Old School Mobo o/c help

BurL · Dec 18, 2002, 09:27 PM

I have a old school 440bx mobo, p3 500mhz, 256megs-o-ram,
agp 2x with a gainward gf3 golden sample. I want o/c my mobo, but i need help on how to do it.

Madgoat1979 · Dec 18, 2002, 09:32 PM

I have a 440bx running a p2 400.... (server)

I have overclocked it many-a time ....

ask away my friend....

MadGoat

digitalwanderer · Dec 18, 2002, 09:33 PM

Specifically what brand/model your mobo is. If you don't know, copy down it's BIOS ID as it boots up and I'll try back-tracing it thru that.

Madgoat1979 · Dec 18, 2002, 09:35 PM

most likly will ahve a bios clock... not jumper... ther bx's normaly started with the bios enabled clocking...

Redstone · Dec 18, 2002, 11:33 PM

Really do need to know what type of MOBO, and CPU cooling you have to get you started. If you have a jumperless set up it will be easy once you understand the basics. I had the PIII 500 Front Side Bus running at 112x5=560 for about 2 years with a low end heatsink and cheap ram.

I used this general guide to get started. There is a wealth of info on the net. Overclocking a PIII

BurL · Dec 19, 2002, 03:08 AM

Here is my bios id 4W4SBOXO.15A.0019.P14 I got it from gateway if that helps.(i think jabil made it, never heard of them before.)

P3 500mhz,256megs-o-ram pc100,Gainward GeForce3 GS,Sound Blaster Live value,dont know what kind of mobo, 40 gb hd 7200,Plextor Plexwriter 40/12/40a cd burner

Redstone · Dec 19, 2002, 08:16 PM

If it is a Gateway, you will not be able to easily overclock it, or overclock at all. Branded computer motherboards come with the bios menu that adjusts the Front Side Bus completely blocked out. There are some software programs that may be used as a work around but I have not tried any of them. (SoftFSB, CPUcool, among others). Or maybe some one here knows how to edit the bios? This is not something I am familar with.

Another option would be buying a good old cheap slot1 board like mine. You can't go wrong with either the Abit BE6-II 2.0 or Asus P3B-F Rev 1.03 or later.

Hopefully someone else here can give you fix. Good Luck

ToshiroOC · Dec 27, 2002, 01:03 AM

I would be interested in what people have to say. My computer lab let me salvage a p2 400 with a 440bx abit mobo from the to-throw-away heap, and I already have a psu and 4gb seagate lined up for it, just need a case, ram, and vid card, and im set... to overclock! this will be one card i couldn't really care less about toasting though too much overclocking, since p2 400's abound online for under $30...

JCLW · Dec 27, 2002, 04:01 PM

I've had a PIII-500 running in a P3B-F @ 600 (120FSB) for about two and a half years now (stock heatsink and voltage). Most BX boards in fact did not have overclocking settings in the BIOS. If you got a later Abit or Asus board you might be lucky, but 80% of boards only have jumper settings.

Most 0.25 Katmai cores (like that PIII-500) would do 600~650mhz. The L2 ram chips (located next to the processor on the cartridge) are usually the limiting factor. If you want to get the most out of the processor consider cutting up an old 486 heatsink into pieces and sticking them on with AS epxoy.

The 0.35 Klamath PII cores (PII 233~300) usually tops out at 450~500mhz. The 0.25 Deschutes PII core (PII-333~450) usually tops out at 550~600mhz. Again heatsinks on the L2 ram will help.

It depends on the boards you guys have, but most later i440BX boards will run Tualatin Celerons if you guys ever want a cheap upgrade.

- JW

ToshiroOC · Dec 28, 2002, 01:31 AM

Thanks for the information man! It was really useful. On my 440bx, I'm not seeing any way to change the voltage (so what, I wasn't around during the old skool stuffs

) Are volt mods done to the chip directly, or should I keep searching in the bios/unlabeled jumpers for volt options? Thanks for any help you can provide!

JCLW · Dec 28, 2002, 02:05 AM

If you can't find anything on the board you can do it on the SECC cartridge.

Who makes the board? What model? (Usually printed between the PCI slots)

What is the sSpec of the CPU? It will be a five digit code that starts with SL _ _ _ printed on the cartridge.

- JW

ToshiroOC · Dec 28, 2002, 06:22 AM

Sorry, but I'm not at home right now - I'm 500 miles away visiting relatives and 500 miles away from my baby... I did that voltage stuffs a couple of weeks ago and I've thought over what I did and can't really think of anything else... I know for a fact that my motherboard was an Abit BP6 (not the second version as far as I can tell)... I don't know the spec on the CPU, I'll check when I get home...

Dec 18, 2002, 09:27 PM	#1
BurL Liver SUCKS!!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Old School Mobo o/c help I have a old school 440bx mobo, p3 500mhz, 256megs-o-ram, agp 2x with a gainward gf3 golden sample. I want o/c my mobo, but i need help on how to do it.

Dec 18, 2002, 09:32 PM	#2
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Yup I have a 440bx running a p2 400.... (server) I have overclocked it many-a time .... ask away my friend.... MadGoat __________________

Dec 18, 2002, 09:33 PM	#3
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Ok, we'll need more info. Specifically what brand/model your mobo is. If you don't know, copy down it's BIOS ID as it boots up and I'll try back-tracing it thru that. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Dec 18, 2002, 09:35 PM	#4
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	most likly will ahve a bios clock... not jumper... ther bx's normaly started with the bios enabled clocking... __________________

Dec 18, 2002, 11:33 PM	#5
Redstone CEO Vandelay Industries Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Left Coast Posts: 176 Rep Power: 0	Really do need to know what type of MOBO, and CPU cooling you have to get you started. If you have a jumperless set up it will be easy once you understand the basics. I had the PIII 500 Front Side Bus running at 112x5=560 for about 2 years with a low end heatsink and cheap ram. I used this general guide to get started. There is a wealth of info on the net. Overclocking a PIII __________________ [COLOR=#66ccff]Intel [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]PIV - 3.0e @ [COLOR=darkorange]3.39[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Cooled by[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]SWIftech [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]MCX4000[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Asus[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]P4P800 SE[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Powered by[/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff] Antec [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]TruePower 430[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Kingston [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Hyperx 4x512MB - PC3200 - 2.5-3-3-8 @ 1:1 timings [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]ATI [/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]Radeon X1950 Pro AGP - Omega Drivers 3.8.421 (Cat 7.10) displayed on a [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Samsung[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]930B LCD[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Creative [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Sound Blaster Audigy 4[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Win[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]XP Home stored on a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Western Digital[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]1200GB Sata with a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Seagate[/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna]10GB Barracuda IV Slave[/COLOR]

Dec 19, 2002, 03:08 AM	Thread Starter #6
BurL Liver SUCKS!!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	MY BIOS ID Here is my bios id 4W4SBOXO.15A.0019.P14 I got it from gateway if that helps.(i think jabil made it, never heard of them before.) P3 500mhz,256megs-o-ram pc100,Gainward GeForce3 GS,Sound Blaster Live value,dont know what kind of mobo, 40 gb hd 7200,Plextor Plexwriter 40/12/40a cd burner Last edited by BurL; Dec 19, 2002 at 07:36 AM.

Dec 19, 2002, 08:16 PM	#7
Redstone CEO Vandelay Industries Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Left Coast Posts: 176 Rep Power: 0	If it is a Gateway, you will not be able to easily overclock it, or overclock at all. Branded computer motherboards come with the bios menu that adjusts the Front Side Bus completely blocked out. There are some software programs that may be used as a work around but I have not tried any of them. (SoftFSB, CPUcool, among others). Or maybe some one here knows how to edit the bios? This is not something I am familar with. Another option would be buying a good old cheap slot1 board like mine. You can't go wrong with either the Abit BE6-II 2.0 or Asus P3B-F Rev 1.03 or later. Hopefully someone else here can give you fix. Good Luck __________________ [COLOR=#66ccff]Intel [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]PIV - 3.0e @ [COLOR=darkorange]3.39[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Cooled by[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]SWIftech [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]MCX4000[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Asus[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]P4P800 SE[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Powered by[/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff] Antec [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]TruePower 430[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Kingston [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Hyperx 4x512MB - PC3200 - 2.5-3-3-8 @ 1:1 timings [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]ATI [/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]Radeon X1950 Pro AGP - Omega Drivers 3.8.421 (Cat 7.10) displayed on a [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Samsung[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]930B LCD[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Creative [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Sound Blaster Audigy 4[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Win[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]XP Home stored on a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Western Digital[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]1200GB Sata with a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Seagate[/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna]10GB Barracuda IV Slave[/COLOR]

Dec 27, 2002, 01:03 AM	#8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I would be interested in what people have to say. My computer lab let me salvage a p2 400 with a 440bx abit mobo from the to-throw-away heap, and I already have a psu and 4gb seagate lined up for it, just need a case, ram, and vid card, and im set... to overclock! this will be one card i couldn't really care less about toasting though too much overclocking, since p2 400's abound online for under $30... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 27, 2002, 04:01 PM	#9
JCLW Long Live The P6! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I've had a PIII-500 running in a P3B-F @ 600 (120FSB) for about two and a half years now (stock heatsink and voltage). Most BX boards in fact did not have overclocking settings in the BIOS. If you got a later Abit or Asus board you might be lucky, but 80% of boards only have jumper settings. Most 0.25 Katmai cores (like that PIII-500) would do 600~650mhz. The L2 ram chips (located next to the processor on the cartridge) are usually the limiting factor. If you want to get the most out of the processor consider cutting up an old 486 heatsink into pieces and sticking them on with AS epxoy. The 0.35 Klamath PII cores (PII 233~300) usually tops out at 450~500mhz. The 0.25 Deschutes PII core (PII-333~450) usually tops out at 550~600mhz. Again heatsinks on the L2 ram will help. It depends on the boards you guys have, but most later i440BX boards will run Tualatin Celerons if you guys ever want a cheap upgrade. - JW

Dec 28, 2002, 01:31 AM	#10
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the information man! It was really useful. On my 440bx, I'm not seeing any way to change the voltage (so what, I wasn't around during the old skool stuffs ) Are volt mods done to the chip directly, or should I keep searching in the bios/unlabeled jumpers for volt options? Thanks for any help you can provide! __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 28, 2002, 02:05 AM	#11
JCLW Long Live The P6! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	If you can't find anything on the board you can do it on the SECC cartridge. Who makes the board? What model? (Usually printed between the PCI slots) What is the sSpec of the CPU? It will be a five digit code that starts with SL _ _ _ printed on the cartridge. - JW

Dec 28, 2002, 06:22 AM	#12
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Sorry, but I'm not at home right now - I'm 500 miles away visiting relatives and 500 miles away from my baby... I did that voltage stuffs a couple of weeks ago and I've thought over what I did and can't really think of anything else... I know for a fact that my motherboard was an Abit BP6 (not the second version as far as I can tell)... I don't know the spec on the CPU, I'll check when I get home... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)