My gateway has 855gm mobo. I tried clockgen and doesn't support my chipest. Any other tools. Thanks __________________ You should Fear the dark... Gateway m505x lappy: Pentium m banias 1,4ghz/512 mb of ram ddr333, Radeon 9600mobility with 64mb video overclocked @ 384/256 laterz...

Jan 2, 2005, 02:27 PM	#2
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	if its a gateway its locked __________________

Jan 2, 2005, 03:40 PM	Thread Starter #4
erebus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Romania, CTA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I know. I just want to overclock to 1,6 just for benchmarking... Isn't there another tool or stuff to unlock overclocking? __________________ You should Fear the dark... Gateway m505x lappy: Pentium m banias 1,4ghz/512 mb of ram ddr333, Radeon 9600mobility with 64mb video overclocked @ 384/256 laterz...

Jan 2, 2005, 05:11 PM	#6
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	umm, NO!!!! i wish it wasnt so. but they lock these computers up really good. __________________

Jan 3, 2005, 12:45 AM	#7
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	yeah gateway is pretty bad. We have other names for that company which I shall not repeat since they are rather derogatory...but sufficed to say, you cant really OC. just be happy with the proc you have(or if you arent, send it to me!!!) __________________

Jan 2, 2005, 02:46 PM	#3
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	I wouldn't OC a laptop. there is very restricted cooling in it already. the heatsink isn't designed for OCing.

Jan 3, 2005, 01:23 AM	#8
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	Large OEMs usually have agreements with Intel to NOT include overclocking. If Intel doesn't include OC capability on their own boards ( 925 "Burn-in mode not included), then they wouldn't allow their vendors to do it. Smaller independents like Alienware, FalconNW, etc. market to the enthusiast crowd.

Jan 3, 2005, 01:27 AM	#9
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	they also want your computer to be out of date ASAP. but newer compaqs can actually OC sometimes. not always though. __________________

Jan 3, 2005, 10:19 AM	Thread Starter #10
erebus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Romania, CTA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I bought a Gateway because it is a lappy, i built my desktop myself. But isn't there a software tool to do that beside clockgen which doesn't support my chipset __________________ You should Fear the dark... Gateway m505x lappy: Pentium m banias 1,4ghz/512 mb of ram ddr333, Radeon 9600mobility with 64mb video overclocked @ 384/256 laterz...

Jan 3, 2005, 05:43 PM	#12
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Right. Listen to Alan. hes a smart cookie when it comes to computers. And if gateway is anything like compaq...after sitting one of those high-end compaq laptops in my lap for a bit...DANNGG my lap was fried. I would NEVER OC that sucker. __________________

Jan 4, 2005, 11:21 AM	Thread Starter #14
erebus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Romania, CTA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	It is bull.... I have overclocked my GPU from 317/210 to 370/240 And when i''m gaming i have my notebook on my table with its back elevated for improved airflow __________________ You should Fear the dark... Gateway m505x lappy: Pentium m banias 1,4ghz/512 mb of ram ddr333, Radeon 9600mobility with 64mb video overclocked @ 384/256 laterz...

Jan 4, 2005, 10:50 PM	#16
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	As I've said many times before: LISTEN TO THE MAN! trust me OCing laptops is a VERY bad idea. and the guy wasnt asking about graphics OCing...thats easy enough to do(though still quite dangerous) he was asking about CPU overclocking...and it is probably not possible. __________________

Jan 5, 2005, 03:48 AM	#17
Nuke209 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Paul Posts: 568 Rep Power: 0	....answer is no...understand it. __________________ 2006 Subaru Impreza WRX

Jan 5, 2005, 05:32 AM	#18
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	Here are the pics: http://www.sysopt.com/forum/attachme...postid=1225657 http://www.sysopt.com/forum/attachme...postid=1225660