ATi 8500 - Over 300/300 worth it?

Mystik · Jan 3, 2003, 10:51 AM

Hey guys..

I got an ATi 8500le 128mb a few weeks ago and I have it stable
at 300/300.. I was wondering if it's worth going over that?

I'm thinking of doing a small mod (changing HSF to Crystal Orb),
but not for the sake of pushing it farther, but to keep it as cool
as I can.. i guess, stability purposes..

But with anyone who can get higher than 300/300 (say, 320/320)
is there a noticable difference?

Hell, is there a difference between 275/275 and 300/300? I'd
do the testing myself right now, except it's 6am and i'm getting
pretty tired.. i'm hoping that someone out there has done these
tests before and remembers some of their conclusions.. =)

thanks..

janusz · Jan 3, 2003, 04:31 PM

yeah i used to have a 8500.. and ran it at 310/305.. i did notice a difference. and the higer mem clock made a diff

Chrille · Jan 3, 2003, 04:37 PM

I Could run my PoV Radeon 8500 with ATI BIOS at 315/305

janusz · Jan 3, 2003, 04:38 PM

great! if its stable then go ahead.. i mean the 8500 is great but is dying so every last mhz count now

Mystik · Jan 3, 2003, 08:57 PM

315/305!

If I clock my mem higher than 300, i get corruption after a few
hours of gaming.. if I clock my core higher than 300, i get
hardlocks after a few hours..

extra cooling would help this situation, right?

Zardon · Jan 3, 2003, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mystik
315/305!

If I clock my mem higher than 300, i get corruption after a few
hours of gaming.. if I clock my core higher than 300, i get
hardlocks after a few hours..

extra cooling would help this situation, right?

most certainly yes, that and a volt mod. really I dont know if its worth the hassle, id save a little, sell the card and get something newer/more powerful. just my opinion.

Mystik · Jan 4, 2003, 12:27 AM

heehehe..
Your opinion is worth a lot, but i'm a hyper budget person.. =P
It took me a while to get this 8500 (only $145cad), and I had
to suffer about a month of some old PCI card because I had sold
my original 7500 to save up for this..

I'd love to get a newer card.. say, a 9500 (i've seen what those
9k's can do.. which is nothing. imho, of course).. but i'd have to
save up for a while. =P

I have no job, yet. =P

No_Style · Jan 4, 2003, 03:39 AM

Now it's like nothing

? Don't forget your ROOTS!! LOL

DaSnIpE · Jan 4, 2003, 03:54 AM

LoL, I still got 1 at home, and yea, 300/300 is nice for normal use, push it higher if u wanna bench.

Zardon · Jan 4, 2003, 10:34 AM

I certainly didnt mean to give the impression I think the 8500 is worth nothing. after all I owned one for 6-8 months and had alot of fun gaming/dual monitor with it. a great card. im also aware that alot of people dont have the finances to chop and change cards every time a new one is released.

the point I was attempting to make was that most of them hit around 300/300 or 295/295 without much work as long as your case has adequate cooling. to start hitting 320+ speeds you really need to start getting into hardcore cooling/volt modding.

personally I dont think the work/performance ratio for the slightly improved benches is worth it. Of course this is not taking into consideration the PC, "do it yourself" factor which is also fun, such as volt modding, adding hard core cooling etc. but be aware if you are on a budget and cant afford a higher end card, that if you do mess something up when attempting either of the above you will more than likely end up with no video card at all.

I always err on the side of caution with modding hardware, especially for those inexperienced users who could possibly end up with something ruined.

the 8500 still performs well at stock or even 290/290ish speeds, still IMO a better card than any GF3.

Vampyromaniac · Jan 4, 2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by janusz
P4 2.26B @ 3.2GHz 17x194
3 Radeon 9700's @ 400/775

Heh, long time since you last posted

WoW! That's some OC'ing there, esp the 9700!!!
400/775 ?? Holy Jeebus!

janusz · Jan 7, 2003, 03:51 AM

ohh thats old.. heh im way past 500+ mhz on core with ln2 and a crazy volt mod.. but run it daily at 450

Mystik · Jan 7, 2003, 04:46 AM

Geez, that's some crazy overclocking there..
Just having a 9700 would be fast enough for me..

but then, i said that before I got the 8500..

I think i'll just leave it at 300/300.. maybe take off the stock hsf
and reapply it with some as adhesive..

janusz · Jan 7, 2003, 09:29 PM

adhesive would be the best thing.. 300/300 is just fine good job and happy overclockin

sh_polinatora · Jan 8, 2003, 01:48 PM

I have an AIW 8500
it is very good
and now is time to overclock it

since all you guyz have good exp. about the card
i will take a step

Jan 3, 2003, 10:51 AM	#1
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	ATi 8500 - Over 300/300 worth it? Hey guys.. I got an ATi 8500le 128mb a few weeks ago and I have it stable at 300/300.. I was wondering if it's worth going over that? I'm thinking of doing a small mod (changing HSF to Crystal Orb), but not for the sake of pushing it farther, but to keep it as cool as I can.. i guess, stability purposes.. But with anyone who can get higher than 300/300 (say, 320/320) is there a noticable difference? Hell, is there a difference between 275/275 and 300/300? I'd do the testing myself right now, except it's 6am and i'm getting pretty tired.. i'm hoping that someone out there has done these tests before and remembers some of their conclusions.. =) thanks.. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Jan 3, 2003, 04:31 PM	#2
janusz Abit Staff Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	yeah i used to have a 8500.. and ran it at 310/305.. i did notice a difference. and the higer mem clock made a diff __________________ P4 3.06 @ 3.8GHz ABIT-BE7-G 512 pc 3500 3 Radeon 9700's @ 445/775 audigy 2 2X 200 WD special edition HDD's KURWA

Jan 3, 2003, 04:37 PM	#3
Chrille DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	Radeon 8500 I Could run my PoV Radeon 8500 with ATI BIOS at 315/305

Jan 3, 2003, 04:38 PM	#4
janusz Abit Staff Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	great! if its stable then go ahead.. i mean the 8500 is great but is dying so every last mhz count now __________________ P4 3.06 @ 3.8GHz ABIT-BE7-G 512 pc 3500 3 Radeon 9700's @ 445/775 audigy 2 2X 200 WD special edition HDD's KURWA

Jan 3, 2003, 08:57 PM	Thread Starter #5
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	315/305! If I clock my mem higher than 300, i get corruption after a few hours of gaming.. if I clock my core higher than 300, i get hardlocks after a few hours.. extra cooling would help this situation, right? __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Jan 4, 2003, 12:27 AM	Thread Starter #7
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	heehehe.. Your opinion is worth a lot, but i'm a hyper budget person.. =P It took me a while to get this 8500 (only $145cad), and I had to suffer about a month of some old PCI card because I had sold my original 7500 to save up for this.. I'd love to get a newer card.. say, a 9500 (i've seen what those 9k's can do.. which is nothing. imho, of course).. but i'd have to save up for a while. =P I have no job, yet. =P __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Jan 4, 2003, 03:39 AM	#8
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Dude...8500s were all over this board. Now it's like nothing ? Don't forget your ROOTS!! LOL __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jan 4, 2003, 03:54 AM	#9
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	LoL, I still got 1 at home, and yea, 300/300 is nice for normal use, push it higher if u wanna bench. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 4, 2003, 10:34 AM	#10
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I certainly didnt mean to give the impression I think the 8500 is worth nothing. after all I owned one for 6-8 months and had alot of fun gaming/dual monitor with it. a great card. im also aware that alot of people dont have the finances to chop and change cards every time a new one is released. the point I was attempting to make was that most of them hit around 300/300 or 295/295 without much work as long as your case has adequate cooling. to start hitting 320+ speeds you really need to start getting into hardcore cooling/volt modding. personally I dont think the work/performance ratio for the slightly improved benches is worth it. Of course this is not taking into consideration the PC, "do it yourself" factor which is also fun, such as volt modding, adding hard core cooling etc. but be aware if you are on a budget and cant afford a higher end card, that if you do mess something up when attempting either of the above you will more than likely end up with no video card at all. I always err on the side of caution with modding hardware, especially for those inexperienced users who could possibly end up with something ruined. the 8500 still performs well at stock or even 290/290ish speeds, still IMO a better card than any GF3.

Jan 7, 2003, 03:51 AM	#12
janusz Abit Staff Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	ohh thats old.. heh im way past 500+ mhz on core with ln2 and a crazy volt mod.. but run it daily at 450 __________________ P4 3.06 @ 3.8GHz ABIT-BE7-G 512 pc 3500 3 Radeon 9700's @ 445/775 audigy 2 2X 200 WD special edition HDD's KURWA

Jan 7, 2003, 04:46 AM	Thread Starter #13
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Geez, that's some crazy overclocking there.. Just having a 9700 would be fast enough for me.. but then, i said that before I got the 8500.. I think i'll just leave it at 300/300.. maybe take off the stock hsf and reapply it with some as adhesive.. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Jan 7, 2003, 09:29 PM	#14
janusz Abit Staff Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	adhesive would be the best thing.. 300/300 is just fine good job and happy overclockin __________________ P4 3.06 @ 3.8GHz ABIT-BE7-G 512 pc 3500 3 Radeon 9700's @ 445/775 audigy 2 2X 200 WD special edition HDD's KURWA

Jan 8, 2003, 01:48 PM	#15
sh_polinatora DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	8500 rules I have an AIW 8500 it is very good and now is time to overclock it since all you guyz have good exp. about the card i will take a step