Wind tunnel Case cooling

Madgoat1979 · Dec 19, 2002, 09:57 PM

Case Cooling using external air supply...

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/crunch...web%20page.htm

should help some people, and this is only an Idea. This is meant to be elaborated on.

Thanks to Digi for helping me figure this out!

Zarathustra · Dec 19, 2002, 11:39 PM

It has to be formatted in UBB/vB code. Basically just make the guide into one huge post

Madgoat1979 · Dec 20, 2002, 06:33 PM

Its up, and you can take a look at the cooling idea....

digitalwanderer · Dec 20, 2002, 06:44 PM

It's certainly not as ugly as my solution, but why does everyone insist on using them traditional little fans?!?

Nice job Madgoat!

Madgoat1979 · Dec 20, 2002, 06:52 PM

THANKS!

Dec 20, 2002, 07:40 PM

I hope you can accept some constructive critisism.

Basicly its an Good Idea for the mild seasons of the year .

But running it in Winter or mid-summer aint gonna go so good.

Winter usage will introduce alot of damp air into your case..........i dont think it will be so good for your rig.
Second im sure its not going to be so good for you in cold days to have the window open...brrrrr.

In summer its common knowledge that in the shade the temp is
lower.
Basicly that means that the inside temps of your home/office are lower so bringing in air from outside will have a reverse effect.

So basicly a Cooling Mod like that has to carefully used.

The best low cost solution that i can think of is basiclly to have a correct intake and good direction of air to components and a strong exhaust to get the warm air out.

One of the best ways to mod ones case for better cooling is
first to install a fan at the TOP of the case (a 120mm) cause as we all know hot air rises.
Second one or two 80mm intake fans at the side panel (here you can attach some PVC piping to direct air to a) the vidcard and b) next to the cpu(not directly at it).

Another way to make it even better is to attach some kind of piping to the CPU HS/fan and direct the hot air out of your case that way your keeping your overall case temps down.
I did this once and i bent the pipe towards the back of the case where i attached it to a smaller 60mm fan that also pulled outwards.

Ok enough of that....

And BTW the constuction of your MOD was very neat .
Good work !

Madgoat1979 · Dec 20, 2002, 07:53 PM

Yeah, I thought about the season prob...

but... I have done some tests with just using regular "room" air.

i still get some good cooling when I place the intake fan on the floor behind my desk.... It seems to make it cool enough for some 80' temps...

And yes!! I love the input on this... Im trying to figure out a way now to "create" my own cool air for this idea. (for use when it turns into summer)

I live in Tucson... so In the summer it aint gonna be so good to give my comp 105 degree AIR! haha...

the fact is, with this system ... you need to have GREAT exhaust in the case... negitive is the goal...

with back pressure the air doesnt want to come "in" through this intake, but rather wants to escape.....

Thanks GreekRage.

DriveEuro · Dec 20, 2002, 08:12 PM

Greek.......winter air in not damp....it is dry.... Why is there a lot of static and why do you get shocked in the winter...cuz it is dry. Why does long hair become staticy and stand on end....cuz it is dry.

DriveEuro · Dec 20, 2002, 08:14 PM

Yo madgoat.....at the bottom of your page you say that the server fan pulgs into a "120w" outlet.....don't you mean 120 VOLT?

Madgoat1979 · Dec 20, 2002, 08:15 PM

good thought.......... Ehhh, in any matter... still not good to have the inside of your case exposed to the elements..... ;-)

Dec 20, 2002, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Greek.......winter air in not damp....it is dry.... Why is there a lot of static and why do you get shocked in the winter...cuz it is dry. Why does long hair become staticy and stand on end....cuz it is dry.

Sorry to have to correct you friend but im sure you didnt think before replying did you ??

So your saying that in the winter (btw winter= RAIN and SNOW)
the air doesnt get damp ???????

Well maybe.......in Africa...hehehe

DriveEuro · Dec 20, 2002, 08:35 PM

Well, where I live in it gets dry as fuck. Skin is always dry and chapped.

Madgoat1979 · Dec 20, 2002, 08:38 PM

same here, we dont get much water... (the desert thing... you know)..........

DriveEuro · Dec 20, 2002, 09:27 PM

I see that you still have that white sticker on the back side of your card that says not to remove or warranty is void. I still haven't ripped that little bitch off either.

Madgoat1979 · Dec 21, 2002, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Yo madgoat.....at the bottom of your page you say that the server fan pulgs into a "120w" outlet.....don't you mean 120 VOLT?

yes, your right... I meant 120v .......

ToshiroOC · Dec 27, 2002, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
It's certainly not as ugly as my solution, but why does everyone insist on using them traditional little fans?!? Nice job Madgoat!

Brings up a question I've always had - do fans that work off of AC power (120v wall current) throw off a lot of EMI? Like, if you held one next to an unshielded TV, would it change colors? That sort of thing. EMI is rather unhealthy for computers and hard drives and monitors, but I've always wanted one of those 120v 500cfm 16cm fans sumliminalpr0nmessage
ToshiroOC

Madgoat1979 · Dec 27, 2002, 03:56 AM

The fan that i used for this project didnt do anything to me monitor or effect the board.... I dont think the fan would have much more EMI than your Power unit its self... after all, its just a ball bearing fan too...

Dec 19, 2002, 09:57 PM	#1
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Wind tunnel Case cooling Case Cooling using external air supply... http://mywebpages.comcast.net/crunch...web%20page.htm should help some people, and this is only an Idea. This is meant to be elaborated on. Thanks to Digi for helping me figure this out! __________________ Last edited by Madgoat1979; Dec 20, 2002 at 06:31 PM.

Dec 20, 2002, 06:33 PM	Thread Starter #3
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Thanks Its up, and you can take a look at the cooling idea.... __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 06:44 PM	#4
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Nice! It's certainly not as ugly as my solution, but why does everyone insist on using them traditional little fans?!? Nice job Madgoat! __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Dec 20, 2002, 06:52 PM	Thread Starter #5
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hehe THANKS! __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 07:53 PM	Thread Starter #7
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Yeah, I thought about the season prob... but... I have done some tests with just using regular "room" air. i still get some good cooling when I place the intake fan on the floor behind my desk.... It seems to make it cool enough for some 80' temps... And yes!! I love the input on this... Im trying to figure out a way now to "create" my own cool air for this idea. (for use when it turns into summer) I live in Tucson... so In the summer it aint gonna be so good to give my comp 105 degree AIR! haha... the fact is, with this system ... you need to have GREAT exhaust in the case... negitive is the goal... with back pressure the air doesnt want to come "in" through this intake, but rather wants to escape..... Thanks GreekRage. __________________

Dec 19, 2002, 11:39 PM	#2
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	It has to be formatted in UBB/vB code. Basically just make the guide into one huge post

Dec 20, 2002, 07:40 PM	#6
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	I hope you can accept some constructive critisism. Basicly its an Good Idea for the mild seasons of the year . But running it in Winter or mid-summer aint gonna go so good. Winter usage will introduce alot of damp air into your case..........i dont think it will be so good for your rig. Second im sure its not going to be so good for you in cold days to have the window open...brrrrr. In summer its common knowledge that in the shade the temp is lower. Basicly that means that the inside temps of your home/office are lower so bringing in air from outside will have a reverse effect. So basicly a Cooling Mod like that has to carefully used. The best low cost solution that i can think of is basiclly to have a correct intake and good direction of air to components and a strong exhaust to get the warm air out. One of the best ways to mod ones case for better cooling is first to install a fan at the TOP of the case (a 120mm) cause as we all know hot air rises. Second one or two 80mm intake fans at the side panel (here you can attach some PVC piping to direct air to a) the vidcard and b) next to the cpu(not directly at it). Another way to make it even better is to attach some kind of piping to the CPU HS/fan and direct the hot air out of your case that way your keeping your overall case temps down. I did this once and i bent the pipe towards the back of the case where i attached it to a smaller 60mm fan that also pulled outwards. Ok enough of that.... And BTW the constuction of your MOD was very neat . Good work !

Dec 20, 2002, 08:12 PM	#8
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Greek.......winter air in not damp....it is dry.... Why is there a lot of static and why do you get shocked in the winter...cuz it is dry. Why does long hair become staticy and stand on end....cuz it is dry. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Dec 20, 2002, 08:14 PM	#9
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Yo madgoat.....at the bottom of your page you say that the server fan pulgs into a "120w" outlet.....don't you mean 120 VOLT? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Dec 20, 2002, 08:15 PM	Thread Starter #10
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	good thought.......... Ehhh, in any matter... still not good to have the inside of your case exposed to the elements..... ;-) __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 08:35 PM	#12
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, where I live in it gets dry as fuck. Skin is always dry and chapped. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Dec 20, 2002, 08:38 PM	Thread Starter #13
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	same here, we dont get much water... (the desert thing... you know).......... __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 09:27 PM	#14
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I see that you still have that white sticker on the back side of your card that says not to remove or warranty is void. I still haven't ripped that little bitch off either. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Dec 27, 2002, 03:56 AM	Thread Starter #17
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	not that I've seen The fan that i used for this project didnt do anything to me monitor or effect the board.... I dont think the fan would have much more EMI than your Power unit its self... after all, its just a ball bearing fan too... __________________