Complete n00b asking questions!

AMD4Life · Feb 18, 2005, 01:45 AM

OK, I'm new to the whole OCing thing and I was thinking of OCing my ram(in sig), and possibly tighten the timings. How would I do this? Would my ram be able to run timings as tight as say.... 2-3-3-6? Would I be putting the RAM at great risk? If it could, would I notice much of a performance boost in games? Sorry if those were too much questions, but I am a n00b.

itchy5 · Feb 18, 2005, 02:09 AM

you cant just OC ram you need to bring you internal clock up witch brings up you CPU speed FSB and RAM. but you could put a LITTLE bit more voltage through the ram and squeese some better timings out of it

you wont see any difference in games though

AMD4Life · Feb 18, 2005, 02:14 AM

So would tightening the latencies really even be worth it? Or would I better off just buying some faster ram like pc-3500 or pc-3700?

itchy5 · Feb 18, 2005, 02:15 AM

ya new ram would be better but plan out your OCing to see how high you want to go so you know what ram to get

AMD4Life · Feb 18, 2005, 02:18 AM

Anyone want some RAM? I'll gladly trade it for some low latency pc-4000!

itchy5 · Feb 18, 2005, 02:25 AM

lol what cooling do you have? just wondering

AMD4Life · Feb 18, 2005, 02:33 AM

For now I have stock heatsinks on my cpu and 6800gt. As for case fans, I have a 120mm front fan(intake), 80mm side panel fan(intake), and a 120mm rear exhaust fan. also, there is a 120mm fan on the PSU. Maybe for my birthday I can get some nice heatsinks and/or better ram.

Iridium · Feb 18, 2005, 03:30 PM

I had some Kingston ValueRam pc2700 (166mhz stock) that would run @ 220mhz at 2.5/3/3/6 timings w/2.8v. They ran like that for over a year with no problems. I would see what your current ram can do before counting them out because sometimes you can get some good stuff without knowing. If you aren't going to go for an extreme overclock, they might run just fine for you.

However if you have some money burning a hole in your pocket and want to buy some new high quality, high speed ram, here is an article about some of the low latency pc3200 and other sticks available today wit the samsung TCCD chips on them. And don't count them out just because they are pc3200 (stock 200mhz speed), some of them can run up to 250-270ish mhz speeds.

Asmoday · Feb 18, 2005, 03:34 PM

I'm with Iridium on this one, try and see how far you can push your current RAM before buying new sticks.....

AMD4Life · Feb 19, 2005, 03:24 PM

OK, I tried a bit of latency lowering without increasing voltage and I found that this ram can do 2.5-3-3-6 with ease. However, upon trying 2-3-3-6, the system just would NOT boot until I cleared the CMOS. Maybe in a few days, when I grow more balls, I'll try increasing voltage.

Feb 18, 2005, 01:45 AM	#1
AMD4Life -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	Complete n00b asking questions! OK, I'm new to the whole OCing thing and I was thinking of OCing my ram(in sig), and possibly tighten the timings. How would I do this? Would my ram be able to run timings as tight as say.... 2-3-3-6? Would I be putting the RAM at great risk? If it could, would I notice much of a performance boost in games? Sorry if those were too much questions, but I am a n00b. __________________ [color=green]-=[My Machine]=-[/color] [color=black]DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb Socket 754 Motherboard[/color] [color=black]AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.52GHz W/ Zalman CNPS7000b-Cu CPU Cooler[/color] [color=black]1GB Corsair Value PC3200 (512mb x 2, 2.5-3-3-8 1T)[/color] [color=black]eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT AGP @ 370/1100 W/ Zalman VF700-Cu VGA Cooler[/color] [color=black]Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA HDD [/color] [color=black]Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card[/color] [color=black]Rosewill RE502 500W Power Supply[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:09 AM	#2
itchy5 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 383 Rep Power: 0	you cant just OC ram you need to bring you internal clock up witch brings up you CPU speed FSB and RAM. but you could put a LITTLE bit more voltage through the ram and squeese some better timings out of it you wont see any difference in games though __________________ [color=blue][/color] [color=#8b0000]- Canadian - and - Proud -[/color] [color=#8b0000]AI7 865 - 3.2E @ 4ghz - 6800GT @ 425/1150[/color] [color=#8b0000]pc3200 XMS - Asetek Watercooling - 43C load[/color] [color=#8b0000]the Presshot master - watered Mid-tower[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:14 AM	Thread Starter #3
AMD4Life -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	So would tightening the latencies really even be worth it? Or would I better off just buying some faster ram like pc-3500 or pc-3700? __________________ [color=green]-=[My Machine]=-[/color] [color=black]DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb Socket 754 Motherboard[/color] [color=black]AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.52GHz W/ Zalman CNPS7000b-Cu CPU Cooler[/color] [color=black]1GB Corsair Value PC3200 (512mb x 2, 2.5-3-3-8 1T)[/color] [color=black]eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT AGP @ 370/1100 W/ Zalman VF700-Cu VGA Cooler[/color] [color=black]Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA HDD [/color] [color=black]Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card[/color] [color=black]Rosewill RE502 500W Power Supply[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:15 AM	#4
itchy5 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 383 Rep Power: 0	ya new ram would be better but plan out your OCing to see how high you want to go so you know what ram to get __________________ [color=blue][/color] [color=#8b0000]- Canadian - and - Proud -[/color] [color=#8b0000]AI7 865 - 3.2E @ 4ghz - 6800GT @ 425/1150[/color] [color=#8b0000]pc3200 XMS - Asetek Watercooling - 43C load[/color] [color=#8b0000]the Presshot master - watered Mid-tower[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:18 AM	Thread Starter #5
AMD4Life -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	Anyone want some RAM? I'll gladly trade it for some low latency pc-4000! __________________ [color=green]-=[My Machine]=-[/color] [color=black]DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb Socket 754 Motherboard[/color] [color=black]AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.52GHz W/ Zalman CNPS7000b-Cu CPU Cooler[/color] [color=black]1GB Corsair Value PC3200 (512mb x 2, 2.5-3-3-8 1T)[/color] [color=black]eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT AGP @ 370/1100 W/ Zalman VF700-Cu VGA Cooler[/color] [color=black]Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA HDD [/color] [color=black]Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card[/color] [color=black]Rosewill RE502 500W Power Supply[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:25 AM	#6
itchy5 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 383 Rep Power: 0	lol what cooling do you have? just wondering __________________ [color=blue][/color] [color=#8b0000]- Canadian - and - Proud -[/color] [color=#8b0000]AI7 865 - 3.2E @ 4ghz - 6800GT @ 425/1150[/color] [color=#8b0000]pc3200 XMS - Asetek Watercooling - 43C load[/color] [color=#8b0000]the Presshot master - watered Mid-tower[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 02:33 AM	Thread Starter #7
AMD4Life -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	For now I have stock heatsinks on my cpu and 6800gt. As for case fans, I have a 120mm front fan(intake), 80mm side panel fan(intake), and a 120mm rear exhaust fan. also, there is a 120mm fan on the PSU. Maybe for my birthday I can get some nice heatsinks and/or better ram. __________________ [color=green]-=[My Machine]=-[/color] [color=black]DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb Socket 754 Motherboard[/color] [color=black]AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.52GHz W/ Zalman CNPS7000b-Cu CPU Cooler[/color] [color=black]1GB Corsair Value PC3200 (512mb x 2, 2.5-3-3-8 1T)[/color] [color=black]eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT AGP @ 370/1100 W/ Zalman VF700-Cu VGA Cooler[/color] [color=black]Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA HDD [/color] [color=black]Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card[/color] [color=black]Rosewill RE502 500W Power Supply[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 03:30 PM	#8
Iridium DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 402 Rep Power: 0	I had some Kingston ValueRam pc2700 (166mhz stock) that would run @ 220mhz at 2.5/3/3/6 timings w/2.8v. They ran like that for over a year with no problems. I would see what your current ram can do before counting them out because sometimes you can get some good stuff without knowing. If you aren't going to go for an extreme overclock, they might run just fine for you. However if you have some money burning a hole in your pocket and want to buy some new high quality, high speed ram, here is an article about some of the low latency pc3200 and other sticks available today wit the samsung TCCD chips on them. And don't count them out just because they are pc3200 (stock 200mhz speed), some of them can run up to 250-270ish mhz speeds. __________________ [color=navy]Win XP-Home Sp 2[/color] [color=blue]P4 3.2c @ 3.52 @1.6v w/SLK-900U[/color] [color=royalblue]Abit IC7-G BIOS Rev. 27[/color] [color=deepskyblue]1GB Corsair XMS XL Pro @ 2.5/3/2/6 1:1 @ 220FSB[/color] [color=lightblue]XFX 6600GT @ 585/1175 w/Stock Cooling[/color] [color=lightblue]74gb Raptor/40gb WD Caviar[/color] [color=lightblue]Ultra-X Connect 500w[/color] [color=white]3DMark03[/color],[color=white]PCMark04[/color]

Feb 18, 2005, 03:34 PM	#9
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I'm with Iridium on this one, try and see how far you can push your current RAM before buying new sticks..... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Feb 19, 2005, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #10
AMD4Life -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	OK, I tried a bit of latency lowering without increasing voltage and I found that this ram can do 2.5-3-3-6 with ease. However, upon trying 2-3-3-6, the system just would NOT boot until I cleared the CMOS. Maybe in a few days, when I grow more balls, I'll try increasing voltage. __________________ [color=green]-=[My Machine]=-[/color] [color=black]DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb Socket 754 Motherboard[/color] [color=black]AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.52GHz W/ Zalman CNPS7000b-Cu CPU Cooler[/color] [color=black]1GB Corsair Value PC3200 (512mb x 2, 2.5-3-3-8 1T)[/color] [color=black]eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT AGP @ 370/1100 W/ Zalman VF700-Cu VGA Cooler[/color] [color=black]Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA HDD [/color] [color=black]Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card[/color] [color=black]Rosewill RE502 500W Power Supply[/color]