How to get a Palamino to run 166 ?

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 10:56 PM

So I see that you can modfiy the L12 bridges on a T-Bred to get a default clock speed of 166.... Can anything like this be done to a Palamino? I ask because my mobo is divider locked. By divider locked I mean that I can only clock from 133 mhz up to 165....no higher.

Thanks in advance.

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 10, 2003, 11:06 PM

even if u change the deafult fsb to 166 the divider isnt gonna change to 1/5 if there isnt that option on your board. your pci speeds will be dangerously out of spec

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 11:13 PM

Geez......not what I am looking for... If I can get the chip to make the MOBO think that it is a 166 speed chip then I can work with a 166mhz CPU clock rather than the 133 clock i have now. So look at it this way. Right now I am restricted to 133-165 mhz * multiplier.... I would rather have 166 - 199 mhz...See? If I could modify the chip via the L bridges then that would be perfect! But that's what I need. Does anyone know how to do it?

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 10, 2003, 11:17 PM

you will need to unlock your chip first anyways as you wont hit that fsb speed without reducing the multiplier first, so i think you should unlock the chip, go down to 11x multiplier, and set your fsb to 165 and see if your 1/5 pci divider kicks in (it should at that speed, if its automatic, and available on the board).

if that works, then you can look into it further

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 11:19 PM

I have it unlocked....

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 10, 2003, 11:21 PM

and does your machine run without probs at 165x11 ??

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 11:24 PM

didn't try yet.....but you just don't understand what I am trying to do. The divider won't "kick in" cuz there is no divider... It is already locked. If you run a chip with a 133 clock then the max you can pump up the clock is 165. So by me clocking it at 165 won't do ANYTHING for me.

edit: look at it this way. My mobo senses the default clock of the cpu, (either 100, 133, 166) and then sets the divider to that speed. So if i set it to 165 then the divider is still the same. I can't type in 166 because it is out of the possible ranges for that divider..

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 10, 2003, 11:28 PM

yea but i dont think you get what im saying, if you dont have a 1/5 pci divider on your board, then your pci speeds will be running at 1/4 so 166/4 = 41.5MHz which is way over spec (33.3MHz) and is almost guranteed to cause major instability problems with your rig. therefore forcing a 166MHz bus speed will be of absolutely no benefit to you.

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 11:31 PM

DAMNIT you can't read........sorry but YOU! aren't understanding me. Yes my PCI speeds and AGP speeds are high outta spec right now at 150x11..... But I am asking someone, i guess not you, if i can modify the L bridges to make a 166 clock.....my mobo recognizes the processor as a 166 bus then i can use the numbers 166 - 199.......get it? wow... it is so simple what I am saying. and what you are saying has next to no precedence here.

DriveEuro · Jan 10, 2003, 11:36 PM

Take a look at this thread....then click on the first link..... http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...&threadid=8676 . I want to do something similar to this on my Palamino. I know that this is for T-Breds. But I am wondering if there is something similar to this that can be done to a Palamino.....THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW!

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 12:12 PM

What motherboard are you speaking of? Evidently not the Abit NF7....

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 12:30 PM

OK, I did some searching, and some chatting with people that own GB motherboards, and this is what one of the replies that I got said:

In order to kick the 1/5 divider in, you must change your fsb to 153, save and reboot, go into the bios again and raise it to whatever you want, and the 1/5 will be working, but you must go 153, 1**, in that order or it won't work.

Good Luck,
John-Paul

This is according to John-Paul over at AMDMB.com

I dont know if it works... but it is worth a shot.

Hope that is some kind of help :P

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 12:39 PM

The other possability is that his 2000+ is not a palomino, but a T-Bred. Now enough of these double posts. Please keep everything in one thread. Not too... There is a such a thing as a BUMP! :P

shuki · Jan 23, 2003, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
What motherboard are you speaking of? Evidently not the Abit NF7....

that is my exact thinking as I just popped into this thread...

and euro, stop dupe posting!!! you only confuse us and hurt yourself.. please keep it in one.

/me puts on mod suit and merges threads

DriveEuro · Jan 23, 2003, 03:03 PM

Dupe posting of what? I don't have that motherboard anymore anyways. I am running the ABIT NF7 for 2 weeks.

shuki · Jan 23, 2003, 03:31 PM

this plus this equals dupe thread

so you are claiming that your new NF7 will not run a Palamino chip up over 165 fsb?

DriveEuro · Jan 23, 2003, 03:39 PM

No, if you read the inital post.....dated 13 days ago. EH!!!!!!! Blah. Close the thread. It is of no value.

shuki · Jan 23, 2003, 04:12 PM

both threads were started the same day...

so you have a new mobo now and your question no longer applies?

Jan 10, 2003, 10:56 PM	#1
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	How to get a Palamino to run 166 ? So I see that you can modfiy the L12 bridges on a T-Bred to get a default clock speed of 166.... Can anything like this be done to a Palamino? I ask because my mobo is divider locked. By divider locked I mean that I can only clock from 133 mhz up to 165....no higher. Thanks in advance. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 10, 2003, 11:06 PM	#2
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	even if u change the deafult fsb to 166 the divider isnt gonna change to 1/5 if there isnt that option on your board. your pci speeds will be dangerously out of spec __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 10, 2003, 11:13 PM	Thread Starter #3
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Geez......not what I am looking for... If I can get the chip to make the MOBO think that it is a 166 speed chip then I can work with a 166mhz CPU clock rather than the 133 clock i have now. So look at it this way. Right now I am restricted to 133-165 mhz * multiplier.... I would rather have 166 - 199 mhz...See? If I could modify the chip via the L bridges then that would be perfect! But that's what I need. Does anyone know how to do it? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 10, 2003, 11:17 PM	#4
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	you will need to unlock your chip first anyways as you wont hit that fsb speed without reducing the multiplier first, so i think you should unlock the chip, go down to 11x multiplier, and set your fsb to 165 and see if your 1/5 pci divider kicks in (it should at that speed, if its automatic, and available on the board). if that works, then you can look into it further __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 10, 2003, 11:19 PM	Thread Starter #5
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I have it unlocked.... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 10, 2003, 11:21 PM	#6
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	and does your machine run without probs at 165x11 ?? __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 10, 2003, 11:24 PM	Thread Starter #7
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	didn't try yet.....but you just don't understand what I am trying to do. The divider won't "kick in" cuz there is no divider... It is already locked. If you run a chip with a 133 clock then the max you can pump up the clock is 165. So by me clocking it at 165 won't do ANYTHING for me. edit: look at it this way. My mobo senses the default clock of the cpu, (either 100, 133, 166) and then sets the divider to that speed. So if i set it to 165 then the divider is still the same. I can't type in 166 because it is out of the possible ranges for that divider.. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 10, 2003, 11:28 PM	#8
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	yea but i dont think you get what im saying, if you dont have a 1/5 pci divider on your board, then your pci speeds will be running at 1/4 so 166/4 = 41.5MHz which is way over spec (33.3MHz) and is almost guranteed to cause major instability problems with your rig. therefore forcing a 166MHz bus speed will be of absolutely no benefit to you. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 10, 2003, 11:31 PM	Thread Starter #9
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	DAMNIT you can't read........sorry but YOU! aren't understanding me. Yes my PCI speeds and AGP speeds are high outta spec right now at 150x11..... But I am asking someone, i guess not you, if i can modify the L bridges to make a 166 clock.....my mobo recognizes the processor as a 166 bus then i can use the numbers 166 - 199.......get it? wow... it is so simple what I am saying. and what you are saying has next to no precedence here. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 10, 2003, 11:36 PM	Thread Starter #10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Check this out. Take a look at this thread....then click on the first link..... http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...&threadid=8676 . I want to do something similar to this on my Palamino. I know that this is for T-Breds. But I am wondering if there is something similar to this that can be done to a Palamino.....THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW! __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 23, 2003, 12:12 PM	#11
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	What motherboard are you speaking of? Evidently not the Abit NF7....

Jan 23, 2003, 12:30 PM	#12
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	OK, I did some searching, and some chatting with people that own GB motherboards, and this is what one of the replies that I got said: In order to kick the 1/5 divider in, you must change your fsb to 153, save and reboot, go into the bios again and raise it to whatever you want, and the 1/5 will be working, but you must go 153, 1**, in that order or it won't work. Good Luck, John-Paul This is according to John-Paul over at AMDMB.com I dont know if it works... but it is worth a shot. Hope that is some kind of help :P

Jan 23, 2003, 12:39 PM	#13
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	The other possability is that his 2000+ is not a palomino, but a T-Bred. Now enough of these double posts. Please keep everything in one thread. Not too... There is a such a thing as a BUMP! :P

Jan 23, 2003, 03:03 PM	Thread Starter #15
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dupe posting of what? I don't have that motherboard anymore anyways. I am running the ABIT NF7 for 2 weeks. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 23, 2003, 03:31 PM	#16
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	this plus this equals dupe thread so you are claiming that your new NF7 will not run a Palamino chip up over 165 fsb?

Jan 23, 2003, 03:39 PM	Thread Starter #17
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	No, if you read the inital post.....dated 13 days ago. EH!!!!!!! Blah. Close the thread. It is of no value. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 23, 2003, 04:12 PM	#18
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	both threads were started the same day... so you have a new mobo now and your question no longer applies?