Wire trick to change the FSB of a Palamino to 166

DriveEuro · Jan 11, 2003, 08:48 PM

So I was poking around VIA Arena forums and I find a person who has a Palamino 2000 running a 166 bus. But he has the same mobo as me and as I know there is no way to change bios settings to get that 166 bus. I am awaiting a response from him to see how he did it.

Here's the link http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...15&STARTPAGE=2
He posted half way down the page with a yellow Nuclear icon as his avatar...name is BlueFrogCS

I am assuming that he tried this trick

but I don't know until he responds to me. Anyone know how he got a 166 bus on a Palamino on a mobo that won't let you change it to 166?

Thanks.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 12, 2003, 01:44 AM

It looks like your mobo does support 333fsb processors. http://www.giga-byte.com/products/7vax.htm

DriveEuro · Jan 12, 2003, 08:43 AM

Yes, I know that.... no offense... but that is the exact function I am trying to utilize. I need to make my CPU be 166 bus so that the mobo auto detects it as 166 mhz. And the problem is that the manual is misleading...the 7VAX doesn't have that second jumper at SW1 that forces the 166 bus (don't know if it FORCES it, but it enables it)....the deal is that I want my processor to run a 166 bus as default so I actaully can have a 333 FSB.

DriveEuro · Jan 12, 2003, 08:56 AM

I cannot just simply raise the cpu clock to 166. The mobo auto senses the default CPU clock. Either 100, 133, 166. In my case 133. Because of the 133 speed I can only raise the CPU clock to 165mhz ... The divider is locked per clock stepping (100, 133, 166). Therefore when I overlock the AGP and PCI get way out of spec. I cannot overclock my CPU to 166 on this board and get another divider. The only way is to get the mobo to think that the CPU has a default bus of 166.

DriveEuro · Jan 12, 2003, 10:06 PM

Anyone got a clue? I hate the fact that this motherboard will not allow me to clock above 165.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 13, 2003, 04:25 PM

http://www.hard-forum.com/forums/sho...?threadid=3041 maybe that will help you.

DriveEuro · Jan 13, 2003, 05:03 PM

Well, wyre.....If I was a registered user it would help....eh, time to register I guess.

edit: HAHHAHAHHAA. I go to the forum and guess who is the newest member....wyrethewolf. hehe

edits again: NONONONONOOOOOOOOOO!! These are the threads that I orginated my question from. But if you read closely the trick only works on T-Breds.....why? Cuz Palamino has no L12 bridges.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 12:32 PM

The following is according to John-Paul over at AMDMB.com:

In order to kick the 1/5 divider in, you must change your fsb to 153, save and reboot, go into the bios again and raise it to whatever you want, and the 1/5 will be working, but you must go 153, 1**, in that order or it won't work.

Good Luck,
John-Paul

I hoipe that helps some.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 12:38 PM

another thing that is entirely possible.. is that his 2000+ is a T-Bred

RIV@NVX · Jan 24, 2003, 10:48 AM

Does this - change to 153 and then more works on KT3 the same way?

qwertrewq · Jan 26, 2003, 10:31 PM

yes ! after I unlocked my XP 1900+ I played arround with the FSB of my MSI KT3 and that PCI/AGP divider was activated.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 26, 2003, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Does this - change to 153 and then more works on KT3 the same way?

Yes, the 1/5 clock divider is activated after a FSB of 152Mhz. That is the change over.

DriveEuro · Jan 27, 2003, 02:03 AM

Can someone close this thread? No need for it. Problem has been solved...bought a new mobo.

ToshiroOC · Jan 27, 2003, 06:08 AM

Well, if someone finds a solution later, best to leave the thread open so they can post the solution for anyone who is searching for the same thing later on...

WyreTheWolf · Jan 27, 2003, 07:54 AM

well, I agree... closing thread... If anyone has the same problem later, another thread can be started.

Jan 11, 2003, 08:48 PM	#1
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Wire trick to change the FSB of a Palamino to 166 So I was poking around VIA Arena forums and I find a person who has a Palamino 2000 running a 166 bus. But he has the same mobo as me and as I know there is no way to change bios settings to get that 166 bus. I am awaiting a response from him to see how he did it. Here's the link http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...15&STARTPAGE=2 He posted half way down the page with a yellow Nuclear icon as his avatar...name is BlueFrogCS I am assuming that he tried this trick but I don't know until he responds to me. Anyone know how he got a 166 bus on a Palamino on a mobo that won't let you change it to 166? Thanks. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 12, 2003, 08:43 AM	Thread Starter #3
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Yes, I know that.... no offense... but that is the exact function I am trying to utilize. I need to make my CPU be 166 bus so that the mobo auto detects it as 166 mhz. And the problem is that the manual is misleading...the 7VAX doesn't have that second jumper at SW1 that forces the 166 bus (don't know if it FORCES it, but it enables it)....the deal is that I want my processor to run a 166 bus as default so I actaully can have a 333 FSB. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 12, 2003, 08:56 AM	Thread Starter #4
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I cannot just simply raise the cpu clock to 166. The mobo auto senses the default CPU clock. Either 100, 133, 166. In my case 133. Because of the 133 speed I can only raise the CPU clock to 165mhz ... The divider is locked per clock stepping (100, 133, 166). Therefore when I overlock the AGP and PCI get way out of spec. I cannot overclock my CPU to 166 on this board and get another divider. The only way is to get the mobo to think that the CPU has a default bus of 166. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 12, 2003, 10:06 PM	Thread Starter #5
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Anyone got a clue? I hate the fact that this motherboard will not allow me to clock above 165. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 13, 2003, 05:03 PM	Thread Starter #7
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, wyre.....If I was a registered user it would help....eh, time to register I guess. edit: HAHHAHAHHAA. I go to the forum and guess who is the newest member....wyrethewolf. hehe edits again: NONONONONOOOOOOOOOO!! These are the threads that I orginated my question from. But if you read closely the trick only works on T-Breds.....why? Cuz Palamino has no L12 bridges. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024 Last edited by DriveEuro; Jan 13, 2003 at 05:08 PM.

Jan 12, 2003, 01:44 AM	#2
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	It looks like your mobo does support 333fsb processors. http://www.giga-byte.com/products/7vax.htm

Jan 13, 2003, 04:25 PM	#6
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	http://www.hard-forum.com/forums/sho...?threadid=3041 maybe that will help you.

Jan 23, 2003, 12:32 PM	#8
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	The following is according to John-Paul over at AMDMB.com: In order to kick the 1/5 divider in, you must change your fsb to 153, save and reboot, go into the bios again and raise it to whatever you want, and the 1/5 will be working, but you must go 153, 1**, in that order or it won't work. Good Luck, John-Paul I hoipe that helps some.

Jan 23, 2003, 12:38 PM	#9
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	another thing that is entirely possible.. is that his 2000+ is a T-Bred

Jan 24, 2003, 10:48 AM	#10
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Does this - change to 153 and then more works on KT3 the same way? __________________ -- Vedran

Jan 26, 2003, 10:31 PM	#11
qwertrewq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	yes ! after I unlocked my XP 1900+ I played arround with the FSB of my MSI KT3 and that PCI/AGP divider was activated.

Jan 27, 2003, 02:03 AM	Thread Starter #13
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Can someone close this thread? No need for it. Problem has been solved...bought a new mobo. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 27, 2003, 06:08 AM	#14
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, if someone finds a solution later, best to leave the thread open so they can post the solution for anyone who is searching for the same thing later on... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 27, 2003, 07:54 AM	#15
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	well, I agree... closing thread... If anyone has the same problem later, another thread can be started.