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jasonbourne · Sep 2, 2005, 09:23 PM

here is the link for the memory http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=66674

i tried running them at all kinds of speeds and voltages.i even tried using them on my mates motherboard(asus a8n sli) and the same error came up

**MIG-31** · Sep 2, 2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbourne

here is the link for the memory http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=66674

i tried running them at all kinds of speeds and voltages.i even tried using them on my mates motherboard(asus a8n sli) and the same error came up

then the must be a fault with a memory module..... try one of those 256's one at a time...

or try out Memtest86.

This needs to be installed onto a floppy and run from boot up.

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 2, 2005, 09:28 PM

Hello Jason,

I am unfamiliar with your motherboard...can you point me to the manual etc online..so I can look at the bios and make some suggestions ?

jasonbourne · Sep 2, 2005, 09:32 PM

yep here is the link.http://www.pcpartner.com/products/ati/m-a58x.htm

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 2, 2005, 09:46 PM

Ok...well that is about the most useless manual I have found !!!

I think you might have a stick that has issues..but we need to find out which one Mig31 hit it on the head...we need to test each stick.

Please remove all 4 sticks....clear the CMOS on the board and insert 1 stick into the slot closest to the CPU...now boot up to memtest (www.memtest.org you can download an ISO and burn it to a CD)
Let memtest run for 2 passes....if no errors...power down...swap sticks and repeat until you have done all 4 sticks....my guess is that you will find 1 stick with some errors.

Thanks

**MIG-31** · Sep 2, 2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Ok...well that is about the most useless manual I have found !!!

I think you might have a stick that has issues..but we need to find out which one Mig31 hit it on the head...we need to test each stick.

Please remove all 4 sticks....clear the CMOS on the board and insert 1 stick into the slot closest to the CPU...now boot up to memtest (www.memtest.org you can download an ISO and burn it to a CD)
Let memtest run for 2 passes....if no errors...power down...swap sticks and repeat until you have done all 4 sticks....my guess is that you will find 1 stick with some errors.

Thanks

What is quoted would of been my next post...

That will be the route you need to take.....yes it will be a pain in the ass but it is a required one also...

Jason i just hope you do have the time to do all this.....but i will bet you have at least one faulty stick of ram...as the same problem happens on another system.

Rasta Monsta · Sep 2, 2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Hi Rasta,

If you set the timings manually these SPD settings are meaningless anyway...do all 4 sticks run in the PC as they should?

Ryder -

At 200 FSB, comp would not boot at 2-2-2-5, but would boot at 2.5-2-3-5. MemTest produced 1000's of errors in a two hour run. There were Windows problems as well, with programs reporting file corruption. I removed the two new sticks and all was well again.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Rasta

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 3, 2005, 12:14 AM

Ok Rasta,

Are we working with the IC7-G in your sig?

Did you try just the 2 new modules by themselves so we can see if we are having an issue with all 4 slots filled or if it is indeed a problem with the modules themselves.

Thank You.

Rasta Monsta · Sep 3, 2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Ok Rasta,

Are we working with the IC7-G in your sig?

Did you try just the 2 new modules by themselves so we can see if we are having an issue with all 4 slots filled or if it is indeed a problem with the modules themselves.

Thank You.

Yes, sig is accurate. I reran MemTest with just the new modules with failures in all tests. I then switched to the other pair of slots, same results.

rasta

P.S. Here is a dumb newb question. . .these are DS sticks, yes? And do those two OCZ Part Numbers reflected in CPUZ represent the same OCZ part?

Zardon · Sep 3, 2005, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Ok Rasta,

Are we working with the IC7-G in your sig?

Did you try just the 2 new modules by themselves so we can see if we are having an issue with all 4 slots filled or if it is indeed a problem with the modules themselves.

Thank You.

Well its been awhile since ive used an IC7 mobo, but I remember when I last tried, it didnt like all four slots filled. not sure if a more recent bios fixed that.....

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 3, 2005, 12:39 AM

Yes DS sticks....and yes those are the same part...someone forgot to Key in the EL is all.

Send me an email though if the second kit errors by itself and the older does not...we have a problem...Link is in Sig

Zelig · Sep 4, 2005, 02:34 AM

I'm having some trouble with my PC3200 Platinum 2x1GB kit. One stick is fine while tested alone, the other one errors within minutes at stock auto (on mobo) settings, with this screenshot showing the best I've been able to do.

CPU - 0508 3000+ Winchester
Motherboard - DFI SLI-D
PSU - 520 watt Modstream

WxChaser · Sep 4, 2005, 02:41 AM

Try bumping your Vcore voltage up just a bit then run Memtest again. What are you running for Vcore and Vdimm voltages currently in BIOS?

Zelig · Sep 4, 2005, 02:52 AM

Vcore is fine, it's some combination equalling just over 1.6v, running working memory on dividers the cpu is good to about 2.35 GHz with the current vcore.

Vdimm is 2.6 with +0.3V disabled. I spent a lot of time trying everything I could trying to get them to work in dual channel, but I haven't tried anything higher with just that stick, I'll up it to 2.7 and run memtest overnight.

WxChaser · Sep 4, 2005, 03:00 AM

I believe that will help your problem by bumping up your memory voltage. It will easily accept up to 2.9v without any issues.

Zelig · Sep 4, 2005, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WxChaser

I believe that will help your problem by bumping up your memory voltage. It will easily accept up to 2.9v without any issues.

Most of the stuff I read (primarily in the OCZ section on the bleedinedge boards) suggested that 2.6-2.8v was the best for these sticks, and past that didn't help anything. But I'll try a bit higher for this stick anyhow, and see if anything comes of it.

WxChaser · Sep 4, 2005, 03:16 AM

As long as you have decent active cooling you should be fine at 2.8v. Check out your results first in Memtest or other stability tests you prefer to see if the slight increase helps you out.

Zelig · Sep 5, 2005, 02:14 PM

Alright, turns out vdimm was actually 2.7v before, vcore is 1.275x126%.

Upped vdimm to 2.8v. It seems that trp is causing some of the problems, trp=2 and instant errors, with trp=3, prime passed for quite a long time (14 hours, 31 minutes) before erroring out.

The 14h test was done with
trp=3 (stock 2)
twr=2 (stock 3)
twtr=1 (stock 2)
trtw=2 (stock 3)

I'll try upping the last 3 by 1, and letting it run again... any more ideas? As I said before, this is only 1 stick that's being problematic, the other stick will happily pass stability tests for days with 2.6v. (and trp=2)

WxChaser · Sep 5, 2005, 05:28 PM

Are you just running test 5 on memtest, or are you checking tests # 3 and # 8 also? If you use the latest Memtest version there are adjustments for A64 timings that you can test on the fly.

Need more info on your actual memory, which revision of the OCZ Platinum PC3200.
If it is what I think, try 2.5-3-2-8 timings, with TRCD at 3 and TRP set to 2 in your testing please.

On your winnie, stock Vcore is ~ 1.45v - you could easily run it up to 1.55v on the Vcore voltage and get around a 30 percent overclock.

Steve

Zelig · Sep 5, 2005, 09:30 PM

Have been testing in prime mostly since my posts here, since I'm able to use the computer at the same time.

Memory is OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K, the 2x1Gb kit, of which I thought there was only 1 revision, using Infineon chips. 2.5-3-3-x timings work fine up to 220 MHz or so at least, but I got this kit for it's ability to run low timings at 200 MHz. (2-3-2-5 stock)

My vcore is at 1.6065v, which is good to nearly 2.4GHz for the cpu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WxChaser

If it is what I think, try 2.5-3-2-8 timings, with TRCD at 3 and TRP set to 2 in your testing please.

That's a no go, errors within seconds.

WxChaser · Sep 5, 2005, 11:32 PM

Try 2.5-3-3-8 timings and see if that shakes out better. How high HTT/front side bus speeds are you wanting to run on an everyday basis?

Zelig · Sep 5, 2005, 11:48 PM

Yeah, 2.5-3-3-x works fine, as I said in my previous post, but I'd like to be able to run at something closer to 2-3-2-x, which the ram is rated for (and which the other stick does with no problems).

I was running 260 HTT with my 1GB on a divider before, but I'd be happy to run as low as 245 or so with whatever memory divider gives me the best performance.

Widkidone · Sep 6, 2005, 12:08 AM

Hmm i am thinking of getting 2 GB of ram for my P4C800 motherboard any ideas?

These: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ

or

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 7, 2005, 04:26 AM

@ Zelig,

Email me so we can swap out that kit....if 1 stick is fine and one errors after you clear the CMOS on the board....then we have a problem...Link is in my Sig

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 7, 2005, 04:27 AM

@ Widkidone,

Either of those should work just fine on your P4C800....The platinum kit should be good to about 215-230FSB and the Performance kit...maybe to 240ish.

Hope that helps

mike2h · Sep 7, 2005, 07:30 AM

ryder! i think i am having problems because my 4x256 sticks do not have high enough density. can you please exchange my sticks for(if they exist) higher density single sided? otherwise, if i have to, i will settle for dbl sided.
i think this exchange will fix my problem. thx

Zelig · Sep 7, 2005, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

@ Zelig,

Email me so we can swap out that kit....if 1 stick is fine and one errors after you clear the CMOS on the board....then we have a problem...Link is in my Sig

If I do this, the whole kit gets swapped, not just the bad stick, right?
If so, I'll probably just RMA with my retailer, since I'll get free express shipping both ways with them.

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 7, 2005, 03:36 PM

@Mike2h

What problem are you having...I went through the thread and couldn't find where we discussed your problem...send me an email so we can talk about it easier.

Thanks

*RyderOCZ* · Sep 7, 2005, 03:37 PM

@ Zelig,

Yes we would replace both sticks in the kit. RMA'ing through your retailer is fine...but OCZ will test replacements before they are sent to you...the retailer probably won't.

Thanks

Widkidone · Sep 7, 2005, 04:17 PM

Yeah with my P4C800 Deluxe i am really looking forward to get these: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ

Anything i should do after i install these or anything, or would my board just set itself to the specifications Any help would be great so i can see what these babies can do

but my CL is set to 2.5 on my current ones........ do i need to change anything?

Sep 2, 2005, 09:23 PM	#181
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	here is the link for the memory http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=66674 i tried running them at all kinds of speeds and voltages.i even tried using them on my mates motherboard(asus a8n sli) and the same error came up __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Sep 2, 2005, 09:32 PM	#184
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	yep here is the link.http://www.pcpartner.com/products/ati/m-a58x.htm __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Sep 4, 2005, 02:34 AM	#192
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	I'm having some trouble with my PC3200 Platinum 2x1GB kit. One stick is fine while tested alone, the other one errors within minutes at stock auto (on mobo) settings, with this screenshot showing the best I've been able to do. CPU - 0508 3000+ Winchester Motherboard - DFI SLI-D PSU - 520 watt Modstream __________________ --

Sep 4, 2005, 02:52 AM	#194
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Vcore is fine, it's some combination equalling just over 1.6v, running working memory on dividers the cpu is good to about 2.35 GHz with the current vcore. Vdimm is 2.6 with +0.3V disabled. I spent a lot of time trying everything I could trying to get them to work in dual channel, but I haven't tried anything higher with just that stick, I'll up it to 2.7 and run memtest overnight. __________________ --

Sep 5, 2005, 02:14 PM	#198
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Alright, turns out vdimm was actually 2.7v before, vcore is 1.275x126%. Upped vdimm to 2.8v. It seems that trp is causing some of the problems, trp=2 and instant errors, with trp=3, prime passed for quite a long time (14 hours, 31 minutes) before erroring out. The 14h test was done with trp=3 (stock 2) twr=2 (stock 3) twtr=1 (stock 2) trtw=2 (stock 3) I'll try upping the last 3 by 1, and letting it run again... any more ideas? As I said before, this is only 1 stick that's being problematic, the other stick will happily pass stability tests for days with 2.6v. (and trp=2) __________________ --

Sep 2, 2005, 09:28 PM	Thread Starter #183
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	Hello Jason, I am unfamiliar with your motherboard...can you point me to the manual etc online..so I can look at the bios and make some suggestions ?

Sep 2, 2005, 09:46 PM	Thread Starter #185
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	Ok...well that is about the most useless manual I have found !!! I think you might have a stick that has issues..but we need to find out which one Mig31 hit it on the head...we need to test each stick. Please remove all 4 sticks....clear the CMOS on the board and insert 1 stick into the slot closest to the CPU...now boot up to memtest (www.memtest.org you can download an ISO and burn it to a CD) Let memtest run for 2 passes....if no errors...power down...swap sticks and repeat until you have done all 4 sticks....my guess is that you will find 1 stick with some errors. Thanks

Sep 3, 2005, 12:14 AM	Thread Starter #188
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	Ok Rasta, Are we working with the IC7-G in your sig? Did you try just the 2 new modules by themselves so we can see if we are having an issue with all 4 slots filled or if it is indeed a problem with the modules themselves. Thank You.

Sep 3, 2005, 12:39 AM	Thread Starter #191
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	Yes DS sticks....and yes those are the same part...someone forgot to Key in the EL is all. Send me an email though if the second kit errors by itself and the older does not...we have a problem...Link is in Sig

Sep 4, 2005, 02:41 AM	#193
WxChaser Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 404 Rep Power: 0	Try bumping your Vcore voltage up just a bit then run Memtest again. What are you running for Vcore and Vdimm voltages currently in BIOS?

Sep 4, 2005, 03:00 AM	#195
WxChaser Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 404 Rep Power: 0	I believe that will help your problem by bumping up your memory voltage. It will easily accept up to 2.9v without any issues.

Sep 4, 2005, 03:16 AM	#197
WxChaser Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 404 Rep Power: 0	As long as you have decent active cooling you should be fine at 2.8v. Check out your results first in Memtest or other stability tests you prefer to see if the slight increase helps you out.

Sep 5, 2005, 05:28 PM	#199
WxChaser Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 404 Rep Power: 0	Are you just running test 5 on memtest, or are you checking tests # 3 and # 8 also? If you use the latest Memtest version there are adjustments for A64 timings that you can test on the fly. Need more info on your actual memory, which revision of the OCZ Platinum PC3200. If it is what I think, try 2.5-3-2-8 timings, with TRCD at 3 and TRP set to 2 in your testing please. On your winnie, stock Vcore is ~ 1.45v - you could easily run it up to 1.55v on the Vcore voltage and get around a 30 percent overclock. Steve Last edited by WxChaser; Sep 5, 2005 at 05:35 PM.

Sep 5, 2005, 11:32 PM	#201
WxChaser Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 404 Rep Power: 0	Try 2.5-3-3-8 timings and see if that shakes out better. How high HTT/front side bus speeds are you wanting to run on an everyday basis?

Sep 5, 2005, 11:48 PM	#202
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Yeah, 2.5-3-3-x works fine, as I said in my previous post, but I'd like to be able to run at something closer to 2-3-2-x, which the ram is rated for (and which the other stick does with no problems). I was running 260 HTT with my 1GB on a divider before, but I'd be happy to run as low as 245 or so with whatever memory divider gives me the best performance. __________________ --

Sep 6, 2005, 12:08 AM	#203
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	Hmm i am thinking of getting 2 GB of ram for my P4C800 motherboard any ideas? These: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ or http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB

Sep 7, 2005, 04:26 AM	Thread Starter #204
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	@ Zelig, Email me so we can swap out that kit....if 1 stick is fine and one errors after you clear the CMOS on the board....then we have a problem...Link is in my Sig

Sep 7, 2005, 04:27 AM	Thread Starter #205
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	@ Widkidone, Either of those should work just fine on your P4C800....The platinum kit should be good to about 215-230FSB and the Performance kit...maybe to 240ish. Hope that helps

Sep 7, 2005, 07:30 AM	#206
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	ryder! i think i am having problems because my 4x256 sticks do not have high enough density. can you please exchange my sticks for(if they exist) higher density single sided? otherwise, if i have to, i will settle for dbl sided. i think this exchange will fix my problem. thx __________________

Sep 7, 2005, 03:36 PM	Thread Starter #208
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	@Mike2h What problem are you having...I went through the thread and couldn't find where we discussed your problem...send me an email so we can talk about it easier. Thanks

Sep 7, 2005, 03:37 PM	Thread Starter #209
RyderOCZ OCZ Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	@ Zelig, Yes we would replace both sticks in the kit. RMA'ing through your retailer is fine...but OCZ will test replacements before they are sent to you...the retailer probably won't. Thanks

Sep 7, 2005, 04:17 PM	#210
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	Yeah with my P4C800 Deluxe i am really looking forward to get these: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ Anything i should do after i install these or anything, or would my board just set itself to the specifications Any help would be great so i can see what these babies can do but my CL is set to 2.5 on my current ones........ do i need to change anything? __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB